DA, ECNL, LH Solution

Zizou wrote:Someone is going to have to fund the GDA.

Mexico is paying for DA. No wait you guys are!

Correct as she is playing in the DA next year.

La premier FC lists some specifics about their GDA training program here

http://lapremierfc.com/football/girlsacademy/periodization-program-at-the-la-academy

bwgophers wrote:

PowerKick wrote:

BigErn wrote:
Right.  While Sting have spoken to their teams and parents about having DA next year, they were not present on the latest call with USSDA to discuss roll out.  Sting are the only of the four that don't already have a USSDA program and I believe KM is on the ECNL BOD ...

Maybe the writing is on the wall that they will soon, or will eventually, go exclusively ECNL.

The day Sting goes exclusively ECNL, that is the day all their TOP teams will be exploded including their 06 Black team and younger age groups, which will weaken all their ECNL teams and less attractive for all their teams in all age groups.

That alone will make them loss hundreds of good players not just 85 which is about Million dollar or more lose in revenue, eventually make Sting the 2nd tier club.

It is a double-edged sword for all clubs not only Sting, but they have to go DA in order to maintain the current revenue stream.

To some degree, all 4 of the NTX DA clubs are doing it as a hedge bet.  I get the feeling there's a bit of a spectrum across the clubs with some more willing to go all-in on DA, and some who would strongly prefer to remain with the ECNL status quo.  Consistent with my earlier opinions expressed in this thread, I feel that the next 2-3 years is going to be a feeling out period to see how much influence DA will have on the "Elite" or "Very Good" portion of the NTX market.  If the NTX market shows that enough D1 level college talent prefer the ECNL model, and that in NTX, ECNL still provides a viable path to D1 college soccer, I think you will see 1-2 of the current NTX clubs pull from DA and go back to ECNL only.  Conversely, you will see at least 1, maybe 2 of the DA clubs forego ECNL for DA only.  

Again, we'll see if I'm wrong, but I think ~3 years from now, you will see 2, maybe 3, GDA clubs in NTX and 3-4 ECNL clubs in NTX, with no more than 2 clubs offering both DA and ECNL.

Doubtful. The bigs in socal, east coast and midwest would have to retain ECNL as a top tier league...otherwise doesnt matter if a handful of top talent in NTX chooses high school the first few years...eventually the national talent and subsequently the scouts will go DA and the kids wanting to play at that level will follow suit. DA2 could kill ECNL. All it would take for a club like Sting to go the way of dfeeters is for their three top coaches to be given leadership roles at FCD or Solar. KM moves to FCD and Sting is immediately relegated to a 2nd tier club.

DA may contract to fewer than 4 in 3 to 5 years, but doubtful it will be because ECNL is still seen as a top league for YNT and D1 talent.

HomeStretch wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

PowerKick wrote:

BigErn wrote:
Right.  While Sting have spoken to their teams and parents about having DA next year, they were not present on the latest call with USSDA to discuss roll out.  Sting are the only of the four that don't already have a USSDA program and I believe KM is on the ECNL BOD ...

Maybe the writing is on the wall that they will soon, or will eventually, go exclusively ECNL.

The day Sting goes exclusively ECNL, that is the day all their TOP teams will be exploded including their 06 Black team and younger age groups, which will weaken all their ECNL teams and less attractive for all their teams in all age groups.

That alone will make them loss hundreds of good players not just 85 which is about Million dollar or more lose in revenue, eventually make Sting the 2nd tier club.

It is a double-edged sword for all clubs not only Sting, but they have to go DA in order to maintain the current revenue stream.

To some degree, all 4 of the NTX DA clubs are doing it as a hedge bet.  I get the feeling there's a bit of a spectrum across the clubs with some more willing to go all-in on DA, and some who would strongly prefer to remain with the ECNL status quo.  Consistent with my earlier opinions expressed in this thread, I feel that the next 2-3 years is going to be a feeling out period to see how much influence DA will have on the "Elite" or "Very Good" portion of the NTX market.  If the NTX market shows that enough D1 level college talent prefer the ECNL model, and that in NTX, ECNL still provides a viable path to D1 college soccer, I think you will see 1-2 of the current NTX clubs pull from DA and go back to ECNL only.  Conversely, you will see at least 1, maybe 2 of the DA clubs forego ECNL for DA only.  

