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Post by soccerstand on 19/12/13, 12:47 pm

RANKHIGH SCHOOLDISTRICT# ECNL's'13 REACH'13 REC'13 GF'13 GA
1Plano West10-5A20Won 5A State28-0-29411
2Denton Guyer11-4A6Won 4A State27-1-010816
3UrsulineTAPPS13Won TAPPS State15-1-24810
4Southlake Carroll4-5A11State Finalist30-3-09815
5Highland Park20-4A9State Finalist25-1-59914
6Frisco Wakeland18-4A14Sectional23-3-210013
7Flower Mound Marcus5-5A9Regional Final23-4-19714
8Byron Nelson11-4A3Regional Final27-3-19219
9McKinney Boyd10-5A10
10Mansfield7-5A9Regional Quarters22-4-08012
11Keller4-5A9Regional Semis19-6-36017
12Grapevine6-5A9Regional Quarters19-5-45817
13Wylie21-4A1Regional Final22-9-19013
14Hebron5-5A7Regional Semis17-4-35911
15Sachse11-5A8Regional Semis16-6-27319
16Frisco High18-4A12
17Flower Mound5-5A12
18Bishop LynchTAPPS6TAPPS Semifinal18-5-19522
19HockadaySPC4SPC Champions9-2-24212
20Allen10-5A7Regional Quarters13-8-23925
21McKinney North17-4A2Sectional18-2-38714
22Lucas Lovejoy21-4A4Regional Quarters12-7-35918
23Midlothian7-5A5
24Frisco Liberty18-4A3Regional Quarters17-6-47926

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Post by soccerstand on 19/12/13, 12:55 pm

Honorable Mentions:  Wylie East (21-4A), 2 ECNL's, (19-6-0 last year), (GF 99 GA 14); Red Oak (28-4A), 2 ECNL's, (15-5-1 last year), (GF 74 GA 18); Arlington Martin (3-5A), 3 ECNL's, (16-10-1 last year), (GF 65 GA 31); Birdville (11-4A), 1 ECNL, (19-9-1 last year), (GF 74 GA 34); Ft. Worth Nolan (TAPPS), 8 ECNL's

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Post by DrSoccer on 20/12/13, 04:55 pm

so plano west can field 2 ecnl teams, Ursuline, Southlake, Wakeland, Boyd, Frisco and FM can field only 1. If I were PW I would petition for an additional spot in the district, they might be 1 and 2.
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Post by powerkeep1 on 21/12/13, 04:50 pm

With a very diluted pool of NTX talent playing ECNL soccer, more than half the PW roster is likely lower level rostered players. A better measuring stick would be how many D1 committed players are on the team. ECNL is a club oriented mirage that allows you to see what they want you to.Take the time to look at published recruiting services to get the real numbers. Average is about 50% will get various scholarships. The full ride scholarships have not increased with the introduction of ECNL.
It does give a player the best possible college looks but in the opinion of many the over exposure can be hurtful to those who do not perform on the field. Recent recruiting trends indicate more Texas state schools are recruiting out of state players to build their programs.

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Post by tornado11 on 21/12/13, 06:25 pm

Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

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Post by Uncle Numanga on 23/12/13, 08:54 am

Heinrich is an idiot. Remember, she hand picked the U17 team that didn't even get out of the qualifying round of the last World Cup.
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Post by Uncle Numanga on 23/12/13, 08:59 am

powerkeep1 wrote:With a very diluted pool of NTX talent playing ECNL soccer, more than half the PW roster is likely lower level rostered players. A better measuring stick would be how many D1 committed players are on the team. ECNL is a club oriented mirage that allows you to see what they want you to.Take the time to look at published recruiting services to get the real numbers. Average is about 50% will get various scholarships. The full ride scholarships have not increased with the introduction of ECNL.
It does give a player the best possible college looks but in the opinion of many the over exposure can be hurtful to those who do not perform on the field. Recent recruiting trends indicate more Texas state schools are recruiting out of state players to build their programs.

Both Texas and A&M have recruited mostly Texas players. SMU and TCU have not. Petrucelli has always recruited California and look how well that has worked out for him.

For true info:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AriynKqmGsRwdGUyR1ZrSFFUbHFZblNCMnBNZnNqc1E&output=html
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Post by DDdad on 23/12/13, 09:07 am

Women's College Rankings from Top Drawer.  There were two lists.  Top 100 players in College excluding Freshman and List of Top 100 Freshman.

Let's remember that the population of the US is 314MM, population of California is 38MM and population of North Texas is 6.5MM.

Of the Top 100 Freshman, the entire State of California had 6 representatives.  North Texas had 5

Of the Top 100 College Players excluding Freshman, all of California had 10 representatives.  North Texas had 9.  

North Texas had 3X as many freshman top players as they should based upon population while California had 1/2.  Overall, NT had 4.5X their share while California was just under.  But between them, those two areas had 19% of the top college players.  

We seem to have more than our fair share of top Club teams in the area and more than our fair share of top College Players from this area.  Someone has to be doing something right somewhere.
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Post by tornado11 on 23/12/13, 12:25 pm

So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??

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Post by John Galt on 23/12/13, 12:45 pm

tornado11 wrote:So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??


Let me take a stab at it using DDdads example above. North Texas is 2% of the US population so in a normal distribution 2 % of 24 players is 0.48 players. Or less than a 50/50 shot of placing one girl on the team.

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Post by tornado11 on 23/12/13, 02:57 pm

John Galt wrote:
tornado11 wrote:So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??


Let me take a stab at it using DDdads example above. North Texas is 2% of the US population so in a normal distribution 2 % of 24 players is 0.48 players. Or less than a 50/50 shot of placing one girl on the team.


