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Post by TulsaFootballDad 10/07/16, 08:00 pm

Zizou wrote:Welcome to any soccer board on the Internet full of observations and judgements. Well good luck to you and your club. Keep up all the good work and development of young soccer players in Oklahoma. Lol.


We will develop our kids, believe that, if we can win your ECNL Tx div in one age group with less than a 1/10 of your metro's population then that shows true development, You guys should dominate,  we look forward to beating you! Very Happy


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Post by Zizou 10/07/16, 08:01 pm

Anytime, My DD appreciated the opportunity to play and to get to know your DD. Good times!

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Post by soccerjack 10/07/16, 08:02 pm

If you leave the kids and soccer out of it. Oklahoma is still kind of a hole that needs to be paved. Can everyone agree on that at least?
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 10/07/16, 08:02 pm

4-3-3, takes a big man to admit any flaw in our precious ego so I applaud you.
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 10/07/16, 08:03 pm

soccerjack wrote:If you leave the kids and soccer out of it. Oklahoma is still kind of a hole that needs to be paved. Can everyone agree on that at least?

No, Oklahoma has some beautiful natural scenery just like TX does.
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 10/07/16, 08:06 pm

Zizou you must have been a central defender Very Happy
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Post by bird04 10/07/16, 09:51 pm

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Zizou wrote:That is where you are wrong again. 4-3-3 is not from OK nor has he ever been associated with a Oklahoma club. He was just giving his opinion on his observation of differences between the two clubs and in his mind why one might be more deserving of DA over the other,

Well now thats cleared up! A person that thinks he knows OK soccer from TX, great just like he was rating Cali teams, i'm from San Diego! LOL maybe i should just make up observations about N TX teams I know nothing about to place it in the ether. Either way he knows nothing about these clubs other than his so callled OBSERVATIONS and JUDGEMENTS! The good old folks at The ECNL and USSF must not have realized they need the input on who to place in their own leagues. Stick to what ya know!

First off let me apologize if I came off as trying to tear down TSC. Wasn't my intent. Really was just making a point I didn't think TSC not being included was a negative for DA in this region.
Admittedly, I'm just a ntx parent, have absolutely zero inside knowledge of USSF's club selection process, and know nothing about TSC's financials, coach credentials, or past national team history. I've watched two age groups play multiple times - 00s and 01s.

Been very impressed with what OFC has put on the field over the years, and likewise, other than a very solid academy team that used to travel to NTX back at u10/u11, what I've seen from tulsa at those age groups wasn't really close. Clearly drawing conclusions based on a limited perspective is flawed. Acknowledged. We all want the best for our kids, so no personal disrespect towards players or families (or the state) was intended.

I love it when my suppositions are confirmed! Your daughter(s) played against the 00's and the 01's...No wonder you have a low opinion of TSC! The 00's have been screwed up for years. Don't know much about the 01's 'cept they're in last in ECNL Texas League. Don't blame you for your opinions...on the other side of the coin, I now know why you have such a high opinion of OFC...their 00's are VERY good and their 01's are EVEN BETTER. But on both ends, a bit of anomaly as far as the clubs go...Good luck to all and look forward to ECNL play and hopefully DA play against all your excellent teams in the coming years!

PS Anyone know if OFC 01's still have that idiot in the pork pie hat that yells "Money" right next to your goalie when his daughter (I think it's his daughter) shoots on goal? On BOTH ends of the field (poor etiquette, but some people have little to no class...)

Zizou - appreciate the support brother.

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Post by goldenshoe 11/07/16, 08:39 am

http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-da-welcomes-28-additional-clubs

Sting and Texans were added to DA

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Post by Guest 11/07/16, 09:20 am

Disappointed that it's not more exclusive. Hopefully the 50/50 split of older and younger players is enforced.

Also, will Tulsa be giving out DA scholarships to Texas athletes? Isn't that the Oklahoma way?

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Post by SD69 11/07/16, 09:23 am

Sho'Nuff wrote:Disappointed that it's not more exclusive.  Hopefully the 50/50 split of older and younger players is enforced.

Also, will Tulsa be giving out DA scholarships to Texas athletes?  Isn't that the Oklahoma way?