Again, we'll see if I'm wrong, but I think ~3 years from now, you will see 2, maybe 3, GDA clubs in NTX and 3-4 ECNL clubs in NTX, with no more than 2 clubs offering both DA and ECNL.

Doubtful. The bigs in socal, east coast and midwest would have to  retain ECNL as a top tier league...otherwise doesnt matter if a handful of top talent in NTX chooses high school the first few years...eventually the national talent and subsequently the scouts will go DA and the kids wanting to play at that level will follow suit. DA2 could kill ECNL. All it would take for a club like Sting to go the way of dfeeters is for their three top coaches to be given leadership roles at FCD or Solar. KM moves to FCD and Sting is immediately  relegated to a 2nd tier club.

DA may contract to fewer than 4 in 3 to 5 years, but doubtful it will be because ECNL is still seen as a top league for YNT and D1  talent.

We'll see.  I'm not going to disagree that DA will get the bulk of the creme-de-la-creme players who truly need and deserve national exposure for recruiting.  However, a lot of schools are still going to recruit heavily on a regional basis, and if the coaches still view ECNL as a quality source of players, then ECNL will remain viable.

DA2 makes sense in places like SoCal and New England where you have a high density of clubs that are within driving distance of one another.  DA2 kids will be "2nd Tier" kids who will be mostly looking at smaller D1 schools and below, and mostly will be looking to stay within driving distance of home to go to college.  With the current DA conference setup for NTX that includes Colo and KC, if I'm a parent of a "2nd Tier" kid (which I am by the way), why the hell do I want to go DA2 and fork out an extra $1k-$2k per year to make a plane trip to Colo and KC for league matches each year, when I know my kid has no desire to go to school in those places, and can get all of the competition and exposure she needs playing in ECNL and making car trips to Tulsa & Austin/SA instead?

...and if DA2 imposes similar restrictions that will essentially rule out participation in HS soccer or other sports/activities, that will be another strike against DA2, and in favor of ECNL.

Why the hell would you travel for DA2 vs ECNL? Same reason parents were lining up to travel to ecnl composite games instead of PL. One cannot guarantee competition and exposure remains anything worthwhile in ecnl if 1st and 2nd tier kids are in DA.  

Just not enough room for so many leagues all claiming to be elite and all with club level entry. The pool of players is not expanding. Say DA/DA2 sucks off 60% of the scholarship worthy talent. But now, college coach has to decide whether it's more fruitful hunting the other 40% in next tier ecnl with B and C teams that were guaranteed club spots, or whether the PL/NL league teams have more depth of quality since those individual teams earned their way in.

Given the top NL teams are still getting power 5 D1 verbals even with the entrenched ECNL juggernaut,  its not unreasonable ECNL sans its top players becomes viewed as the lowest level national league structure.  Guaranteed entry for teams in all age groups, politically oriented club acceptance model, sworn enemy of USSF, 2nd and 3rd tier players? Just as many indicators suggest ECNL has as good a chance becoming the LH of national leagues as it does of remaining relevant.

Well, let's circle back in 3 years and see who's right...

Probably neither of us...

Look, Grady, the day that you and I can't have a good old-fashioned argument, I'm gonna start wondering where I went wrong.

This is the same old thing with soccer....greed and or power! Do you really think da is going to produce more "superstars" than ecnl does now? If you showed all the stupid things the soccer kings have done this year to a business 101 class, they would be amazed. Age pure, jdl etc...a successful elite league is great for the .005 percent. The money comes from all the rest that like to play or just want to play in hs. The product for this level is horrible and I think this is what will catch them sooner or later. There aren't a lot of good coaches to begin with and part of this push is for the clubs to gain more control over them, with closed leagues. What's the biggest differentiator in kids soccer? Coaching not the fields.

If a club were to keep a low overhead and act as a clearing agent for the coaches, they would clean up. In every age group there are several indys or small clubs that do well. Pull them all together charge a small club fee..$500 make some on the uniforms and charge $500-$1000 less. Most of these teams already practice at parks or schools. Let the coaches reputiion drive it and reward them.

Wake up feet.

I believe the smart club will not do DA2. DA for your top level , ECNL second level, premiere league third. LHGCL well it will be somewhere down their.

