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Post by soccertard on 26/05/17, 11:12 am

Can anyone provide a screenshot of text message between them and Penn or them and Constance? I'll take photoshoped screenshots as well. Sho?

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Post by Pele98 on 26/05/17, 11:16 am

Bodhisattva wrote:"From Unity, Strength"

Unity? Strength?  You have been reading too much Trump twitters.  I would say Build A Wall.

...and bring more popcorns while you are at it.....this movie is good, y'all Twisted Evil .

So, what did practice-hopping Brian say about Ken and the other guy who sold something, which got Tasha so worked up on D2 byes?..... Shocked
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Post by Bodhisattva on 26/05/17, 11:20 am

soccertard wrote:Can anyone provide a screenshot of text message between them and Penn or them and Constance?  I'll take photoshoped screenshots as well.  Sho?

Tard, there are indeed paper trails; you just have to talk to the right people... Evil or Very Mad

I thought House of Cards Season 5 doesn't come out until May 30th??

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Post by Guest on 26/05/17, 11:46 am

More cow bell.

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Post by bandito974 on 26/05/17, 11:50 am

Its all Fun and games until That team formerly known as Rigsby snakes another bye

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Post by soccertard on 26/05/17, 12:19 pm

Absolutely sucks for the disbanded parents that cared about keeping the group together...BUT, maybe Fever will get a solid group of 14 unicorns.
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Post by Paulie Walnuts on 26/05/17, 12:26 pm

go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues lol!


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Post by Guest on 26/05/17, 12:32 pm

bandito974 wrote:Its all Fun and games until That team formerly known as Rigsby snakes another bye

DO TELL...

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Post by Bodhisattva on 26/05/17, 12:58 pm

Bringing out some "first time posters" while keeping the thread alive. #overachieving...

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Post by Bodhisattva on 26/05/17, 02:05 pm

Paulie Walnuts wrote:
go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues   lol!



Say word son...

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Post by KeeperCommander on 26/05/17, 02:35 pm

Sho'Nuff wrote:More cow bell.
It's the only RX that will help.

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Post by SD69 on 26/05/17, 03:38 pm

Paulie Walnuts wrote:
go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues   lol!


D4-1/2. Considering TCL was half a league this year.
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Post by giacamo on 26/05/17, 04:03 pm

poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:
poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:Looking for some advice as this is my first go around in LHGCL and would appreciate any feedback on what our options are.

My daughter played on the Fever 04 Penn team in LHGCL D2. We finished in tenth place and played the top teams well, beating or tying most of the top 5 teams.  We finished in 10th, but were only 11 points out of 1st place. So we secured the bye for next year.

This past weekend, the team won a tournament, posed with the trophy and all seemed good.  As a mom on this team, I saw nothing but great parents committed to their kids' success. So everything was going great. We thought.

On Tuesday, the coach sent out a letter which said he was disbanding the team because he did not trust the parents intentions.  Sure, a couple girls asked for releases because they thought they were too good for D2, but far from a mutiny.Heck, we had guest players out that were apparently offered positions on the team this weekend.  Overall a great group that intended to stay together.

We found out yesterday that Fever had been actively negotiating with other teams to bring their entire roster over to take our D2 spot.  We were all told that we could play for the NPL Fever Team, but apparently, we have to find another LHGCL team.

So my questions are:

1) Can they do this and does LHGCL condone this?

2) Do we as parents have any recourse? Some have suggested keeping the core together, hiring a new coach and going independent.  Is that an option?


Questions for you giacamo, how many of your "team mates" were consistently coming to practice before the team was disbanded?  Did you still have a team or had your "friends" already taken their DD out shopping for other teams and left the rest of you holding the bag?? Maybe just 1 or 3...no, more like 5-6....  Did they not invite you to go to practice hopping?  Would you rather this happened on June 30th or early enough to give you a chance to find a team?  I've had it happen in late June...NOT FUN AT ALL.  I am sure they will all say "I was planning to stay until Coach Penn sent the letter".  I call BS!!  The writing was on the wall, it was just not fun to read it out loud.  

Well you quickly demonstrated two things:

1) You are a fool!  If I was "practice hopping" why would I come on here looking for advice on how to keep a team together that got blind sided by their coach/club? I had actually refused offers for my daughter to guest play on other teams out of loyalty and respect for this guy.

2) You have some inside information that I do not. You must be very close to the coach when he tells you who is asking for releases.

Yes, some girls were chronically absent from practice and some of them were never penalized, played the entire game and the coach never addressed it, his fault.  We could live with it.

