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Post by AKeepersMomma 28/07/14, 09:45 am

We registered to take our U10 rec team academy this fall with UAL in Frisco. Our home association originally told us that we would owe them $10 a player and now they are saying $60. We are not playing both rec and academy. We are just doing academy. I am wondering if this is normal or is our home association confused? THANKS!

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Post by boilerjoe_96 28/07/14, 09:48 am

Normal North Texas money grab....

UAL is cheaper than PSA or SDL(which don't requite the NTX Extortion fee)...so you pay about the same one way or another. Seems odd to pay your local Rec league to NOT play though but it is normal.
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Post by AKeepersMomma 28/07/14, 09:55 am

Just when you think you are out, they drag you back in. aarrggg!

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Post by CoachBones23 28/07/14, 10:41 am

it is standard. I know Denton and GLASA are both $65 unless you play rec as well.

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Post by Guest 28/07/14, 11:14 am

AKeepersMomma wrote:We registered to take our U10 rec team academy this fall with UAL in Frisco.  Our home association originally told us that we would owe them $10 a player and now they are saying $60.  We are not playing both rec and academy. We are just doing academy.  I am wondering if this is normal or is our home association confused?  THANKS!

It's probably $10 on top of the rec registration fee. They want that rec registration fee whether you play or not. It's not right, but it's normal.

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Post by Deuce 28/07/14, 11:30 am

Just did GLASA last week. Academy is free if you're also playing rec through them. $50 if you're only playing academy. Not $65, but still another chunk of change.

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Post by travelin light 28/07/14, 01:34 pm

Cobra_Kai wrote:
AKeepersMomma wrote:We registered to take our U10 rec team academy this fall with UAL in Frisco.  Our home association originally told us that we would owe them $10 a player and now they are saying $60.  We are not playing both rec and academy. We are just doing academy.  I am wondering if this is normal or is our home association confused?  THANKS!

It's probably $10 on top of the rec registration fee. They want that rec registration fee whether you play or not. It's not right, but it's normal.

In McKinney, if a player registers as a rec player first, there is no charge to obtain academy registration for the same season.  If your dd doesn't register as a rec player, the fee is $30 for fall and $30 for spring, or $55 for full year.  In my opinion, this fee (money grab) assists the local soccer associations recover lost revenues from all the academy kids leaving rec for pre-select/academy.
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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 28/07/14, 01:36 pm

boilerjoe_96 wrote:Normal North Texas money grab....

UAL is cheaper than PSA or SDL(which don't requite the NTX Extortion fee)...so you pay about the same one way or another.  Seems odd to pay your local Rec league to NOT play though but it is normal.

Part of the fee covers insurance coverage for your daughter, the rest covers the local associations staff salaries (You didn't think they all volunteered their time to soccer just cause the love working with soccer parents did you?  Wink  ), rent, maintenance, golf carts to drive around the fields, etc... etc...
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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 28/07/14, 01:42 pm

oh, the good news, next here for Lake Highlands, we get to pay $800 for a tournament to qualify for a league then turn around and pay another 900 for the Fall Season plus another $41 per game for the refs... Not to mention you still have to register every kid with North Texas the good news is you can find one Local Association (Nicole James at CFB I hear does a great job!) and register your whole team thru that one registrar at a reduced/negotiated cost! Imagine that...  Shocked 
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Post by AKeepersMomma 28/07/14, 03:05 pm

Wow FriscoSoccer05! I am in the wrong business.  Smile 

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Post by MustangGT 28/07/14, 03:25 pm

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:oh, the good news, next here for Lake Highlands, we get to pay $800 for a tournament to qualify for a league then turn around and pay another 900 for the Fall Season plus another $41 per game for the refs... Not to mention you still have to register every kid with North Texas the good news is you can find one Local Association (Nicole James at CFB I hear does a great job!) and register your whole team thru that one registrar at a reduced/negotiated cost!  Imagine that...   Shocked 

Well at least with all of that money you get to play on World CLASS fields... Laughing 

or at least you would think so!

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Post by FieldofDreams 28/07/14, 04:24 pm

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:oh, the good news, next here for Lake Highlands, we get to pay $800 for a tournament to qualify for a league then turn around and pay another 900 for the Fall Season plus another $41 per game for the refs... Not to mention you still have to register every kid with North Texas the good news is you can find one Local Association (Nicole James at CFB I hear does a great job!) and register your whole team thru that one registrar at a reduced/negotiated cost!  Imagine that...   Shocked 

So, I just came across this thread as I'm "surfing" our '04 news. The $800 LHGCL tournament fee is built into the actual team fees for U-11 Select soccer.. not to panic anyone, but it's not just $900 for a fall season. It's more like ~$2,800 to ~$3,200, depending on the club, for the year and $500 for the uniform "kit". It all has to be paid up front.. .kiddin', most clubs offer payment plans. Good news, it's for 2 seasons and that does include the Referee fees  Smile

Regarding GLASA fees in particular.... I am 99% positive you don't have to pay the $65 to register for your home association, even if you are playing just academy or select. I recall there was one particular tournament our club was not "affiliated" with and the players had to register with their home association. I believe that fee was $10.  

feel free to PM with questions about Select. Having just gone through it and our team making D1, lot of fresh information to be had, if you'd like.


