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Post by White Walker on 29/08/16, 04:36 pm


http://www.jrdevelopmentleague.com/
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Post by TatonkaBurger on 29/08/16, 04:59 pm

9 teams instead of the 10 that it should be for JDL U13.  Shocked   
Only 8 teams in JDL U12.  Shocked  Shocked   
And no Oklahoma teams as some of the rumors suggested.

I hope the panic this summer was worth it.
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Post by Guest on 29/08/16, 05:04 pm

TatonkaBurger wrote:9 teams instead of the 10 that it should be for JDL U13.  Shocked   
Only 8 teams in JDL U12.  Shocked  Shocked   
And no Oklahoma teams as some of the rumors suggested.

I hope the panic this summer was worth it.

Games are in Fairview to lure Tulsa.

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Post by boilerjoe_96 on 29/08/16, 05:07 pm

Closest fields to my house...hope they do same next year.
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Post by ForReal on 29/08/16, 05:26 pm

Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

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Post by Shivas on 29/08/16, 05:37 pm

ForReal wrote:Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

I heard a rumor that Kicks and Feet are not together anymore. Not sure if true, but it would explain no teams in U12. Thought those spots were going to the two Kicks teams. Anybody else hear anything?

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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 05:46 pm

boilerjoe_96 wrote:Closest fields to my house...hope they do same next year.

You will have to leave kicks to play JDL.
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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 05:49 pm

isikzgez1 wrote:
ForReal wrote:Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

I heard a rumor that Kicks and Feet are not together anymore.  Not sure if true, but it would explain no teams in U12.  Thought those spots were going to the two Kicks teams.  Anybody else hear anything?

for a league that promotes development so coaches don't worry about wins/losses, promotion/relegation why make a rule that if you are not registered under USYSA with Dfeeters you can't play in JDL.

Dfeeters and Kicks are still together.

Very simply Texans, Solar, FCD, and Sting voted that Kicks or any club/player cannot play in JDL unless they are registered via USYASA as D'Feeters or a member jdl club.

I guess development means excluding some very good teams and very good players from the pool.

If it's about development why the need for exclusion?
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Post by Shivas on 29/08/16, 06:17 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
isikzgez1 wrote:
ForReal wrote:Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

I heard a rumor that Kicks and Feet are not together anymore.  Not sure if true, but it would explain no teams in U12.  Thought those spots were going to the two Kicks teams.  Anybody else hear anything?

for a league that promotes development so coaches don't worry about wins/losses, promotion/relegation why make a rule that if you are not registered under USYSA with Dfeeters you can't play in JDL.  

Dfeeters and Kicks are still together.

Very simply Texans, Solar, FCD, and Sting voted that Kicks or any club/player cannot play in JDL unless they are registered via USYASA as D'Feeters or a member jdl club.

I guess development means excluding some very good teams and very good players from the pool.  

If it's about development why the need for exclusion?

Thanks for the clarification.

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Post by jogobonito06 on 29/08/16, 06:23 pm

Why not register with the club you "merged" with?
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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 06:46 pm

Why care that they are USYS for Lake highlands if they are D'Feeters via US Club... who is the sanctioning body of JDL.
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Post by PLAY2FEET!! on 29/08/16, 07:10 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
isikzgez1 wrote:
ForReal wrote:Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

I heard a rumor that Kicks and Feet are not together anymore.  Not sure if true, but it would explain no teams in U12.  Thought those spots were going to the two Kicks teams.  Anybody else hear anything?

If it's about development why the need for exclusion
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That's an easy one. And it has nothing to do with development.

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Post by SickofStupidity on 29/08/16, 07:12 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
isikzgez1 wrote:
ForReal wrote:Where are the D'Kicks at any age?

I heard a rumor that Kicks and Feet are not together anymore.  Not sure if true, but it would explain no teams in U12.  Thought those spots were going to the two Kicks teams.  Anybody else hear anything?

for a league that promotes development so coaches don't worry about wins/losses, promotion/relegation why make a rule that if you are not registered under USYSA with Dfeeters you can't play in JDL.  

Dfeeters and Kicks are still together.

Very simply Texans, Solar, FCD, and Sting voted that Kicks or any club/player cannot play in JDL unless they are registered via USYASA as D'Feeters or a member jdl club.

I guess development means excluding some very good teams and very good players from the pool.  

If it's about development why the need for exclusion?


cheers

If anyone REALLY cares to know why their DOC voted to exclude Kicks - you should ask them

JDL is not about development as much as it is about monopolies and exclusivity



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Post by TX Turf Burn on 29/08/16, 08:16 pm

I am well aware that JM is an excellent coach and developer,  but he coaches one 05 team,  the rest of the Kicks organization outside of their famed 01 team(which is an elite level team mind you) is basically D2 level.  I don't see what all the ruckus is about not being included in JDL.  Please advise...
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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 08:23 pm

Kicks 05 selecao. Kicks 05 JM.. both top 05 teams. Pool of good 06 on both of those squads and good 05s, players on the kicks 06 squad would add to the pool for dfeeters 06. Kicks 07 and 08s both top teams.. mind you dfeeters also has top 07 and 08 teams... see the trend there.

