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Post by Guest on 21/10/14, 10:36 pm

kick_tha_ball wrote:D3 coach is pressured to win so he borrows 2-3 girls from D1 team. What does he tell the 2-3 girls and their parents that have to sit out that week, "We'll need you at some point, your still an important part of this team". Don't worry about their feelings.
What does he tell the girls and their parents, "Thank you for your payment".

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Post by SolarPower00 on 22/10/14, 12:58 am

HeadHaunter wrote:
Bobcat wrote:I think you make up way more than you "know".  Everyone knows who the CPP players are, and why they are playing, and playing time.  Your DD might be different than most, but you are definitely in the minority on your thoughts of how CPP is used.

 that's fine, maybe I am in the minority

You are... Quit haunting our heads with this Pro-CPP propaganda!
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Post by kick_tha_ball on 22/10/14, 01:08 am

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Bobcat wrote:I think you make up way more than you "know".  Everyone knows who the CPP players are, and why they are playing, and playing time.  Your DD might be different than most, but you are definitely in the minority on your thoughts of how CPP is used.

The minority appears to be only those that actually post on this forum cause most of the folks I've talked to have no problem with it or don't care either way...  the ones that seem pissed about it's use are the small clubs that can't use it or the clubs where the coach refuses to use it stating exactly what I keep seeing posted on this forum - you sign X amount of players and that's who you should play - really?  That's narrow minded thinking on growth of ALL players big and small.  If you can use it, use it in either direction.  If your club doesn't use it in both directions then you probably need a new club.  If your club can't use it and you love the idea of it, then you need a new club.  If you could care less, then you're right where you need to be.  I still think the love/hate relationship with the CPP is all about the parents.  Moreover, the parents, coaches and clubs.  If you don't like it cause you don't think your coach is utilizing it to its full capabilities, then talk to the coach about your concerns.  If he gives you the ol' play with who you signed B.S. then it's possible he doesn't have a good relationship with other coaches within the club where they can swap players.  It can be as much a negative for teams that don't play nice within their own clubs as it is a positive for teams that have great relationships within the club.  It all depends on your club and definitely about your coach as to whether you're team is taking advantage of the CPP or not - regardless of HOW it's used within the club.  Just the opportunity to actually use it.  I can say not all big clubs are utilizing it and certainly not the majority of larger clubs.  TXS and D'Feeters (formerly LFS) are small clubs compared to Dallas Texans, Liverpool, FC Dallas or Sting when you take into consideration the number of 04 teams.  However, only Liverpool, D'Feeters and TXS has two teams under one coach in the 04s (well LP just nixed that as well but they did have two teams under one coach).  This makes it easier to utilize players between teams whereas the other teams have to "play nice" within the club to utilize such players across teams - that just doesn't happen and those kids are being shorted the learning opportunity in my opinion.  But you can't tell all parents that cause they are just too damn competitive with U11 - U13 soccer when it should be about just getting better from a "player" perspective.  I don't expect the CPP haters to understand my perspective, and that's fine, maybe I am in the minority but I'm definitely OK with that if my kiddo is getting what she needs from it.

It almost sounds like your saying that all the clubs with multiple teams should tell all their kids to meet up at UTD every Saturday and whatever time. Then the coaches can just look over the group and pick the 14 girls they want that day. The team you signed with doesn't matter.
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Post by adufresne on 22/10/14, 01:12 am

This is all really much ado about nothing. What is really the big deal about CPP? If you want to pinpoint the game that brought on this whole debate, Sting West is a D1 team masquerading as a D3 team anyway. So they lost to a team that used "guest players." So what? It ain't the first time and it won't be the last. They'll still be in D2 next year. If coaches want to use CPP, use it. It's legal. I'm sure there's a valid explanation either way. Bottom line is that it's none of anybody's business what another club does or doesn't do. Look across your sideline. If you don't like what you see, start looking around. There are 15-20 clubs out there and 80+ teams. I'm sure you can find something you approve of. Otherwise, just say congrats and move on.

