Will ECNL survive?

SickofStupidity wrote:At age 56, Lefty's daughter is asked "What is the biggest accomplishment of your life?"

"The biggest accomplishment of my life?  Well, making the U14 DA team, of course!"



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Lefty wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:At age 56, Lefty's daughter is asked "What is the biggest accomplishment of your life?"

"The biggest accomplishment of my life?  Well, making the U14 DA team, of course!"



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Sad but true in some cases for DD's that one of my DD's played with in the LHGCL/Red Bull/National League/ODP days.

Some from her teams are now Teachers, Engineers, Bankers, Architects, Vets, Dentists, Doctors & Attorneys so they were not scarred too much from not making the national teams.

SickofStupidity wrote:

Lefty wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:At age 56, Lefty's daughter is asked "What is the biggest accomplishment of your life?"

"The biggest accomplishment of my life?  Well, making the U14 DA team, of course!"



sad

Sad but true in some cases for DD's that one of my DD's played with in the LHGCL/Red Bull/National League/ODP days.

Some from her teams are now Teachers, Engineers, Bankers, Architects, Vets, Dentists, Doctors & Attorneys so they were not scarred too much from not making the national teams.

and yet, their biggest accomplishment in life is making (in your case) ODP at U14?

JonSneauxTargaryen wrote:Dark Side= “Whatever side you’re not on”

KeeperCommander wrote:

JonSneauxTargaryen wrote:Dark Side= “Whatever side you’re not on”

Dark Side because they know you will eventually be coming over. It’s your destiny.

Multivitamin wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:

Big Ern wrote:

UTrippin wrote:

U absolutely right trippin ... There are players not participating in ECNL or GDA that will receive a college soccer scholarship.  This was especially true just a few years ago before ECNL, but with the onset of GDA now as well, the chances of this happening aren't promising, and you can expect those chances to become even more miniscule in the near future ... Just the harsh reality of tomorrow's recruiting landscape.  This is because 90+% of kids participating in ECNL until at least U17 over the past 4 years have received college soccer scholarships ... with 90+% of those being at D1 schools.  GDA is only a few months in but those numbers are likely going to come in even higher due to it being a bit more exclusive with fewer programs + a higher level of talent in general.  These numbers are due to both tremendous exposure and tremendous need.  At ECNL and GDA Showcase events, there are 100+ college coaches scouting the talent.  Those leagues regularly have college coaches at standard league matches, and while this may sound insane, I've seen multiple college coaches (not all local) attending multiple GDA training sessions this Fall to scout talent.  

More reality ... If a player that wants to play in college is good enough to make an ECNL or GDA team, she will.  And if her parents can't afford it, she will be offered financial assistance from the club.  If she isn't good enough, she will struggle to get any exposure while playing in LH, PPL, Arlington, or HS ball.

Another tidbit ... Despite what you many of you may believe, the girls playing in GDA are still playing because the game is fun.  It's all relative to the level that the girls are playing at.  For example -- In general, a GDA athlete doesn't have fun playing at the level that most HS teams play at.  Conversely, a kid playing at the LH/HS level probably won't have much fun playing at the GDA level.  

Almost forgot ... While it isn't an expectation for 99.99% of the kids participating in GDA to make at NT roster, with roughly 4,800 kids participating in GDA with ~216 roster spots on US NTs = 4.5% could end up on one.

Well, sir, if you are going to use these numbers to support your 4.5% claim, it assumes:

(1) only the 4800 kids participating in GDA are eligible for roster spots, and
(2) all 216 spots are up for grabs each year

Neither of the above are the case.

That's like saying "with roughly 10,965 players participating in D1 college football with ~1696 roster spots on pro football teams = 15.5% of college D1 players could end up playing in the NFL."

Again, if you would keep your commentary to things you "know", you will sound more credible.

I know numbers and statistics are hard for you to wrap your noggin around, so I kindly recommend that the next time you want to wow us with your math skills, you take a deep breath, step away from your keyboard, and reconsider.

Cleansheets wrote:I think what's getting lost is the fact that there are several levels to choose from here in NTX. Ideally your DD should be playing at the level that best fits her ability. One that challenges but doesen't demoralize. Ulitimately the most important thing is it doesn't matter if your DD is playing DA or Plano Premier D3. The games, the teams and leagues are equally important to each player and their families regardless of what acronym they are playing in.

SickofStupidity wrote:Well then, I guess the following is true as well:

1.76% could end up on one
or 84.534%
or .000046%
or 6.3342%
or 12.649%

So . . . what was the point of throwing a couple of numbers out there (like dividing the number of US NT spots by the number of kids in DA to create a percentage . . .  that means nothing?)

With your statement "with roughly 4,800 kids participating in GDA with ~216 roster spots on US NTs = 4.5% could end up on one," I thought you were trying to use those numbers to make some kind of point.

Apparently the only point you were trying to make was "look here, I know how to divide".   Impressive!

Zizou wrote:International teams bring very little to the table as far as increasing competition levels.

Zizou wrote:International teams bring very little to the table as far as increasing competition levels.

Lefty wrote:

Zizou wrote:International teams bring very little to the table as far as increasing competition levels.

Would agree for the most part.  

My perception has been they are typically non-competitive if not affiliated with one of the professional teams, and even then, they tend to be skilled and tactical but woefully short of athletic ability.