I'm from the Sooner state myself, but that's funny!
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 09:56 am

Sho'Nuff wrote:Disappointed that it's not more exclusive.  Hopefully the 50/50 split of older and younger players is enforced.

Also, will Tulsa be giving out DA scholarships to Texas athletes?  Isn't that the Oklahoma way?

Last I looked Sho' Nuff', Leroy Greene, had left you on the floor! LOL Very Happy  The Last Dragon is an awesome movie!

These numbers say all that needs to. With these population numbers you should dominate all sports so why do OU, OSU pick up TX leftovers and wipe TX schools clock with them. Development!!!


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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 10:21 am

Sorry Sho' Nuff' that you feel TSCH is diluting and weaking the DA but maybe this will make you feel better in knowing we are improving.

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LOL, I'm from Cali and I don't think your living in the same realm. Between Surf and this years ECNL club champs, Slammers  with 2 national champions Cali is still the dominant region which is why they recieved <7 teams! I think TX has great soccer but belittling the clubs in your own League seems foolish.  We all want our TX ECNL league teams to dominate! We wish you all well.
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 10:33 am

Outside of Soccer, we as TSCH parents offer our condolences and support for all of you in Dallas and especially to your boys in blue!
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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 10:41 am

Areas of concern:

U15 ECNL Conference Standings
U15 Texas Conference
Rank Team PPG Pts GP W L T GF GA GD
01. Solar Chelsea Soccer Club ECNL U15*champ 4 2.50 45 18 14 1 3 45 7 38
02. Dallas Sting ECNL U15*champ 10 2.44 44 18 14 2 2 37 12 25
03. Dallas Texans ECNL U15*champ 24 1.83 33 18 10 5 3 33 17 16
04. FC Dallas ECNL U15*wc 1*champ 17 1.78 32 18 9 4 5 32 17 15
05. Lonestar SC ECNL U15*wc 10 1.50 27 18 7 5 6 16 16 0
06. Texas Rush ECNL U15 1.00 18 18 5 10 3 15 29 -14
07. D'Feeters Soccer Club ECNL U15 0.94 17 18 5 11 2 15 26 -11
08. Challenge SC ECNL U15 0.78 14 18 3 10 5 11 34 -23
09. AHFC ECNL U15 0.72 13 18 3 11 4 13 25 -12
10. TSC Hurricane ECNL U15 0.50 9 18 2 13 3 8 42 -34

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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 10:42 am

Areas of concern:

U16 ECNL Conference Standings
U16 Texas Conference
Rank Team PPG Pts GP W L T GF GA GD
01. Solar Chelsea Soccer Club ECNL U16*champ 2 2.44 44 18 14 2 2 37 8 29
02. D'Feeters Soccer Club ECNL U16*champ 25 1.67 30 18 10 8 0 33 20 13
03. Dallas Texans ECNL U16*champ 30 1.67 30 18 8 4 6 33 23 10
04. FC Dallas ECNL U16*wc 4*champ 19 1.44 26 18 7 6 5 14 13 1
05. Dallas Sting ECNL U16*wc 9 1.44 26 18 8 8 2 18 15 3
06. Lonestar SC ECNL U16 1.28 23 18 6 7 5 16 20 -4
07. Challenge SC ECNL U16 1.28 23 18 5 5 8 22 23 -1
08. AHFC ECNL U16 1.00 18 18 5 10 3 12 27 -15
09. TSC Hurricane ECNL U16 0.89 16 18 4 10 4 15 36 -21
10. Texas Rush ECNL U16 0.83 15 18 4 11 3 12 27 -15

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Post by Guest 11/07/16, 10:43 am

I don't care enough about Clubs to belittle yours or any others.

My first sentence was referring to the four NTX DA spots only; I was hoping for less with no cares given to which Clubs were included.

