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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:33 am

Zizou Extreme....you got a new story?

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:33 am

Soccer Jack I need your checking account number......

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Post by Zizou 05/04/17, 09:35 am

Dude, bring something to the conversation. You are mighty willing to judge, but not so willing to be judged.

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:36 am

Zizou Extreme I'm still waiting for biggie size to answer my question.

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Post by Big Ern 05/04/17, 09:37 am

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BigboyBentley wrote:Big em I think we are just frustrated w all the lack of coaching and all the rules that are in place. The smaller clubs just don't have the resources to compete at the highest levels since the system was built and designed to pad the pockets of the political machine bigs. This is true for about anything. It's just unfortunate that the elite who can pay for these type of platforms limits many...there's a reson why the soccee in NTX is broken...ypu sound like that's not your side...others don't have those opportunities.....don't says it negative it's just the truth....no one likes that.....

I'm with you regarding the lack of great coaching in NTX and understand your stance of frustration when it comes to new platforms and their regulations.  However, while awarding the bigs these platforms (JDL, ECNL, USSDA) certainly makes the rich, richer and may seem that this is the primary purpose, it is not.  US Club and USSF award them to the bigs because they do have licensed coaches ... they do have facilities ... they do have a history of success in each age group.  Those at the top of those organizations know that the consolidation (there is that word again) of top talent into clubs that have those criterion is paramount to the continued success of women's soccer in our country.  

When you say "the elite who can pay for these type of platforms limits many" here, I'm guessing you're referring to people with the $ (which is a strange use of the the word elite in this setting, but ok)?  If this is the case then sure, it is unfortunate that a few literally cannot afford to have their kiddo play at one of the bigs, but there are scholarship programs in place to assist those folks.  For the other 99% of us, we can afford the extra $200-$300/month to have our kids follow their passion and dreams ... just might have to give up the morning Starbucks, 4G LTE data, or a couple movie channels.  My point being here is that we don't have to have "elite" pocketbooks if we have "elite" kids.


Dial back the enthusiasm just a bit bigE - JDL was not "awarded" to the bigs by US Club or USSF

it was essentially created by the bigs


as for $200-$300/month - that would equate $2400-$3600/year.  Anyone here at one of the bigs only paying $2400-$3600/year?  not including any extra skills - just for the costs associated with playing on a "big" select team (club dues, uniforms, team fees, indoor, tournaments, out-of-town travel, in-town travel, driving to practice).  The all-in costs of playing select soccer at a "big" include a lot more than what a scholarship may cover.  

If you know a select team at one of the bigs where the all-in costs are $2400 a year, PLEASE, by all means, share it with us!   lol!   In fact, I would be interested to hear of anyone who has costs of less than $3600/year playing select at one of the bigs.

But your dismissive attitude of "giving up Starbucks or a couple movie channels" to afford select soccer at the bigs speaks volumes.  No one I know is paying $300+/month for "a couple of movie channels" each month, except maybe you.

and you wonder why people on here think you are such a douche

^ Jesus ... always so zealous and emotional wazup.

No enthusiasm required for this one -- calm as a Hindu cow.  JDL was included there along with ECNL and USSDA due to it's relevance to my response to BBB (you know ... where I agreed that these platforms make the rich, richer).

I can always count on you to pick and choose the words to benefit an unsubstantiated argument against some little tid bit from one of my posts.  In this case you of course chose to ignore the word "extra" ... which used here means in addition to whatever fees the 1% that can't afford to play at the bigs are paying for recreational soccer or to independent Club A.

Again wazup ... I know it's just so darn frustrating for you to have to read objective posts based on logic, reason or fact that apparently counter your own opinion, but can we please refrain from making it personal.  Let's be big kids K?  Thanks Very Happy


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Post by Zizou 05/04/17, 09:37 am

Give me a club I'll give you my 2 cents on coaches

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:39 am

Extreme I didn't ask for your nickle tour...let's see see what biggie size has to bring to the table. He had a good story to tell

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 09:41 am

Zizou wrote:Give me a club I'll give you my 2 cents on coaches

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:43 am

Soccer Jack I need your bank account number.....

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Post by Zizou 05/04/17, 09:43 am

Sorry I have not had any experience with them. Stay with the bigs.

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:43 am

Tick tock tick tock.......

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 09:46 am

Zizou wrote:Sorry I have not had any experience with them. Stay with the bigs.

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Post by wazup 05/04/17, 09:50 am

BigErn wrote:
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BigboyBentley wrote:Big em I think we are just frustrated w all the lack of coaching and all the rules that are in place. The smaller clubs just don't have the resources to compete at the highest levels since the system was built and designed to pad the pockets of the political machine bigs. This is true for about anything. It's just unfortunate that the elite who can pay for these type of platforms limits many...there's a reson why the soccee in NTX is broken...ypu sound like that's not your side...others don't have those opportunities.....don't says it negative it's just the truth....no one likes that.....

I'm with you regarding the lack of great coaching in NTX and understand your stance of frustration when it comes to new platforms and their regulations.  However, while awarding the bigs these platforms (JDL, ECNL, USSDA) certainly makes the rich, richer and may seem that this is the primary purpose, it is not.  US Club and USSF award them to the bigs because they do have licensed coaches ... they do have facilities ... they do have a history of success in each age group.  Those at the top of those organizations know that the consolidation (there is that word again) of top talent into clubs that have those criterion is paramount to the continued success of women's soccer in our country.  