I agree the ECNL travel and competition will be better for your composite players. Still having them compete within the region and nationally.

18 DA players
18 ECNL players
18 premier league players

Total per club 54 players

Wasn't really arguing about the order of the leagues as much of how do you keep and retain quality coaches, who drive the development. If you have the coaches and ecnl status right now. You win. IMO fcd is pushing the drive for club control, which dimenishes the value of coaching. They can't even field good teams or coaches in the younger jdl teams they have now.

Which was my point about feet, if they could capture the successful Indy coaches now and offer a better environment for coaches, they could steal the other good coaches with time.

soccerjack wrote:Wasn't really arguing about the order of the leagues as much of how do you keep and retain quality coaches, who drive the development. If you have the coaches and ecnl status right now. You win. IMO fcd is pushing the drive for club control, which dimenishes the value of coaching. They can't even field good teams or coaches in the younger jdl teams they have now.

Which was my point about feet, if they could capture the successful Indy coaches now and offer a better environment for coaches, they could steal the other good coaches with time.

Good morning soccerjack --

Completely agree that quality of coaching =success of programs. But please explain what this means ... "fcd is pushing the drive for club control, which dimenishes the value of coaching".

And I'm assuming you're referring to 06s with this ... "They can't even field good teams or coaches in the younger jdl teams they have now."?

The talent in this age group is not as abundant at FCD as the 04s and top of the 05s, but CR is a solid coach -- he should have them making strides in his second year with them. And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

BigErn wrote:

soccerjack wrote:Wasn't really arguing about the order of the leagues as much of how do you keep and retain quality coaches, who drive the development. If you have the coaches and ecnl status right now. You win. IMO fcd is pushing the drive for club control, which dimenishes the value of coaching. They can't even field good teams or coaches in the younger jdl teams they have now.

Which was my point about feet, if they could capture the successful Indy coaches now and offer a better environment for coaches, they could steal the other good coaches with time.

Good morning soccerjack --

Completely agree that quality of coaching =success of programs.  But please explain what this means ... "fcd is pushing the drive for club control, which dimenishes the value of coaching".

And I'm assuming you're referring to 06s with this ... "They can't even field good teams or coaches in the younger jdl teams they have now."?

The talent in this age group is not as abundant at FCD as the 04s and top of the 05s, but CR is a solid coach -- he should have them making strides in his second year with them.  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

No doubt about cr, they have several very good coaches. My point was they don't have enough very good coaches in a system their size.

The point about club control is true in any industry. The goal of consolidation is to have less competition and maximize profit. The end result is usually lower pay for the employees and less service offered. Most money starts to go to the bureaucracy. That's why I think if feet can keep ecnl and did some wise things now they could become a disrupter and really benefit. The problem is most of these guys don't have enough sense to look long term and put their ego aside.

Why spend time and resources developing young talent when you can simply recruit it down the road? Simply keep creating "elite leagues" and girls will come.

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple? Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Nice!  Looks like those fruit loops can actually play some soccer

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played? That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent). Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played?  That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent).  Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.  

Congrats - you are the first to assert that Big Ern is a genius

wazup wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played?  That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent).  Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.  

Congrats - you are the first to assert that Big Ern is a genius

This is probably a better indicator of the strength of the 07 FCD program:  https://www.txsoccer.net/t34419-fbr-07-march-31st-2017

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played?  That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent).  Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.  

Didn't think you'd fall for the "banana in the tailpipe" Axel ...



Congrats Sir on your extensive knowledge of the 07s!  I certainly wouldn't know any better as I haven't seen 1 minute of an 07 match, but it makes you wonder how they became ranked so highly on such a well regarded site doesn't it?  All I know is I've heard that FCD has a solid well of 07 talent ... so to address the validity of my previous (and actually relevant) point -- they should be pretty formidable in that group next year in JDL.

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played?  That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent).  Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.  

Didn't think you'd fall for the "banana in the tailpipe" Axel ...



Congrats Sir on your extensive knowledge of the 07s!  I certainly wouldn't know any better as I haven't seen 1 minute of an 07 match, but it makes you wonder how they became ranked so highly on such a well regarded site doesn't it?  All I know is I've heard that FCD has a solid well of 07 talent ... so to address the validity of my previous (and actually relevant) point -- they should be pretty formidable in that group next year in JDL.