Yes, only 7-8 came to practice on Monday.  Remember we played 5 or 6 games Sat and Sunday. The girls were exhausted. Most coaches reward them with a day off.  This guy acted like a child and makes excuses for why they ditched the team.

Do you think he owed us at least one parent meeting to tell us about the problems he was having?  You saw the "writing on the wall" we did not.  We also would have liked a face to face meeting and not a disbanding via e mail.

Next time slow down and read out loud for comprehension before responding.  

1/  Where did I say YOU were practice hopping?  Maybe a little ticked off that you were not aware that your teammates did not share the same sense of loyalty.  Some were public about leaving and others were on their way out.  Either way, half or more of your roster was plotting and the rest of you were unaware and thought everything was just fine.  You are not the first team to have this happen in May/June...and you won't be the last.  So like I said, would you rather it happen the week before signing day or give you some time to make decisions about your DD?

2/  Where did I say anything about players asking for releases???  I didn't.

Now I completely agree, a parent meeting would have been a far better approach than writing a letter.  Just like calling North Texas Soccer to discuss the options would have been a far better approach than asking a bunch of parents on a soccer forum.  But hey, mission accomplished, the NTX soccer forum is now informed.

Sorry, been busy at work today and just catching up. I slowed down and read the post again as you requested:

Re: 1) You asked me if my friends on the team asked me to go "practice hopping". I replied No.

Re: 2) You notified the forum that my daughter was guest playing with a certain team this weekend; I had to get a release from the coach. Nobody else on the team was aware of this, thus, you had the inside info.

I am glad we agree that the coach handled this poorly. An apology from him and the owner to the team would do wonders for the club and for the coach's career, but I won't hold my breath on that.




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Post by giacamo on 26/05/17, 04:08 pm

Paulie Walnuts wrote:
go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues   lol!



Serious question: Where would you rank NPL in this list....I am guessing just above or below LHD2?

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Post by Bodhisattva on 26/05/17, 04:30 pm

giacamo wrote:
Paulie Walnuts wrote:
go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues   lol!



Serious question: Where would you rank NPL in this list....I am guessing just above or below LHD2?

"Asking for a friend..."

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Post by beapp74 on 26/05/17, 04:41 pm

giacamo wrote:
poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:
poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:Looking for some advice as this is my first go around in LHGCL and would appreciate any feedback on what our options are.

My daughter played on the Fever 04 Penn team in LHGCL D2. We finished in tenth place and played the top teams well, beating or tying most of the top 5 teams.  We finished in 10th, but were only 11 points out of 1st place. So we secured the bye for next year.

This past weekend, the team won a tournament, posed with the trophy and all seemed good.  As a mom on this team, I saw nothing but great parents committed to their kids' success. So everything was going great. We thought.

On Tuesday, the coach sent out a letter which said he was disbanding the team because he did not trust the parents intentions.  Sure, a couple girls asked for releases because they thought they were too good for D2, but far from a mutiny.Heck, we had guest players out that were apparently offered positions on the team this weekend.  Overall a great group that intended to stay together.

We found out yesterday that Fever had been actively negotiating with other teams to bring their entire roster over to take our D2 spot.  We were all told that we could play for the NPL Fever Team, but apparently, we have to find another LHGCL team.

So my questions are:

1) Can they do this and does LHGCL condone this?

2) Do we as parents have any recourse? Some have suggested keeping the core together, hiring a new coach and going independent.  Is that an option?


Questions for you giacamo, how many of your "team mates" were consistently coming to practice before the team was disbanded?  Did you still have a team or had your "friends" already taken their DD out shopping for other teams and left the rest of you holding the bag?? Maybe just 1 or 3...no, more like 5-6....  Did they not invite you to go to practice hopping?  Would you rather this happened on June 30th or early enough to give you a chance to find a team?  I've had it happen in late June...NOT FUN AT ALL.  I am sure they will all say "I was planning to stay until Coach Penn sent the letter".  I call BS!!  The writing was on the wall, it was just not fun to read it out loud.  

Well you quickly demonstrated two things:

1) You are a fool!  If I was "practice hopping" why would I come on here looking for advice on how to keep a team together that got blind sided by their coach/club? I had actually refused offers for my daughter to guest play on other teams out of loyalty and respect for this guy.

2) You have some inside information that I do not. You must be very close to the coach when he tells you who is asking for releases.

Yes, some girls were chronically absent from practice and some of them were never penalized, played the entire game and the coach never addressed it, his fault.  We could live with it.