When you say "the elite who can pay for these type of platforms limits many" here, I'm guessing you're referring to people with the $ (which is a strange use of the the word elite in this setting, but ok)?  If this is the case then sure, it is unfortunate that a few literally cannot afford to have their kiddo play at one of the bigs, but there are scholarship programs in place to assist those folks.  For the other 99% of us, we can afford the extra $200-$300/month to have our kids follow their passion and dreams ... just might have to give up the morning Starbucks, 4G LTE data, or a couple movie channels.  My point being here is that we don't have to have "elite" pocketbooks if we have "elite" kids.


Dial back the enthusiasm just a bit bigE - JDL was not "awarded" to the bigs by US Club or USSF

it was essentially created by the bigs


as for $200-$300/month - that would equate $2400-$3600/year.  Anyone here at one of the bigs only paying $2400-$3600/year?  not including any extra skills - just for the costs associated with playing on a "big" select team (club dues, uniforms, team fees, indoor, tournaments, out-of-town travel, in-town travel, driving to practice).  The all-in costs of playing select soccer at a "big" include a lot more than what a scholarship may cover.  

If you know a select team at one of the bigs where the all-in costs are $2400 a year, PLEASE, by all means, share it with us!   lol!   In fact, I would be interested to hear of anyone who has costs of less than $3600/year playing select at one of the bigs.

But your dismissive attitude of "giving up Starbucks or a couple movie channels" to afford select soccer at the bigs speaks volumes.  No one I know is paying $300+/month for "a couple of movie channels" each month, except maybe you.

and you wonder why people on here think you are such a douche

^ Jesus ... always so zealous and emotional wazup.

No enthusiasm required for this one -- calm as a Hindu cow.  JDL was included there along with ECNL and USSDA due to it's relevance to my response to BBB (you know ... where I agreed that these platforms make the rich, richer).

I can always count on you to pick and choose the words to benefit an unsubstantiated argument against some little tid bit from one of my posts.  In this case you of course chose to ignore the word "extra" ... which used here means in addition to whatever fees the 1% that can't afford to play at the bigs are paying for recreational soccer or to independent Club A.

Again wazup ... I know it's just so darn frustrating for you to have to read objective posts based on logic, reason or fact that apparently counter your own opinion, but can we please refrain from making it personal.  Let's be big kids K?  Thanks Very Happy

Good dodge!

You specifically included JDL as a platform "awarded" to the bigs.  (And I like our previous discussion where you dismissed the bigs involvement in the creation of JDL / JDL rules by claiming it was set up by LHGCL - apparently because LHGCL is some autonomous body?)


So you are referring to the 99% who can afford both club dues AND the extra $200-300 per month.

by cutting their "couple of movie channels"

that is some expensive porn you are subscribed to


objective posts based on logic???!?

"we can afford the extra $200-$300/month to have our kids follow their passion and dreams ... just might have to give up the morning Starbucks, 4G LTE data, or a couple movie channels"

So BigE - what movie channels are costing you $300/mo

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:51 am

We all need Soccer Jack bank roll to burn........

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 09:53 am

I think big boy and wazup is the same person.
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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:54 am

Soccer Jack has a story to tell.....

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 09:55 am

We like non fiction Soccer Jack

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 10:01 am

BigboyBentley wrote:Soccer Jack has a story to tell.....

Yes I do...odp rocks, big clubs suck, violets are blue, wazup is a dipshit and so are you.
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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 10:06 am

Tick tock I'm still waiting on Biggie size...Soccer Jack

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 10:09 am

Soccer Jack I'm starting to think you know biggie size...you might be in the same cubicle area at the corporate office.....tell biggie that he needs to step up and be a champ for his story......tick tock tick tock.....

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Post by Zizou 05/04/17, 10:22 am

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Zizou wrote:Sorry I have not had any experience with them. Stay with the bigs.

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Okay, Q has most control on the girls side coaching the ECNL groups. His partner in crime J steps in on some training and is available when Q is not. Q has some skins on the wall teams at sting that he trained and had success with. Started at Texans , went to sting and is now back with the Texans. I've heard mixed feelings about his methods but feel he is experienced enough and has been in the NTX seen long enough to get the job done. My DD has not worked with Q nor J

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 10:26 am

Tick tock tick tock....BigE I'm sltill waiting on the coach's that are worth burning Soccer Jack bank roll...extreme a cheer leader for you...step up and be a champ......we want to hear your story w the facts...

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 10:27 am

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Zizou wrote:Sorry I have not had any experience with them. Stay with the bigs.

Texans

Okay, Q has most control on the girls side coaching the ECNL groups. His partner in crime J steps in on some training and is available when Q is not. Q has some skins on the wall teams at sting that he trained and had success with. Started at Texans , went to sting and is now back with the Texans. I've heard mixed feelings about his methods but feel he is experienced enough and has been in the NTX seen long enough to get the job done. My DD has not worked with Q nor J

Gotta name at least 4. How bout solar?
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Post by Zizou 05/04/17, 10:31 am

Solar, great line-up on the girls side.

AS, MM, DM, JB three out of the four if you are given the opportunity to play for are amazing. The other one well he alright. Not only knowlegable soccer minds , but really great with the girls.

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Post by Big Boy Bentley 05/04/17, 10:34 am

Tick tock tick tock I got all day to wait on BiggEE. He's hiding behind his chronies at the corporate office Extreme and Jack

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Post by soccerjack 05/04/17, 10:35 am

How bout sting?
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