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Post by kick_tha_ball on 22/10/14, 06:13 am

DEAD HORSE!!! A small few like it for whatever reason and most think it's a being exploited. Neither side of this "DEBATE" is gonna change their perspective. Let's move on to Week 9.
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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL on 22/10/14, 06:47 am

SolarPower00 wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:
Bobcat wrote:I think you make up way more than you "know".  Everyone knows who the CPP players are, and why they are playing, and playing time.  Your DD might be different than most, but you are definitely in the minority on your thoughts of how CPP is used.

 that's fine, maybe I am in the minority

You are... Quit haunting our heads with this Pro-CPP propaganda!

cheers lol!
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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL on 24/10/14, 09:50 am

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HeadHaunter wrote:So it sounds to me like everyone is assuming the girls that didn't play in the DIII game didn't play at all and had to sit... it's my understanding those girls played up into the DI team so they didn't miss any playing time...  They were starters on the DIII team so they were replaced with starters from the DI team, but like I always say, you can know one person from one team and hear things the way they see 'em then you can talk to others that are on the outside and hear the way they see things...  it always seems to be two completely different stories...  it's my understanding that no one lost playing time they merely played up while other played down.  I can't confirm this as I was not there but talking to folks it's funny how you get two completely different perspectives especially when you talk to those who weren't even involved in the game itself...  It seems like everyone always knows more about what's going on then what's ACTUALLY going on...  but I do like this debate to see who really knows what they are talking about instead of insinuating what they believe to be true.

Sounds like your describing yourself when talking about those "In. The Know". And we all know this little scenario about how CUP was used didn't go down the way you say it did. If you signed 14-16 girls, go play with those girls. Let the chips fall where the may.

One last note to contend with the speculation machine (then the horse soup we've created will end) - the CPP WAS actually used in the way I said it did... two DIII players played in each of the three games that DI players were used to play on the DIII team. So it did go down the way it was told to me. The two DIII players for each game were different players each time as were the players that played in DIII from DI. Not the same players were used in any one of those scenarios. SO, just goes to show that some folks really DON'T know what they're talking about and CPP was used exactly as it was intended... but adufresne had it right all along, who cares what another team does or doesn't do - you don't play for them anyways. However, I am just trying to defend the CPP and this was a classic case of it's use and how it's misconstrued by speculation and rumor. Can I prove it? Not on this forum but I did see the rosters for those games and they showed CPP players for both teams. Apparently the age commissioner doesn't collect the game cards at this age group?
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Post by kick_tha_ball on 24/10/14, 10:08 am

HeadHaunter wrote:
kick_tha_ball wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:So it sounds to me like everyone is assuming the girls that didn't play in the DIII game didn't play at all and had to sit... it's my understanding those girls played up into the DI team so they didn't miss any playing time...  They were starters on the DIII team so they were replaced with starters from the DI team, but like I always say, you can know one person from one team and hear things the way they see 'em then you can talk to others that are on the outside and hear the way they see things...  it always seems to be two completely different stories...  it's my understanding that no one lost playing time they merely played up while other played down.  I can't confirm this as I was not there but talking to folks it's funny how you get two completely different perspectives especially when you talk to those who weren't even involved in the game itself...  It seems like everyone always knows more about what's going on then what's ACTUALLY going on...  but I do like this debate to see who really knows what they are talking about instead of insinuating what they believe to be true.

Sounds like your describing yourself when talking about those "In. The Know". And we all know this little scenario about how CUP was used didn't go down the way you say it did. If you signed 14-16 girls, go play with those girls. Let the chips fall where the may.

One last note to contend with the speculation machine (then the horse soup we've created will end) - the CPP WAS actually used in the way I said it did...  two DIII players played in each of the three games that DI players were used to play on the DIII team.  So it did go down the way it was told to me.  The two DIII players for each game were different players each time as were the players that played in DIII from DI.  Not the same players were used in any one of those scenarios.  SO, just goes to show that some folks really DON'T know what they're talking about and CPP was used exactly as it was intended...  but adufresne had it right all along, who cares what another team does or doesn't do - you don't play for them anyways.  However, I am just trying to defend the CPP and this was a classic case of it's use and how it's misconstrued by speculation and rumor.  Can I prove it?  Not on this forum but I did see the rosters for those games and they showed CPP players for both teams.  Apparently the age commissioner doesn't collect the game cards at this age group?  

