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Post by CABJ Riquelme_10 23/08/15, 04:39 pm

Any input on the ECNL friendlies this weekend

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Post by SD69 23/08/15, 04:58 pm

Not near enough parking on Saturday.
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Post by Big Poppy 24/08/15, 09:04 am

Sunday game at 4:00 PM was almost unbearable.  Just to hot to really put together sustained minutes of good soccer.  Saw a lot of 01 teams playing 99 and 00 teams.

Solar ECNL won both games against Sting 99's and Sting 00's.  Not sure of the designation (team/coach) for each.

Heard FCD 01 ECNL lost to Solar Elite 00's 2-1.  Would've really liked to watch that game.


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Post by Havingfunyet 24/08/15, 09:13 am

The dfeeter 02 team looked very good! Seemed to be able to finish with style and very athletic! Really fun to watch them play.

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Post by Vikarius_lee 24/08/15, 10:19 am

FC Dallas ECNL 2000 beat Solar Elite 2000 by a score of 1-0.
It was a great match to watch. No quarter was asked. None given.
Both teams made fantastic plays , all day long.
It was the best game of the entire weekend.
A real treat to watch.
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Post by Guess Who 24/08/15, 10:41 am

I wouldn't give a lot of insight to the 02 friendly's. They played up against 01's but the teams where sub par. So feet might of look good, but wouldn't take a lot from it.
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Post by Big Poppy 24/08/15, 11:03 am

Guess Who wrote:I wouldn't give a lot of insight to the 02 friendly's. They played up against 01's but the teams where sub par. So feet might of look good, but wouldn't take a lot from it.

I agree with that....from an "Overall" perspective. This was the second time I've attended these friendlies and I don't think you can glean much from the event. At the end of the day...your team got to play two games and got some conditioning and heat acclimation training. Younger..... more talented teams play older.....less talented teams and the results are consistent across the board. Actually, an ECNL team playing against an older, less talented D1 team may give you a false sense of accomplishment and lead to a level of security that is not warranted.

I will say the event is well organized, fields were in good shape and the officiating was good. All-in-all...take it for what it is....a tune up that allows you to play different formations, players in different positions and work on your basic fundamentals (passing, positioning, shooting, etc.).
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Post by Grifter 24/08/15, 01:14 pm

BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts. Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

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Post by Sweeper 24/08/15, 01:20 pm

Havingfunyet wrote:The dfeeter 02 team looked very good!  Seemed to be able to finish with style and very athletic!  Really fun to watch them play.

Who did they play?
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Post by Big Poppy 24/08/15, 01:22 pm

Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

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So much analysis....so little time to give a #%@ about it!
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Post by Guest 25/08/15, 09:54 am

Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.


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Post by Zizou 25/08/15, 10:46 am

Say that again three times quickly!

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Zizou wrote:Say that again three times quickly!


I would, but I don't speak any better than I write. LOL.

All in fun man, all in fun.

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Post by Vikarius_lee 25/08/15, 12:51 pm

I believe it's the most competitive league.
Playing with and against the better players helps.
Plus more exposure to collegiate coaches is a bonus.
I don't Believe it's a meaningless organization. If the players are good enough, everything will settle out as it should.
Time will tell.
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Post by Grifter 25/08/15, 12:55 pm

Like taking candy from a baby...

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Post by Vikarius_lee 25/08/15, 01:33 pm

My player is worth the investment.
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Post by Lefty 25/08/15, 01:46 pm

Vikarius_lee wrote:My player is worth the investment expense.

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Post by Guest 25/08/15, 02:06 pm

4-3-3 wrote:
Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.

I learned that an athletic scholarship to Stanford is far inferior to need-based aid at Princeton. I really feel sorry for all of those dumb jocks who have to slum it out at Stanford. Sad

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Post by Grifter 25/08/15, 02:58 pm

4-3-3 wrote:
Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.


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Post by AmazonDad 25/08/15, 04:29 pm

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4-3-3 wrote:
Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.

I learned that an athletic scholarship to Stanford is far inferior to need-based aid at Princeton.  I really feel sorry for all of those dumb jocks who have to slum it out at Stanford. Sad
My older son is at Stanford.  I found it funny during a welcome speech by the President, when he referred to a number of Ivys including Princeton as "safety schools". Very Happy
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Post by Guest 25/08/15, 04:37 pm

AmazonDad wrote:
CUZete90 wrote:
4-3-3 wrote:
Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.

I learned that an athletic scholarship to Stanford is far inferior to need-based aid at Princeton.  I really feel sorry for all of those dumb jocks who have to slum it out at Stanford. Sad
My older son is at Stanford.  I found it funny during a welcome speech by the President, when he referred to a number of Ivys including Princeton as "safety schools". Very Happy

22 months without a post, and all it took was a pot-shot at Stanford to bring you out of hibernation???

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Post by AmazonDad 25/08/15, 04:43 pm

bwgophers wrote:
AmazonDad wrote:
CUZete90 wrote:
4-3-3 wrote:
Grifter wrote:BigPoppy, thanks for this thread on last weekend's "warm" up, but in case you live in an ECNL dungeon you should know that ECNL is a waste of time with mediocre coaching and no meaningful impact on woman's soccer.