The kicks 05 pool had a high number at this month's US Market Training center.... including an 06....

So either the big 4 feel threatened by Kicks bolstering D'Feeters, the big 4 are threatened by JM, or the big 4 exclude in hope of recruiting.. any of it sound like development....

More like fear and monopolizing a market.
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Post by NearPostRun on 29/08/16, 08:38 pm

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the US Market training center?

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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 08:45 pm

Without going into all the details...

Picture ODP, but run by the actual US Soccer Youth National Staff. Mommy and daddy can't sign you up. Kids are scouted and invited or referred in by a coach. US staff has say so if a kid gets to come back.

So like ODP but nothing like ODP. You can find details on the US Soccer DA page.
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Post by Big Ern on 29/08/16, 08:46 pm

AtThePitch wrote:Kicks 05 selecao. Kicks 05 JM.. both top 05 teams. Pool of good 06 on both of those squads and good 05s, players on the kicks 06 squad would add to the pool for dfeeters 06. Kicks 07 and 08s both top teams.. mind you dfeeters also has top 07 and 08 teams... see the trend there.

The kicks 05 pool had a high number at this month's US Market Training center.... including an 06....

So either the big 4 feel threatened by Kicks bolstering D'Feeters, the big 4 are threatened by JM, or the big 4 exclude in hope of recruiting.. any of it sound like development....

More like fear and monopolizing a market.

C'mon now.  Surely you don't think any of the Big 4 are afraid that Kicks or any other club on the outside are going to draw their top players and start taking their teams ... The argument is both silly and mundane at this point.  

Yes -- The big 4 are going to eventually take the majority of the top players, then coaches and teams will follow, just as they have already started to.  They have the product ... ECNL/DA -- it's just how it is.  I'd bet that every post against this ideal in both of these threads today is likely coming from those of you that have DDs playing outside of JDL.  

The sooner you get to one of them, the better.

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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 08:51 pm

My kid IS jdl.

If Kicks is no threat then why the vote?

Simple question.
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Post by Guest on 29/08/16, 09:10 pm

They would have voted against any team that attempted to utilize Dfeeters spot. That's not intended to be a dig at Kicks.

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Post by SickofStupidity on 29/08/16, 09:15 pm

My kid IS JDL as well.

Plenty of parents with JDL kids or kids in JDL clubs see this as a money grab and exclusionary.

"afraid" of JM and Kicks?  Maybe not.

unhappy that JM and 01 Kicks have challenged their ECNL fiefdom?  heck yes

ECNL's goal is the pooling of talent.  Not much different than the plan of JDL - drawing kids from independents to the Big 5 in order to pool talent, as all those independent kids are ultimately trapped on inferior teams and don't know what's good for them.  Mad

JM and Kicks 01 is the exception that breaks their mold.  His team is getting visibility that some of the Big 5 wish they were getting.  His success challenges their sales pitch.

But again - ask the DOCs yourself.  Why did they vote to exclude a coach and teams that have a clear partnership with an ECNL Club - minus the green and white jerseys - that made a decision to retain the Kicks name for some of their teams.  Teams that have a clear path to ECNL thru D'Feeters and who would benefit from this ECNL "prep".

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Post by Big Ern on 29/08/16, 09:20 pm

Good for you and simple answer ...

JDL is exclusive to ECNL Clubs. If Kicks had truly merged with D'Feeters and were wearing their gear, they'd be in. Not sure why this didn't happen as I don't have intimate knowledge there.

ECNL and DA clubs have those products due to many factors that set them apart. They all must have all of these qualities ... Strong sides in each select age group, a history of success, highly licensed coaches, and most importantly, facilities.

The other clubs that have some talent but don't have the products, don't have them because they are lacking in one or more of those areas.

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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 09:28 pm

JDL is sanctioned by US Club soccer.

All teams that were set to play in JDL were to wear the green and we're registered with US Club as Dfeeters...

Done here... waste of time... those of you that don't care to be tested by a larger body of good players in what is suppose to be a developmental league, that requires good players to pull off what they preach, will always have an excuse for why something is done...

Stinks if you ask me...
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Post by Big Ern on 29/08/16, 09:42 pm

AtThePitch wrote:JDL is sanctioned by US Club soccer.

All teams that were set to play in JDL were to wear the green and we're registered with US Club as Dfeeters...

Done here... waste of time... those of you that don't care to be tested by a larger body of good players in what is suppose to be a developmental league, that requires good players to pull off what they preach, will always have an excuse for why something is done...

Stinks if you ask me...

If that's the case, then agreed Sir. Guessing you're a part of that Kicks group since you mentioned "we're"?

And I thought I knew my 04 age group so didn't think that Kicks had any U13/04 sides strong enough to test other teams at the D1 level, let alone JDL.

Must be a phantom team out there that nobody knows about yet ... 04Rankings?

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Post by AtThePitch on 29/08/16, 09:44 pm

No my kid is not Kicks. Like I said she is JDL. The kicks kids currently are not....

That should change. More competition is a good thing. Unless some are afraid of it. I say bring it.
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