Still serving up that filet mignon on that trashcan lid.
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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL on 24/10/14, 10:25 am

kick_tha_ball wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:
kick_tha_ball wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:So it sounds to me like everyone is assuming the girls that didn't play in the DIII game didn't play at all and had to sit... it's my understanding those girls played up into the DI team so they didn't miss any playing time...  They were starters on the DIII team so they were replaced with starters from the DI team, but like I always say, you can know one person from one team and hear things the way they see 'em then you can talk to others that are on the outside and hear the way they see things...  it always seems to be two completely different stories...  it's my understanding that no one lost playing time they merely played up while other played down.  I can't confirm this as I was not there but talking to folks it's funny how you get two completely different perspectives especially when you talk to those who weren't even involved in the game itself...  It seems like everyone always knows more about what's going on then what's ACTUALLY going on...  but I do like this debate to see who really knows what they are talking about instead of insinuating what they believe to be true.

Sounds like your describing yourself when talking about those "In. The Know". And we all know this little scenario about how CUP was used didn't go down the way you say it did. If you signed 14-16 girls, go play with those girls. Let the chips fall where the may.

One last note to contend with the speculation machine (then the horse soup we've created will end) - the CPP WAS actually used in the way I said it did...  two DIII players played in each of the three games that DI players were used to play on the DIII team.  So it did go down the way it was told to me.  The two DIII players for each game were different players each time as were the players that played in DIII from DI.  Not the same players were used in any one of those scenarios.  SO, just goes to show that some folks really DON'T know what they're talking about and CPP was used exactly as it was intended...  but adufresne had it right all along, who cares what another team does or doesn't do - you don't play for them anyways.  However, I am just trying to defend the CPP and this was a classic case of it's use and how it's misconstrued by speculation and rumor.  Can I prove it?  Not on this forum but I did see the rosters for those games and they showed CPP players for both teams.  Apparently the age commissioner doesn't collect the game cards at this age group?  

Still serving up that filet mignon on that trashcan lid.

You're familiar with that anecdote eh? confused
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Post by kick_tha_ball on 24/10/14, 10:40 am

HeadHaunter wrote:
kick_tha_ball wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:
kick_tha_ball wrote:
HeadHaunter wrote:So it sounds to me like everyone is assuming the girls that didn't play in the DIII game didn't play at all and had to sit... it's my understanding those girls played up into the DI team so they didn't miss any playing time...  They were starters on the DIII team so they were replaced with starters from the DI team, but like I always say, you can know one person from one team and hear things the way they see 'em then you can talk to others that are on the outside and hear the way they see things...  it always seems to be two completely different stories...  it's my understanding that no one lost playing time they merely played up while other played down.  I can't confirm this as I was not there but talking to folks it's funny how you get two completely different perspectives especially when you talk to those who weren't even involved in the game itself...  It seems like everyone always knows more about what's going on then what's ACTUALLY going on...  but I do like this debate to see who really knows what they are talking about instead of insinuating what they believe to be true.

Sounds like your describing yourself when talking about those "In. The Know". And we all know this little scenario about how CUP was used didn't go down the way you say it did. If you signed 14-16 girls, go play with those girls. Let the chips fall where the may.

One last note to contend with the speculation machine (then the horse soup we've created will end) - the CPP WAS actually used in the way I said it did...  two DIII players played in each of the three games that DI players were used to play on the DIII team.  So it did go down the way it was told to me.  The two DIII players for each game were different players each time as were the players that played in DIII from DI.  Not the same players were used in any one of those scenarios.  SO, just goes to show that some folks really DON'T know what they're talking about and CPP was used exactly as it was intended...  but adufresne had it right all along, who cares what another team does or doesn't do - you don't play for them anyways.  However, I am just trying to defend the CPP and this was a classic case of it's use and how it's misconstrued by speculation and rumor.  Can I prove it?  Not on this forum but I did see the rosters for those games and they showed CPP players for both teams.  Apparently the age commissioner doesn't collect the game cards at this age group?  

Still serving up that filet mignon on that trashcan lid.

You're familiar with that anecdote eh?  confused

Nope, just know a load when I smell it. Or maybe its the dead horse? Let's move on. WEEK 9!!!
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