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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 28/07/14, 05:16 pm

FieldofDreams wrote:
FriscoSoccer05 wrote:oh, the good news, next here for Lake Highlands, we get to pay $800 for a tournament to qualify for a league then turn around and pay another 900 for the Fall Season plus another $41 per game for the refs... Not to mention you still have to register every kid with North Texas the good news is you can find one Local Association (Nicole James at CFB I hear does a great job!) and register your whole team thru that one registrar at a reduced/negotiated cost!  Imagine that...   Shocked 

So, I just came across this thread as I'm "surfing" our '04 news. The $800 LHGCL tournament fee is built into the actual team fees for U-11 Select soccer.. not to panic anyone, but it's not just $900 for a fall season.  It's more like ~$2,800 to  ~$3,200, depending on the club, for the year and $500 for the uniform "kit".  It all has to be paid up front.. .kiddin', most clubs offer payment plans.  Good news, it's for 2 seasons and that does include the Referee fees  Smile

Regarding GLASA fees in particular.... I am 99% positive you don't have to pay the $65 to register for your home association, even if you are playing just academy or select.  I recall there was one particular tournament our club was not "affiliated" with and the players had to register with their home association.  I believe that fee was $10.  

feel free to PM with questions about Select. Having just gone through it and our team making D1, lot of fresh information to be had, if you'd like.


Yes correct all of these league, QT and NTX registration fees are baked into the select fees you pay.

Thanks for clarifying if that wasn't clear.
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Post by enyap 18/08/14, 03:18 pm

Lake Highlands (home association) also makes you pay $90 per season for your academy form. The same cost as rec league. No discount at all, even though you aren't using the fields, refs, offices, scheduling, etc. I am beginning to hate that association. Part of the reason for going the academy route was because of how inept they are at scheduling and handling a season. Now I'm paying for that BS still.

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Post by coachdom23 18/08/14, 03:40 pm

This is one reason teams play PrimeTime and SDL, because they are sanctioned through US Club Soccer, so the fee is $14 per player for the year.
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Post by soccersounder 18/08/14, 04:40 pm

enyap wrote:Lake Highlands (home association) also makes you pay $90 per season for your academy form. The same cost as rec league. No discount at all, even though you aren't using the fields, refs, offices, scheduling, etc. I am beginning to hate that association. Part of the reason for going the academy route was because of how inept they are at scheduling and handling a season. Now I'm paying for that BS still.

North Texas is trying to protect their REC Associations, by making sure they still get their money for each player. It is a North Texas Policy. Just consider it a lil Socialism in your great red stare. Very Happy 

A few corrections however:

-Ref fees are never included in any League. So that does not apply
-Why would you ever use an Office??
-Why would your REC Association do scheduling for you?
-As for fields, These fees (over $1000 per team) will get you practice fields, if you ask (When registering as a Select Team). Most of the big clubs do not ask and instead, do their own thing



I know your point is that it seems as if they are getting money for nothing, but without that money, many of the REC Associations would be in trouble. I have no problem supporting REC Soccer with part of my Select Fee. In fact, it almost makes a Blue Stater like myself, smile  Very Happy
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Post by 05girls 18/08/14, 05:06 pm

Isn't this kind of like swinging by Burger King and giving them a $5 bill one minute after I bought a Big Mac from mcdonalds?

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Post by enyap 18/08/14, 06:00 pm

By office, I meant all league staff in general, not an actual office – everything associated with putting on a season (I guess scheduling should have been lumped in there too. Somebody with the league does it, certainly not me).

I understand these leagues are losing money by having kids go elsewhere, and I agree I should have to pay something for the services they are providing me. However, charging 100% whether the kid plays or not is a bit much when no other services are being used. Paying even half the fee would be much more acceptable.

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Post by ONLYASOCCERDAD 18/08/14, 06:41 pm

FieldofDreams wrote:
FriscoSoccer05 wrote:oh, the good news, next here for Lake Highlands, we get to pay $800 for a tournament to qualify for a league then turn around and pay another 900 for the Fall Season plus another $41 per game for the refs... Not to mention you still have to register every kid with North Texas the good news is you can find one Local Association (Nicole James at CFB I hear does a great job!) and register your whole team thru that one registrar at a reduced/negotiated cost!  Imagine that...   Shocked 

So, I just came across this thread as I'm "surfing" our '04 news. The $800 LHGCL tournament fee is built into the actual team fees for U-11 Select soccer.. not to panic anyone, but it's not just $900 for a fall season.  It's more like ~$2,800 to  ~$3,200, depending on the club, for the year and $500 for the uniform "kit".  It all has to be paid up front.. .kiddin', most clubs offer payment plans.  Good news, it's for 2 seasons and that does include the Referee fees  Smile

Regarding GLASA fees in particular.... I am 99% positive you don't have to pay the $65 to register for your home association, even if you are playing just academy or select.  I recall there was one particular tournament our club was not "affiliated" with and the players had to register with their home association.  I believe that fee was $10.  

feel free to PM with questions about Select. Having just gone through it and our team making D1, lot of fresh information to be had, if you'd like.


not only do you have to pay your home association the fee's, they can control which days you practice and play your academy games silly Smile don't piss them off lol

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Post by ZzzKing 18/08/14, 08:11 pm

05girls wrote:Isn't this kind of like swinging by Burger King and giving them a $5 bill one minute after I bought a Big Mac from mcdonalds?