Yes, only 7-8 came to practice on Monday.  Remember we played 5 or 6 games Sat and Sunday. The girls were exhausted. Most coaches reward them with a day off.  This guy acted like a child and makes excuses for why they ditched the team.

Do you think he owed us at least one parent meeting to tell us about the problems he was having?  You saw the "writing on the wall" we did not.  We also would have liked a face to face meeting and not a disbanding via e mail.

Next time slow down and read out loud for comprehension before responding.  

1/  Where did I say YOU were practice hopping?  Maybe a little ticked off that you were not aware that your teammates did not share the same sense of loyalty.  Some were public about leaving and others were on their way out.  Either way, half or more of your roster was plotting and the rest of you were unaware and thought everything was just fine.  You are not the first team to have this happen in May/June...and you won't be the last.  So like I said, would you rather it happen the week before signing day or give you some time to make decisions about your DD?

2/  Where did I say anything about players asking for releases???  I didn't.

Now I completely agree, a parent meeting would have been a far better approach than writing a letter.  Just like calling North Texas Soccer to discuss the options would have been a far better approach than asking a bunch of parents on a soccer forum.  But hey, mission accomplished, the NTX soccer forum is now informed.

Sorry, been busy at work today and just catching up.  I slowed down and read the post again as you requested:

Re: 1) You asked me if my friends on the team asked me to go "practice hopping". I replied No.

Re: 2) You notified the forum that my daughter was guest playing with a certain team this weekend; I had to get a release from the coach. Nobody else on the team was aware of this, thus, you had the inside info.

I am glad we agree that the coach handled this poorly. An apology from him and the owner to the team would do wonders for the club and for the coach's career, but I won't hold my breath on that.



No doubt coach handled this poorly, and probably had his girlfriend in his ear the whole time. She's the loud mouth you have to watch out for, but I guess now you can see that. Good luck to you and your kiddo, you did nothing wrong by exploring other options.
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Post by Bodhisattva on 26/05/17, 04:54 pm

beapp74 wrote:
giacamo wrote:
poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:
poobaby_02 wrote:
giacamo wrote:Looking for some advice as this is my first go around in LHGCL and would appreciate any feedback on what our options are.

My daughter played on the Fever 04 Penn team in LHGCL D2. We finished in tenth place and played the top teams well, beating or tying most of the top 5 teams.  We finished in 10th, but were only 11 points out of 1st place. So we secured the bye for next year.

This past weekend, the team won a tournament, posed with the trophy and all seemed good.  As a mom on this team, I saw nothing but great parents committed to their kids' success. So everything was going great. We thought.

On Tuesday, the coach sent out a letter which said he was disbanding the team because he did not trust the parents intentions.  Sure, a couple girls asked for releases because they thought they were too good for D2, but far from a mutiny.Heck, we had guest players out that were apparently offered positions on the team this weekend.  Overall a great group that intended to stay together.

We found out yesterday that Fever had been actively negotiating with other teams to bring their entire roster over to take our D2 spot.  We were all told that we could play for the NPL Fever Team, but apparently, we have to find another LHGCL team.

So my questions are:

1) Can they do this and does LHGCL condone this?

2) Do we as parents have any recourse? Some have suggested keeping the core together, hiring a new coach and going independent.  Is that an option?


Questions for you giacamo, how many of your "team mates" were consistently coming to practice before the team was disbanded?  Did you still have a team or had your "friends" already taken their DD out shopping for other teams and left the rest of you holding the bag?? Maybe just 1 or 3...no, more like 5-6....  Did they not invite you to go to practice hopping?  Would you rather this happened on June 30th or early enough to give you a chance to find a team?  I've had it happen in late June...NOT FUN AT ALL.  I am sure they will all say "I was planning to stay until Coach Penn sent the letter".  I call BS!!  The writing was on the wall, it was just not fun to read it out loud.  

Well you quickly demonstrated two things:

1) You are a fool!  If I was "practice hopping" why would I come on here looking for advice on how to keep a team together that got blind sided by their coach/club? I had actually refused offers for my daughter to guest play on other teams out of loyalty and respect for this guy.

2) You have some inside information that I do not. You must be very close to the coach when he tells you who is asking for releases.

Yes, some girls were chronically absent from practice and some of them were never penalized, played the entire game and the coach never addressed it, his fault.  We could live with it.

Yes, only 7-8 came to practice on Monday.  Remember we played 5 or 6 games Sat and Sunday. The girls were exhausted. Most coaches reward them with a day off.  This guy acted like a child and makes excuses for why they ditched the team.

