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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/07/15, 11:42 am

Do teams get points or do the teams rankings change as a result of how they did in the LHQT?

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Post by SantaFe on 28/07/15, 12:13 pm

Not sure what you're asking. Are you asking about Round 1 vs. Round 2? (answer would be no, the slots are set before the tourney begins, as I found out courtesy of SWGSB52 a couple days ago.)

If you're asking about Got Soccer rankings, I think the answer is "yes" just like in any other tourney.

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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/07/15, 12:15 pm

I was asking about Got Soccer rankings. Thank you for the info SantaFe

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Post by SantaFe on 28/07/15, 12:25 pm

You know, I may be wrong (though I don't see why they wouldnt).

I went back to a couple teams from last year that played in round 2 and dont see the points listed, though they do have the games.
since it is still within the last 12 mos., not sure why we wouldnt see the points.

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Post by Guest on 28/07/15, 12:30 pm

No GotSoccer pts for LH QT. My daughter's team beat teams between 30-55 spots in front of us within NTX rankings. Got nothing for it.

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Post by SantaFe on 28/07/15, 12:41 pm

So the one tournament where you don't get any guest players and where you know each team is playing their guts out and you try to have your whole team there- they don't figure that into rankings.

makes sense! Smile

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 28/07/15, 12:51 pm

Well I know a few teams with player from 03 teams that soon after will go back to there 03 teams

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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/07/15, 01:07 pm

My daughters team has made it to the 2nd weekend and I can assure you we have no one on our roster for QT that will not be on our regular season roster. And it is garbage that teams get to play with players that will not ever be on their team and only used to help them qualify.

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 28/07/15, 01:15 pm

Yep

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Post by Crazy4soccer on 28/07/15, 01:19 pm

It states, in the rules, that players on your roster, during QT, have to be on your roster when you start league play. If teams are doing this, they should be disqualified.

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 28/07/15, 01:21 pm

Yep they should

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Post by Guest on 28/07/15, 01:22 pm

Correction, we did something for it. We got into LH. Most of the teams in the QT this year are still ranked in front of us, according to GotSoccer. I prefer this site. If you beat someone ranked in front of you, you'll credit for it, if you lose to or tie with someone ranked behind you, your ranking will drop accordingly. GotSoccer will occasionally award someone thousands of pts for beating very,very weak teams. By thousands I mean 3000, 4000, 5000 pts for beating teams that don't even have a thousand pts. GotSoccer is pretty much a piece of junk. This one's better

http://youthsoccerrankings.us/


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Post by Adrenalinetx on 28/07/15, 01:27 pm

some lake highland teams don't do as many tournament as maybe plano teams and that's why you see higher ranking...... Some teams are also built for tournament do well but do bad in season play. Crazy but true

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Post by dadof3 on 28/07/15, 01:28 pm

OLJW wrote:Correction, we did something for it.  We got into LH.  Most of the teams in the QT this year are still ranked in front of us, according to GotSoccer.  I prefer this site. If you beat someone ranked in front of you, you'll credit for it, if you lose to or tie with someone ranked behind you, your ranking will drop accordingly.  GotSoccer will occasionally award someone thousands of pts for beating very,very weak teams. By thousands I mean 3000, 4000, 5000 pts for beating teams that don't even have a thousand pts.  GotSoccer is pretty much a piece of junk. This one's better

http://youthsoccerrankings.us/

I completely agree...especially as your dd gets older, this one is better...and to find relative strength of teams across state lines it is FAR superior.
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Post by Seven on 28/07/15, 01:44 pm

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OLJW wrote:Correction, we did something for it.  We got into LH.  Most of the teams in the QT this year are still ranked in front of us, according to GotSoccer.  I prefer this site. If you beat someone ranked in front of you, you'll credit for it, if you lose to or tie with someone ranked behind you, your ranking will drop accordingly.  GotSoccer will occasionally award someone thousands of pts for beating very,very weak teams. By thousands I mean 3000, 4000, 5000 pts for beating teams that don't even have a thousand pts.  GotSoccer is pretty much a piece of junk. This one's better

http://youthsoccerrankings.us/

I completely agree...especially as your dd gets older, this one is better...and to find relative strength of teams across state lines it is FAR superior.