You can learn a lot from this board... many very analytical people here breaking down the numbers and facts.  Analysis paralysis.

Glad you enjoyed a another meaningless weekend of ECNL soccer.

Grifter

What you meant to say you learned...

You learned all "elite" players in the country play ecnl, and any player not in ecnl is not "elite".

You learned that when ecnl teams shed the back end of their roster every year, and replace formerly "elite" players, with formerly non-elite players, the new players become "elite" once they don the patch, and the jettisoned, formerly "elite" players are relegated to status of mere mortal.

You learned 92.666% of ecnl players get full ride scholarships to the top 25 academic powerhouse soccer schools in the country. The other remaining few didn't want or need scholarships. They played ecnl for the love of the game.

You learned ecnl is the greatest collection of female players on planet earth. Topdrawer writer/ecnl marketing told you so.

You learned 98.666% of all national team players were developed by ecnl. The few that weren't, will be soon, once ecnl absorbs their club and adds their names to the PR blasts.

You learned anybody who ever did anything in women's soccer was ecnl connected. Carli Lloyd walked past an ecnl practice in March. She was so inspired, she went out and dominated the 2015 WWC. Topdrawer is putting the finising touches on their article celebrating ecnl's incredible contribution to WWC 2015. It will be a premium only article, but don't worry if you don't subscribe. Ecnl parents will post it all over the internet.

You learned ecnl figured the brand was suffering by the group of teams with 3 GF and 300 GA. Since they can't require teams earn their spots, they realized the name is becoming a misnomer. They petitioned a focus group to change the name to MECNL...M for Mostly. Mainly and Marginally did not poll quite as well in the focus group.

You learned the MECNL is extraordinarily skillful at spining a negative into a positive, as the name change now allows even more players to become MECNL connected. Topdrawer/MECNL marketing interns just announced any player...past, present or future, having any of the league acronym characters in any of their names, can now be claimed as MECNL connected.

You learned Marta's development into a phenom was mostly because of this connection...the MECNL impact spans not only time and space, but continents as well. MECNL's video feed captured Marta saying her own personal s'hero was the most famous MECNL player of all time...Mia Hamm...triple connected.

I learned that an athletic scholarship to Stanford is far inferior to need-based aid at Princeton.  I really feel sorry for all of those dumb jocks who have to slum it out at Stanford. Sad
My older son is at Stanford.  I found it funny during a welcome speech by the President, when he referred to a number of Ivys including Princeton as "safety schools". Very Happy

22 months without a post, and all it took was a pot-shot at Stanford to bring you out of hibernation???

Welcome back, AD!

(p.s. Diggin' the avatar...  A-UP!  Should be a fun one with 18,000+ close friends this Friday!)
haha. I'm getting there early.
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Post by MiddleClass 25/08/15, 09:46 pm

I don't think there is any doubt ECNL has the top talent and college coaches should focus on their showcases.  Even though my dd is non-ecnl by choice, I am pro-ECNL.  Just like LH U11-U13 was a strong league, ECNL is where the best competition is across the board.  Especially in Dallas, if you want your dd to get noticed and she can play at a high level, it's in most cases the place to be.  The rare exceptions are teams like Kicks where the team is coached by the club founder.  In most cases, a coach would move that team in a heartbeat.  When your the founder, you don't have that incentive to move the team.  If Kicks 01 was offered into ECNL, I'm pretty sure they would be in that league.  Is it a reason to just break up a team just to be in the top league?  I think they have proven that they can find competition, keep the team together and get players noticed on a national scale.  That is why ECNL is the best league if your a top talent unless you find a top team like Kicks, which is the rare exception around these parts of town.

I am hoping Solar, FC Dallas, Sting or Texans can close the gap on Socal this year.  Socal has had three different teams win the most prestigious events over the last two years in the 01 age group.  We can at least say 01s for one more season....lol.

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Post by dallas 1968 25/08/15, 10:37 pm

MiddleClass wrote:

I am hoping Solar, FC Dallas, Sting or Texans can close the gap on Socal this year.  Socal has had three different teams win the most prestigious events over the last two years in the 01 age group.

Don't hold your breath.

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Post by Guest 26/08/15, 08:13 am

dallas 1968 wrote:
MiddleClass wrote:

I am hoping Solar, FC Dallas, Sting or Texans can close the gap on Socal this year.  Socal has had three different teams win the most prestigious events over the last two years in the 01 age group.

Don't hold your breath.

I don't think there is much of a gap. Watched the 01 ecnl games online and surf is a small cut above everyone else, but I wouldnt put any of the other socal teams as clear favorites over the best of ntx.

Sometimes it comes down to a break here or there, but slammers, hawks, bethesda, gsa, etc are all about the same as the top ntx sides. I agree with most of what middleclass said...there isnt much doubt the top third of ecnl is the most competitive in the country. The country, not the globe. Lol. I don't agree with the "across the board", as the bottom third of ecnl has too many teams that get hammered inside and outside of ecnl for me to make that claim. I do think there is a small gap from top of usys to top of ecnl...mostly depth and next level tactics. Either way, I was just having fun with the tightly wound elitists, since I learned last week there is a whole other stratosphere of elitism beyond ecnl.

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