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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 10:44 am

Areas of concern:


U18 ECNL Conference Standings
U18 Texas Conference
Rank Team PPG Pts GP W L T GF GA GD
01. Dallas Sting ECNL U18*champ 6 2.44 44 18 14 2 2 43 10 33
02. Dallas Texans ECNL U18*champ 14 2.22 40 18 13 4 1 30 12 18
03. Solar Chelsea Soccer Club ECNL U18 1.83 33 18 10 5 3 45 27 18
04. FC Dallas ECNL U18 1.83 33 18 10 5 3 24 16 8
05. Challenge SC ECNL U18 1.61 29 18 9 7 2 24 21 3
06. Lonestar SC ECNL U18 1.39 25 18 7 7 4 20 20 0
07. Texas Rush ECNL U18 1.18 20 17 6 9 2 15 20 -5
08. TSC Hurricane ECNL U18 0.82 14 17 4 11 2 21 49 -28
09. AHFC ECNL U18 0.56 10 18 2 12 4 14 43 -29
10. D'Feeters Soccer Club ECNL U18 0.39 7 18 2 15 1 10 28 -18

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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 10:47 am

U-14 team strong physical, but struggled the second part of the season as others started to gel.

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Post by go99 11/07/16, 10:48 am

okay you should all keep yourselves out of the DA and stay in ECNL. The DA is a developmental league and all you guys can talk about is the "rankings" The only question is can those clubs develop girls. One of the points of the league is less games and more practice with the ability to focus on developing talent rather than the focus on winning. Saw it happen with boys when the DA came in wrong parental mentality corrupting the idea itself.

Would be nice to see OKC in the girls DA. Could be coming to both girls and boys with a rumored partnership with energy FC and their MLS push.
But more regional teams cut down on travel cost which is a good thing not a bad one. And as far as diluting goes that only applies to parental egos (oh look at me my kid is in an elite league) Development is about not missing out on talent not exclusivity and restricting. completely ignoring a metroplex the size of OKC area is not a good thing
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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 10:49 am

My idea of development is to move all your teams consistently within the top five. U-17's have set the bar. It's time to run with their success across all levels.

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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 10:52 am

Zizou, areas of concern are very true, like I stated we have a smaller population density here in OK. We may be last in some age leagues, but in others N TX teams are behind. We have several Clubs that are uniting as they are in N TX and kids moving from other clubs for ECNL and now DA in the future. We are still a work in progress. That team that won ECNL league has a player going to England with the U18 national team. They also lost by goal differential of 1 to make the finals. Slammers took that division and won the National Chamionship. So things aren't perfect but we are a smaller Club than those in N TX and working to improve. Those are the things that should be measured.
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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 10:57 am

Zizou wrote:My idea of development is to move all your teams consistently within the top five. U-17's have set the bar. It's time to run with their success across all levels.

Whole heartedly agree! That is why we @ TSCH have to play N TX teams to improve, there are only so many teams we can play in state to offer competition. With the JR ECNL league coming into effect hopefully in the Spring of 17 this should help in the transition to full ECNL league play.
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Post by Zizou 11/07/16, 11:01 am

We are smaller clubs and less population than Cali. Everyone has hurdles they must overcome. The word for the day should be consistency. NTX has its own problems with consistency at certain levels. Consolidation of players is the key, but with that said be careful what you wish for our DD's could be the ones looking in from the outside.

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Post by go99 11/07/16, 11:04 am

Zizou wrote:My idea of development is to move all your teams consistently within the top five. U-17's have set the bar. It's time to run with their success across all levels.
Okay well your idea is wrong. Get big, fast girls kick the ball hard, be aggressive and maybe add a special player up top and all of your teams will experience success. Winning and development are not the same thing.

Now somebody tell me TSC is terrible at developing talent. That their teams play a horrible style of play. Tell me OKC is way better at it. Give me something. But if ALL you have is "look all of their teams don't win" BTW a DA spot will bring in talent which should cure some of your concerns. Players are migratory they will go where their needs are met. To some degree so are coaches. Organization, infrastructure are the hardest things to transfer.
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Post by Gunners 11/07/16, 11:05 am

Four NTX DA clubs, huh..

Proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is, and always was, about the money for USSF.  An argument could be made that three clubs is too many, but four clubs is ridiculous.

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Post by TulsaFootballDad 11/07/16, 11:09 am

Sho'Nuff wrote: I don't care enough about Clubs to belittle yours or any others.

My first sentence was referring to the four NTX DA spots only; I was hoping for less with no cares given to which Clubs were included.  

Got YA! Very Happy
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