Yet it is apparently a 'given' that North Texas elite girls teams are as competitive as any in the nation and win 'national' titles on a regular basis. Their under representation on national teams would seem to point to something being 'not quite right'....

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Post by ballhead on 23/12/13, 03:11 pm

tornado11 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
tornado11 wrote:So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??


Let me take a stab at it using DDdads example above. North Texas is 2% of the US population so in a normal distribution 2 % of 24 players is 0.48 players. Or less than a 50/50 shot of placing one girl on the team.


Yet it is apparently a 'given' that North Texas elite girls teams are as competitive as any in the nation and win 'national' titles on a regular basis. Their under representation on national teams would seem to point to something being 'not quite right'....

Weren't you arranging, or part of: "a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas" that was going to fix all these problems?
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Post by DDdad on 23/12/13, 03:56 pm

tornado11 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
tornado11 wrote:So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??


Let me take a stab at it using DDdads example above. North Texas is 2% of the US population so in a normal distribution 2 % of 24 players is 0.48 players. Or less than a 50/50 shot of placing one girl on the team.


Yet it is apparently a 'given' that North Texas elite girls teams are as competitive as any in the nation and win 'national' titles on a regular basis. Their under representation on national teams would seem to point to something being 'not quite right'....


It appears that there are some selective application of information trying to prove a point that just does not exist. I hate to kill this argument with facts but if we agree that NT should by all rights have .48 players per National team based upon our population,

The U 15 team lists 6 players from North Texas in the Player Pool
U 17 team lists 3 players including the leading scorer playing 2 ages up.
U18 0
U20 Lists 1 player from North Texas
U23 lists 3 players from North Texas.

Thus, in total, from U15 to U23, we have a total of 13 players playing at a National Level. By population, we should have 2.5.

Unfortunately, the facts are that we are VERY well represented at the Club Level, College Level and National Level. I know it's fun to bang on NT soccer not being on par with the rest of the country but the results just don't justify it.
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Post by tornado11 on 23/12/13, 06:28 pm

ballhead wrote:
tornado11 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
tornado11 wrote:So why the dearth of N.Texas players on the U17 national team...??


Let me take a stab at it using DDdads example above. North Texas is 2% of the US population so in a normal distribution 2 % of 24 players is 0.48 players. Or less than a 50/50 shot of placing one girl on the team.


Yet it is apparently a 'given' that North Texas elite girls teams are as competitive as any in the nation and win 'national' titles on a regular basis. Their under representation on national teams would seem to point to something being 'not quite right'....

Weren't you arranging, or part of: "a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas" that was going to fix all these problems?

Yes...and it happened. So sorry you missed it. We went for ten weeks in the fall at a great facility, at no cost and the girls who showed up loved the experience. WE will pick it up again in the early spring.

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Post by Pele98 on 24/12/13, 08:51 am

tornado11 wrote:Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

May be North Texas is not represented but for sure Sting is represented.

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-18-wnt/2013/10/u17-and-u18-wnt-come-together-for-florida-training-camp.aspx
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Post by tornado11 on 24/12/13, 02:53 pm

Pele98 wrote:
tornado11 wrote:Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

May be North Texas is not represented but for sure Sting is represented.

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-18-wnt/2013/10/u17-and-u18-wnt-come-together-for-florida-training-camp.aspx

...by one girl.....

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Post by Guest on 24/12/13, 04:29 pm

tornado11 wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
tornado11 wrote:Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

May be North Texas is not represented but for sure Sting is represented.

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-18-wnt/2013/10/u17-and-u18-wnt-come-together-for-florida-training-camp.aspx

...by one girl.....

Congrats to those ntx players, families and every one who had a hand in developing them along the way.

 cheers 

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Post by Pele98 on 24/12/13, 05:14 pm

tornado11 wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
tornado11 wrote:Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

May be North Texas is not represented but for sure Sting is represented.

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-18-wnt/2013/10/u17-and-u18-wnt-come-together-for-florida-training-camp.aspx

...by one girl.....

That is a big jump from ......"not a single one..."  as claimed above.

BTW, how many do you think will be ideal? 3, 5, 7 or all 24?
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Post by tornado11 on 24/12/13, 07:06 pm

Pele98 wrote:
tornado11 wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
tornado11 wrote:Somewhat related is the recent announcement of the USA under 18 national team player pool coached by April Heindrich .....of 24 players named to the squad not a single one is from North Texas.

May be North Texas is not represented but for sure Sting is represented.

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-18-wnt/2013/10/u17-and-u18-wnt-come-together-for-florida-training-camp.aspx

...by one girl.....

That is a big jump from ......"not a single one..."  as claimed above.

BTW, how many do you think will be ideal? 3, 5, 7 or all 24?

In the latest squad (not the one from a few months ago) there was not a single girl (Sting or otherwise) from North Texas that made the U17 national team squad...the poster who was pushing the Sting player was referencing the squad from the past....not the latest one.

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Post by Flatback4 on 24/12/13, 07:40 pm

What about the U-15 Dallas Texan forward who is on the U-17 national team.

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Post by turftoe9 on 26/12/13, 02:21 pm

Can we get this back to High School Rankings? If you want to talk about the National teams or ECNL start another thread!
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Post by Flatback4 on 26/12/13, 02:34 pm

Good idea. The National Elite Prep College Showcase begins on January 9, 2014 in Fort Worth. Other than Plano West what teams are expected to do well based on the games scheduled? What games are too close to pick?

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Post by tornado11 on 29/12/13, 09:16 pm

Not Highland Park...they aren't in it...

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Post by DrSoccer on 06/01/14, 03:53 pm

Lots of good players on these HS teams both ECNL and LH. Regardless of the results its a fun time for most of these girls to get to play with their school mates.
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