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Post by Medicine Man 05/11/17, 08:35 pm

With the top talent moving to DA and being financed by the lower leagues. Will parents still pay the high costs of fees and travel for ECNL when the league has been devalued? Sad

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Post by soccerjack 05/11/17, 11:36 pm

Medicine Man wrote:With the top talent moving to DA and being financed by the lower leagues.  Will parents still pay the high costs of fees and travel for ECNL when the league has been devalued? Sad

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Post by Medicine Man 06/11/17, 04:18 am

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Post by Zizou 06/11/17, 05:58 am

ECNL will have the same thing happen to it that has happened to LHGCL. High priced watered down competition.

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Post by soccertard 06/11/17, 08:14 am

Current standings across the age groups tend to show a pattern of talent staying in ECNL, and not going DA...We need more leagues.  Most of us are not spending enough on this arms race.
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Post by Lefty 06/11/17, 09:39 am

Medicine Man wrote:With the top talent moving to DA and being financed by the lower leagues.  Will parents still pay the high costs of fees and travel for ECNL when the league has been devalued? Sad

It will probably survive in some form, like Arlington, Plano & LHGCL survive.  

The question will be what niche will it fill across time?  The answer may be different in different geographic areas.

In NTX would guess it will evolve to serve as the place for players targeting some of the smaller regional D1 & D2 programs.

Would not expect the pricing to change as they will still be selling 'we are the path to a college scholarship'.

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Post by Guest 06/11/17, 10:08 am

Zizou wrote:ECNL will have the same thing happen to it that has happened to LHGCL. High priced watered down competition.

right.....

Can Sting request a do-over?

Like "Hey DA people, we're ready now!! Can we get in?!? is it too late? com'on....let a sista in!!"

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Post by Medicine Man 06/11/17, 10:21 am

KC crystal ball knows the answers. After the great Exodus the PR nightmare and results in LH my money's on the Deathstar. Bet the farm mama says, mama says. The sheep will be guided off the cliff round 2.

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Post by soccerjack 06/11/17, 12:28 pm

In NTX would guess it will evolve to serve as the place for players targeting some of the smaller regional D1 & D2 programs.



This is what most people miss. If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for. You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number. If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

This is in my opinion, the problem with youth soccer....too many throw away all reason and accountability, to stand in line with the rest of the sheep that follow the shiny object.




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Post by PowerKick 06/11/17, 12:32 pm

JonSneauxTargaryen wrote:

Can Sting request a do-over?

Like "Hey DA people, we're ready now!! Can we get in?!? is it too late? com'on....let a sista in!!"

Earlier this year heard a DOC already predicted that D'Feeters will disappear by the end of 2018, and Sting will do the same unless......

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Post by PowerKick 06/11/17, 12:35 pm

soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.

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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 06/11/17, 12:50 pm

PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.

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Post by PowerKick 06/11/17, 01:00 pm

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.

My point is - ECNL clubs will not survive due to lack of younger players in the non-DA age group like U13 below, most of the younger players flooded into Big3. As a result ECNL clubs won't have enough cash to support their status.

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Post by soccerjack 06/11/17, 01:01 pm

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.


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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 06/11/17, 01:30 pm

soccerjack wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.


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This is both funny and sad..because you're probably right.

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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 06/11/17, 01:34 pm

PowerKick wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.

My point is - ECNL clubs will not survive due to lack of younger players in the non-DA age group like U13 below, most of the younger players flooded into Big3. As a result ECNL clubs won't have enough cash to support their status.
I understood your point, and let's assume you are correct that everyone flocks to the 3 DA clubs, where do those clubs then play those p(l)ayers?

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Post by Lefty 06/11/17, 02:45 pm

soccerjack wrote:In NTX would guess it will evolve to serve as the place for players targeting some of the smaller regional D1 & D2 programs.



This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

This is in my opinion, the problem with youth soccer....too many throw away all reason and accountability, to stand in line with the rest of the sheep that follow the shiny object.

I may be missing the point, but doubt a coach at a Power 5 D1 school is going to be real excited about committing $ to a 'superstar' who is not dedicated enough to her craft to play DA as that is certainly less than what will be expected of her in college soccer.

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Post by SoccerDad75033 06/11/17, 02:59 pm

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
soccerjack wrote:This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

You miss the point, the ECNL club will not survive due to that there won't be enough younger players in Select and Academy level, most of the players move to Big3 already happening.
So where do all of those excess players play? There are only 3 DA teams per age group? Where do you go if you don't make one of those teams? LH? Because you already told us ECNL is dead.

Not even that when you consider that the DA teams are combined at U16/U17 and U18/U19.

So next year, probably 60-75% of current U15 DA players will have to go elsewhere.

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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 06/11/17, 03:25 pm

Lefty wrote:
soccerjack wrote:In NTX would guess it will evolve to serve as the place for players targeting some of the smaller regional D1 & D2 programs.



This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

This is in my opinion, the problem with youth soccer....too many throw away all reason and accountability, to stand in line with the rest of the sheep that follow the shiny object.

I may be missing the point, but doubt a coach at a Power 5 D1 school is going to be real excited about committing $ to a 'superstar' who is not dedicated enough to her craft to play DA as that is certainly less than what will be expected of her in college soccer.
Prior to this season, that's exactly what they've been doing. Some even committing $ to non- ECNL players.

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Post by Medicine Man 06/11/17, 03:37 pm

Money down the drain. Now you got to start over. Can't you see the trend? It's almost comical.

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Post by TX Turf Burn 06/11/17, 04:53 pm

This time last year there was good amount of talk about DA 2 teams instead of ECNL
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Post by Guest 06/11/17, 07:06 pm

Lefty wrote:
soccerjack wrote:In NTX would guess it will evolve to serve as the place for players targeting some of the smaller regional D1 & D2 programs.



This is what most people miss.  If there are half as many DA teams than the old ECNL, then ECNL might be more relevant than people give credit for.  You would assume the same number of scholarships still exist, fewer will go to ECNL because of DA, but it should still be a significant number.  If a player is a superstar and wants to play ECNL for a better life balance, I would bet they will still get the exposure they want.

This is in my opinion, the problem with youth soccer....too many throw away all reason and accountability, to stand in line with the rest of the sheep that follow the shiny object.

I may be missing the point, but doubt a coach at a Power 5 D1 school is going to be real excited about committing $ to a 'superstar' who is not dedicated enough to her craft to play DA as that is certainly less than what will be expected of her in college soccer.
That has got to be one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever read on here. Completely laughable to say that a Power 5 D1 coach is going to pass on an ECNL "superstar", (your words). Just because she insn't playing DA. Then you go on to insult those that have chosen to stay ECNL by insinuating they are not dedicated enough to their craft. Please step away from the DA punch bowl for a few minutes.

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Post by Zizou 06/11/17, 07:20 pm

USSF will create a DA 2 and take three possibly four more clubs completely out of ECNL. ECNL will have no choice but to kick out those DA clubs that pull their second division teams from ECNL. This will be USSF’s final nail in the ECNL casket.

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Post by Zizou 06/11/17, 07:21 pm

Those offered the DA bid should have taken it.

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Post by Zizou 06/11/17, 07:33 pm

Albion gets a DA bid out of Houston next year. TSC or Tulsa energy get the one bid out of Oklahoma.

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