Yes, yes it is.

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Post by SEAOTTER 19/08/14, 03:31 pm

The registration fee amount is getting out of hand. Depending on where you live you can register your DD for as low as 20.00 and as high as 85.00. They are taking advantage of the leverage they have over academy players parents.
example:
If I pay the 80.00 to register my child as an academy player, it cost the rec league how ever long it takes to register a kid for academy online.
If I pay the same 80.00 and my DD plays rec. it will cost the rec association money for field usage, refs, a jersey and what ever administration cost to run the league.
Looks to be more of a profitable venture to have tons of academy kids from your association. Don't get me wrong, I do think there should be a fee for registering your child but some of these prices are to much.

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Post by SEAOTTER 19/08/14, 03:38 pm

soccersounder wrote:
enyap wrote:Lake Highlands (home association) also makes you pay $90 per season for your academy form. The same cost as rec league. No discount at all, even though you aren't using the fields, refs, offices, scheduling, etc. I am beginning to hate that association. Part of the reason for going the academy route was because of how inept they are at scheduling and handling a season. Now I'm paying for that BS still.

North Texas is trying to protect their REC Associations, by making sure they still get their money for each player. It is a North Texas Policy. Just consider it a lil Socialism in your great red stare. Very Happy 

A few corrections however:

-Ref fees are never included in any League. So that does not apply
-Why would you ever use an Office??
-Why would your REC Association do scheduling for you?
-As for fields, These fees (over $1000 per team) will get you practice fields, if you ask (When registering as a Select Team). Most of the big clubs do not ask and instead, do their own thing



I know your point is that it seems as if they are getting money for nothing, but without that money, many of the REC Associations would be in trouble. I have no problem supporting REC Soccer with part of my Select Fee. In fact, it almost makes a Blue Stater like myself, smile  Very Happy

If north Texas really wanted to protect its rec leagues It should have stood its ground when it comes to allowing kids to play in multiple academy games a weekend. At one time it wouldn't allow kids to play in more than one game a weekend. They instead caved to the pressure of the coaches. North Texas and US club only care about the money they can bring in and it doesn't care at what cost to the kids health. You cant let the inmates run the asylum.

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Post by travelin light 19/08/14, 03:50 pm

To avoid paying the academy registration fee, we simply registered our dd with local recreational soccer association.  She'll play rec on Saturdays and academy games on Sundays.  The player gets some extra touches in a fun environment with minimal pressure, and the parents don't feel like we're getting completely ripped off.  If more people did this, there would be a lot less dual rostering between academy teams.
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Post by boilerjoe_96 19/08/14, 04:04 pm

The one girl on our team that does that exact thing...seems to develop some bad habits from playing rec. Not saying all would, but it has taken our coach a long time to break bad rec habits just to have them all start doing them again.

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Post by coachdom23 19/08/14, 04:19 pm

SEAOTTER wrote:
soccersounder wrote:
enyap wrote:Lake Highlands (home association) also makes you pay $90 per season for your academy form. The same cost as rec league. No discount at all, even though you aren't using the fields, refs, offices, scheduling, etc. I am beginning to hate that association. Part of the reason for going the academy route was because of how inept they are at scheduling and handling a season. Now I'm paying for that BS still.

North Texas is trying to protect their REC Associations, by making sure they still get their money for each player. It is a North Texas Policy. Just consider it a lil Socialism in your great red stare. :D 

A few corrections however:

-Ref fees are never included in any League. So that does not apply
-Why would you ever use an Office??
-Why would your REC Association do scheduling for you?
-As for fields, These fees (over $1000 per team) will get you practice fields, if you ask (When registering as a Select Team). Most of the big clubs do not ask and instead, do their own thing



I know your point is that it seems as if they are getting money for nothing, but without that money, many of the REC Associations would be in trouble. I have no problem supporting REC Soccer with part of my Select Fee. In fact, it almost makes a Blue Stater like myself, smile  :D

If north Texas really wanted to protect its rec leagues It should have stood its ground when it comes to allowing kids to play in multiple academy games a weekend. At one time it wouldn't allow kids to play in more than one game a weekend. They instead caved to the pressure of the coaches. North Texas and US club only care about the money they can bring in and it doesn't care at what cost to the kids health. You cant let the inmates run the asylum.

There are options because the parents (customers) want them.  20 years ago, a U7-U10 player practiced on Tuesday & Thursday nights and played an outdoor rec association game on Saturday.  

Now, a U7-U10 player can have rec league games, multiple academy league games, indoor games, futsal games, position-specific personal training, and speed/agility training ALL IN THE SAME WEEK.  More and more parents want these varied opportunities or they would not exist in the marketplace.  Parents have to decide when enough is enough.
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