Agreed....much better rankings here
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Post by Crazy4soccer on 28/07/15, 05:44 pm

Adrenalinetx wrote:Well I know a few teams with player from 03 teams that soon after will go back to there 03 teams

Just looked up the rule and it's as follows:

NOTE: The spirit of this rule will be followed. Coaches found guilty of intentional manipulation of this rule for purposes of retaining their Bye will be dealt with severely, up to and including suspension from LHGCL for no less than 1 year.
j) NO GUEST PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED. Any players that are deleted between the Qualifying Tournament and the first game of the season will be investigated to insure that the player was not playing with the team as a guest player simply to enhance the team’s possibilities of qualifying for the league. Violations of this rule will result in the team being disqualified from participation in the LHGCL for that soccer year. A report of such activities will be submitted to the North Texas Soccer Youth Commissioner for further action.

Teams doing this should be DQed, if LH is going to follow their own rules. Doubtful this will happen, seem to turn a blind eye to these sorts of infractions

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Post by Guest on 28/07/15, 11:07 pm

Crazy4soccer wrote:
Adrenalinetx wrote:Well I know a few teams with player from 03 teams that soon after will go back to there 03 teams

Just looked up the rule and it's as follows:

NOTE: The spirit of this rule will be followed. Coaches found guilty of intentional manipulation of this rule for purposes of retaining their Bye will be dealt with severely, up to and including suspension from LHGCL for no less than 1 year.
j) NO GUEST PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED. Any players that are deleted between the Qualifying Tournament and the first game of the season will be investigated to insure that the player was not playing with the team as a guest player simply to enhance the team’s possibilities of qualifying for the league. Violations of this rule will result in the team being disqualified from participation in the LHGCL for that soccer year. A report of such activities will be submitted to the North Texas Soccer Youth Commissioner for further action.

Teams doing this should be DQed, if LH is going to follow their own rules.  Doubtful this will happen, seem to turn a blind eye to these sorts of infractions

So, just to throw a hypothetical out there...  Let's say that the '03 officially signed with the '02 team and is on the '02 teams' official NTSSA roster, plays with the team in the QT and they get in to LHGCL.  Then once the season starts, the '03 player remains on the '02 roster, but is CPP'd back to her '03 team for every game during the fall season (totally legal per LHGCL rules).  Then, during the Dec.-Jan. window after the fall season, the '03 is officially transferred back to the '03 NTSSA roster (also totally leagal per LHGCL rules).

Can and/or Will LHGCL sanction the club/'02 coach/'02 team for violating the "spirit" of the "No Guest Players in QT" rule if the club/coach/team used other LHGCL rules to help them violate the "spirit" of the first rule??? scratch scratch scratch Suspect Suspect Suspect

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 28/07/15, 11:15 pm

or maybe after a few games in

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Post by Wall Ball on 29/07/15, 07:48 am

bwgophers wrote:
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Adrenalinetx wrote:Well I know a few teams with player from 03 teams that soon after will go back to there 03 teams

Just looked up the rule and it's as follows:

NOTE: The spirit of this rule will be followed. Coaches found guilty of intentional manipulation of this rule for purposes of retaining their Bye will be dealt with severely, up to and including suspension from LHGCL for no less than 1 year.
j) NO GUEST PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED. Any players that are deleted between the Qualifying Tournament and the first game of the season will be investigated to insure that the player was not playing with the team as a guest player simply to enhance the team’s possibilities of qualifying for the league. Violations of this rule will result in the team being disqualified from participation in the LHGCL for that soccer year. A report of such activities will be submitted to the North Texas Soccer Youth Commissioner for further action.

Teams doing this should be DQed, if LH is going to follow their own rules.  Doubtful this will happen, seem to turn a blind eye to these sorts of infractions

So, just to throw a hypothetical out there...  Let's say that the '03 officially signed with the '02 team and is on the '02 teams' official NTSSA roster, plays with the team in the QT and they get in to LHGCL.  Then once the season starts, the '03 player remains on the '02 roster, but is CPP'd back to her '03 team for every game during the fall season (totally legal per LHGCL rules).  Then, during the Dec.-Jan. window after the fall season, the '03 is officially transferred back to the '03 NTSSA roster (also totally leagal per LHGCL rules).

Can and/or Will LHGCL sanction the club/'02 coach/'02 team for violating the "spirit" of the "No Guest Players in QT" rule if the club/coach/team used other LHGCL rules to help them violate the "spirit" of the first rule??? scratch scratch scratch Suspect Suspect Suspect
I'm guessing that's a rhetorical question BW because I think we know the answer to that.
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Post by SantaFe on 04/08/15, 11:35 am

Looks like LHGCL QT results are being added after all. Still pending award of 2nd round results.

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