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Post by Tex316 on 16/01/17, 09:33 pm

What is the average scholarship a girl can get? Are there alot of full rides?

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Post by SoccerTexas on 16/01/17, 10:00 pm

Tex316 wrote:What is the average scholarship a girl can get? Are there alot of full rides?

A good place to start. Http://www.scholarshipstats.com

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Post by Guest on 16/01/17, 10:13 pm

To my knowledge, the following table is accurate:

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

This is just athletic scholarship $. Bottom line is that the average girl's soccer player is getting <50% from an athletic scholarship, even at D1 schools.

In many cases, there is academic money to be had as well. You'll hear time and time again that the best thing your DD can do is to knock her grades and test scores out of the park.


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Post by Gunners on 17/01/17, 09:38 am

From all I've seen, bwgohoper is right on.

One thing to consider is that state school vs private school can skew the avg scholarship when you're considering actual dollar amounts instead of the percentage.

Another thing I tell parents all the time is to assume the scholarship is guaranteed beyond the first year or even the first semester is flawed.  Yes the big conferences are now "Guaranteeing" scholarships for 4 years, but there are numerous ways for coaches to get out from under those guarantees.

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Post by Guest on 17/01/17, 10:59 am

That's a very good point. Athletic scholarships are just like club soccer... a series of 1 year contracts, and no guarantee of being renewed from one year to the next, and/or the amount can change from year-to-year.

Academic scholarships are typically guaranteed for all 4 years as long as a minimum GPA is maintained.

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Post by 5050Ball on 17/01/17, 11:29 am

Good point.
Know a coach who offered a kid 55% first year, 75% second and 100% last two. Coach left after year 1 and nothing beyond year 1 was in writing.

Other than the few NT-level players who have their choice among top programs, academics is really the key. D1 has 14 scholarships for a roster of 25-30. Coaches want to bring in as much quality as they can, so creativity in funding is crucial. A 40% athletic scholarship can easily become 100% for a kid with stellar grades/board scores. Coaches are pretty savvy and universities pretty flexible when it comes to enrolling STUDENT-athletes. They find academic money, waive out-of-state fees, create work-study programs, etc.

Of course it all still comes down to whether you are a FIT for the program in any given year. And at the rate some current D1 schools are making offers to FRESHMEN (!?!?) and SOPHOMORES, the academic piece is becoming even more important. It gives the kid some leverage.
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Post by SoccerTexas on 17/01/17, 11:34 am

Also, the player/family needs to put themselves in the shoes of the players already on the college team.  Do you anticipate getting minutes over existing soph/juniors/seniors?  Once you are on the squad, do you realize your coach is recruiting new players (HS, college transfers, internationals) that may be better than you at your position? etc.

Most players have not been in that situation since HS is the only time they have had multi "grade" players on the same team.  The influx of talent is tempered by the school's attendance zone for public high schools.  College obviously does not have those restrictions.

Commit to a school the player would want to attend without playing soccer at all.   If an injury happens would they still want to be at that school?  Would they realistically regain their spot with fresh new talent arriving every year?  Long after the parents have stopped bragging that their kid is playing in college, its the player that has to live with the choice/school.

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Post by Gunners on 18/01/17, 09:37 am

SoccerTexas wrote:Also, the player/family needs to put themselves in the shoes of the players already on the college team.  Do you anticipate getting minutes over existing soph/juniors/seniors?  Once you are on the squad, do you realize your coach is recruiting new players (HS, college transfers, internationals) that may be better than you at your position? etc.

Most players have not been in that situation since HS is the only time they have had multi "grade" players on the same team.  The influx of talent is tempered by the school's attendance zone for public high schools.  College obviously does not have those restrictions.

Commit to a school the player would want to attend without playing soccer at all.   If an injury happens would they still want to be at that school?  Would they realistically regain their spot with fresh new talent arriving every year?  Long after the parents have stopped bragging that their kid is playing in college, its the player that has to live with the choice/school.

This x10000000.

The attrition level in women's college soccer is unbelievable.

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Post by Longhorn on 07/03/17, 12:32 pm

In everyones humble opinion is it really necessary for a player to play DA or ECNL to get looks from college coaches?

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Post by Bodhisattva on 07/03/17, 01:35 pm

Longhorn wrote:In everyones humble opinion is it really necessary for a player to play DA or ECNL to get looks from college coaches?  

IMHO, they will get more looks on those stages than anywhere else. DA/ECNL provide more exposure.

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Post by tpitty on 07/03/17, 01:36 pm

Longhorn wrote:In everyones humble opinion is it really necessary for a player to play DA or ECNL to get looks from college coaches?  

No. Just much easier.