Do you think he owed us at least one parent meeting to tell us about the problems he was having?  You saw the "writing on the wall" we did not.  We also would have liked a face to face meeting and not a disbanding via e mail.

Next time slow down and read out loud for comprehension before responding.  

1/  Where did I say YOU were practice hopping?  Maybe a little ticked off that you were not aware that your teammates did not share the same sense of loyalty.  Some were public about leaving and others were on their way out.  Either way, half or more of your roster was plotting and the rest of you were unaware and thought everything was just fine.  You are not the first team to have this happen in May/June...and you won't be the last.  So like I said, would you rather it happen the week before signing day or give you some time to make decisions about your DD?

2/  Where did I say anything about players asking for releases???  I didn't.

Now I completely agree, a parent meeting would have been a far better approach than writing a letter.  Just like calling North Texas Soccer to discuss the options would have been a far better approach than asking a bunch of parents on a soccer forum.  But hey, mission accomplished, the NTX soccer forum is now informed.

Sorry, been busy at work today and just catching up.  I slowed down and read the post again as you requested:

Re: 1) You asked me if my friends on the team asked me to go "practice hopping". I replied No.

Re: 2) You notified the forum that my daughter was guest playing with a certain team this weekend; I had to get a release from the coach. Nobody else on the team was aware of this, thus, you had the inside info.

I am glad we agree that the coach handled this poorly. An apology from him and the owner to the team would do wonders for the club and for the coach's career, but I won't hold my breath on that.



 No doubt coach handled this poorly, and probably had his girlfriend in his ear the whole time.  She's the loud mouth you have to watch out for, but I guess now you can see that.  Good luck to you and your kiddo, you did nothing wrong by exploring other options.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 26/05/17, 06:25 pm

Can we get a few more first time posters on here. Don't think we have heard from all of you yet.

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Post by Guest on 26/05/17, 07:01 pm

giacamo wrote:
Paulie Walnuts wrote:
go99 wrote:Wait whats Fever? scratch

Seems like a lot of drama for the new D4

D4??? More like D5. LH is now the new Plano. Plano is now very expensive rec. This is the new pecking order.

DA
ECNL
TCL
LHD1
LHD2
LHD3

The good news is the parents can keep plugging in the money to the machine thinking their kids are moving up based on the new leagues   lol!



Serious question: Where would you rank NPL in this list....I am guessing just above or below LHD2?

Depends on which NPL you are talking about (for example, TCL is an NPL), but since this thread is about Fever, let's assume you are talking about the new Red River NPL. Fever, NTX Celtic, and Liverpool were the NTX Clubs announced as participants. Go take a look through the U13-U16 Lake Highlands standings and see which division the top teams from Fever, Celtic, and Liverpool are in. That will give you your answer...

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Post by muzzleflash on 26/05/17, 08:44 pm

Those of us that have shown loyalty to Fever have gotten what we deserved. Soccer is a business first. Anything not directly related or aligned with the business objectives, like "player development" is affectation*

*(in my jaded opinion)

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Post by YoQuieroSoccer on 26/05/17, 10:34 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:Can we get a few more first time posters on here. Don't think we have heard from all of you yet.

Say no more...Wow this thread went 0-100 real quick!! Shocked It's been a while since I had a good read...Keep it going!! Laughing
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Post by KeeperCommander on 26/05/17, 10:35 pm

Can we get less first time posters please. We have now heard enough.

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Post by giacamo on 28/05/17, 09:11 pm

Giacomo, ridden by Mike E. Smith won the 2005 Kentucky Derby in a time of 2:02.75.[4] At odds of 50–1, Giacomo stands as tied, with Mine That Bird in 2009, for the second-biggest longshot ever to win the Derby, trailing only Donerail, who went off at 91–1 in 1913.[5]
Giacomo finished third in the 2005 Preakness Stakes behind the favorite, Afleet Alex. He finished seventh in the 2005 Belmont Stakes, again behind the favored Afleet Alex; Smith said after the race that the horse had breathing problems. Giacomo's owner received a first-place check of $1,639,600 for the victory, the largest in Kentucky Derby history.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 28/05/17, 09:31 pm

Can we get less 17 time posters too.

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Post by giacamo on 28/05/17, 10:35 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:Can we get less 17 time posters too.

Sure, buddy. It's all yours.

My mission is accomplished.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 29/05/17, 08:30 am

giacamo wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Can we get less 17 time posters too.

Sure, buddy. It's all yours.

My mission is accomplished.
But hey congrats on the Kentucky Derby.

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