BWGophers already used that, so day late, dollar short. I sort of stated how, using top team players, I bolded above. Top team worthy of top 5 in NTX imho, but not close on the second(unless she brings help). Check those rosters come QT!

I try to share insightful well thought out points on this board and the thread gets hijacked by a bunch of knuckleheads. What has this board become?

This board should be about serious soccer discussion. I think I'll start another board for just coaches and serious soccer people.

Meow to the 07 knuckleheads btw.

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:

Axel Foley wrote:

BigErn wrote:  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year.

Couple?  Oh you mean the team playing PT Silver? Got it!

Nope Axel -- I mean the two that are ranked in the top 14 nationally ...

1 SOLAR SC COLVIN SPRINGATE (TXN) 29.74
2 SAN DIEGO SURF SC EGSL ACADEMY (CAS) 29.48
3 SO CAL BLUES MULLIGAN RENNIE (CAS) 28.85
4 DALLAS KICKS SELECAO ACADEMY (TXN) 28.68
5 STRIKERS FC ORANGE COUNTY EGSL (CAS) 28.51
6 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEBB (TXN) 28.49
7 ALBION SC ACADEMY (CAS) 28.46
8 SAN DIEGO SC NAVY (CAS) 27.91
9 EAGLES (CAS) 27.73
10 STING SC FLANAGAN BLUE (TXN) 27.72
11 LEGENDS FC (CAS) 27.64
12 STING FLANAGAN WHITE (TXN) 27.47
13 LA GALAXY SOUTH BAY ELITE (CAS) 27.37
14 FC DALLAS WEBB BLUE (TXN) 27.18

What is PT Silver?

Hey Genius, click on the #14 team FCD Webb Blue, when last time they played?  That was KW's creation in the fall to shuffle players back and forth in the PIT league, Blue wasn't a set team but who ever she decided to bring that day(based on opponent).  Why don't you look in Spring Primetime U10G Silver for FCD Webb Samba. This would be the other powerhouse you are typing about. lol.  

Didn't think you'd fall for the "banana in the tailpipe" Axel ...



Congrats Sir on your extensive knowledge of the 07s!  I certainly wouldn't know any better as I haven't seen 1 minute of an 07 match, but it makes you wonder how they became ranked so highly on such a well regarded site doesn't it?  All I know is I've heard that FCD has a solid well of 07 talent ... so to address the validity of my previous (and actually relevant) point -- they should be pretty formidable in that group next year in JDL.

So basically - you didn't know anything about the 07 group, but had to come on here and share your non-knowledge with everyone else.  

Apparently, you should check your sources about this "well" of 07 talent and get your facts straight before selling a group you admittedly know nothing about.  Woo hoo!  FCD coolaid!

^ LoL!

C'mon now SOAP -- We know each other and you're better than that.

Wazup -- What do you think I'm selling and to whom?  What "facts" are you referring to?  I was just trying to have insightful, well thought out conversation with ole soccerjack.  Let's take a gander at what I've just written ...

"The talent in this age group is not as abundant at FCD as the 04s and top of the 05s, but CR is a solid coach -- he should have them making strides in his second year with them.  And a couple of strong 07 teams already in house should make that group very formidable next year."

then wrote ...

"All I know is I've heard that FCD has a solid well of 07 talent ... so to address the validity of my previous (and actually relevant) point -- they should be pretty formidable in that group next year in JDL."

Yep ... I told ya that I know zip about the 07 age group, and that I heard there was a good well of talent (which there would be even if they have one team ranked up there nationally) --

what I said about the 04 and 05s - truth
FCD 06s lacking in taklent - truth
CP is a solid coach - truth
FCD 07s have a well of talent and should be formidable next year - truth

You kids still think I'm on here to sell FC Dallas and JDL, when much of which I post is regarding the downfalls of each.  Those of us on this forum constantly in defense of our posts due to scrutiny of every word we write are only doing so to counter the detractors and haters that post primarily with emotion and subjectivity.  

Tell me more about the Kool Aid I must be drinking ... is it the same flavor at the other clubs my kids play for?  Let's try to be a touch more open minded and bit less intellectually lazy ... K?