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Post by Longhorn on 07/03/17, 01:44 pm

...and I really should clarify that I am talking about getting looks from local or regional schools not coast to coast.

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Post by Lefty on 07/03/17, 02:28 pm

Longhorn wrote:...and I really should clarify that I am talking about getting looks from local or regional schools not coast to coast.  

Not entirely. 

The odds of getting 'A' look and the 'NUMBER' of looks you will get is better.  

As all the non-DA/ECNL coaches will stress it only takes one, the right one.

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Post by Longhorn on 07/03/17, 02:38 pm

That is so true!

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Post by Guest on 07/03/17, 02:48 pm

Lefty wrote:
Longhorn wrote:...and I really should clarify that I am talking about getting looks from local or regional schools not coast to coast.  

Not entirely. 

The odds of getting 'A' look and the 'NUMBER' of looks you will get is better.  

As all the non-DA/ECNL coaches will stress it only takes one, the right one.

...and, it still depends on what level of local/regional schools you are talking about.

If you are talking about the "better" D1 local/regional programs (Texas, TT, A&M, TCU, SMU, OK, OSU, LSU, etc.) then, yes, DA/ECNL is where those schools are going to focus the majority of their time/effort.

If you are talking about lower-tier D1 (SHSU, SFA, Lamar, UH, Tx. St., HBU, UIW, etc.) or DII/DIII schools, those schools will be showing up at the more well-known regional showcases (Texas Cup, Lonestar Showcase, FC Dallas Showcase, DIGC, etc.) where teams below ECNL/DA are attending.

My DD plays for a Composite team in TCL, but recently has been called up to play a couple of ECNL matches. At the last ECNL league match, coaches from TCU & SMU were there. Have yet to see a college coach show up at one of our TCL league matches this year.

Her Composite team played in the Lonestar Showcase in early Feb. and the FCD Showcase this past weekend. At Lonestar there were at least 10 college coaches in attendance at each game, but they all fall into the lower-tier DI/DII/DIII group. At FCD Showcase this past weekend, the coach traffic was a little bit lighter, but still 4-6 coaches at each game, again, all from the lower DI/DII/DIII classification.

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Post by Longhorn on 07/03/17, 03:39 pm

Thanks for the info. Very helpful

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Post by PowerKick on 07/03/17, 04:01 pm

Anyone has any experience to apply college on both coasts? Thank you.

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Post by NoSpinZone on 07/03/17, 04:28 pm

PowerKick wrote:Anyone has any experience to apply college on both coasts? Thank you.

Won't be an issue for you. Missing Sense will have your DD on the YNT in no time, from there pick your school.

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Post by Poacher on 07/03/17, 04:34 pm

PowerKick wrote:Anyone has any experience to apply college on both coasts? Thank you.

Let your dd fill out the application. Just trust me!
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Post by Foxysoccermom on 07/03/17, 04:44 pm

NoSpinZone wrote:
PowerKick wrote:Anyone has any experience to apply college on both coasts? Thank you.

Won't be an issue for you.  Missing Sense will have your DD on the YNT in no time, from there pick your school.

That's not fair the ivies and Stanford prefer to start looking at 11 yrs old. She needs to take the sat ASAP tough.
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Post by HomeStretch on 09/03/17, 12:34 pm

Knock the PSAT out of the park in 9th grade...Puts the kid in the driver's seat the rest of the way.

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Post by NoSpinZone on 09/03/17, 01:26 pm

HomeStretch wrote:Knock the PSAT out of the park in 9th grade...Puts the kid in the driver's seat the rest of the way.

What's a 'knock it out of the park' score?

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Post by PLAY2FEET!! on 09/03/17, 02:46 pm

NoSpinZone wrote:
HomeStretch wrote:Knock the PSAT out of the park in 9th grade...Puts the kid in the driver's seat the rest of the way.

What's a 'knock it out of the park' score?
It's relative to how good your  DD is. Very Happy

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Post by Lefty on 10/03/17, 09:24 am

SWINGIT!! wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
HomeStretch wrote:Knock the PSAT out of the park in 9th grade...Puts the kid in the driver's seat the rest of the way.

What's a 'knock it out of the park' score?
It's relative to how good your  DD is. Very Happy
And how good the school is academically.

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Post by HomeStretch on 11/03/17, 09:25 am

Top few ivies with the highest standards for academic index want to see mid 1200 range early on and at least 1400 for admission. Next tier non Ivy schools typically have a few set aside slots for athletes giving them more flexibility, but a kid that scores solid enough to project admission on academic merit alone has complete leverage in the recruiting process. Big state school...helps there too since academic money can be stacked with much lower scores.

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