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Post by NoSpinZone 19/02/18, 11:43 pm

How'd this happen? Only saw the one team. Trial run?

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Post by TulsaFootballDad 19/02/18, 11:55 pm

A team pulled out and Liverpool was invited. You could say it was a trial run. A player ended up with a fractured ankle injury in their final game and had to be stretchered off against Conneticut Soccer Club. 1-1 tie 3 minutes into the second half and the game was called.
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Post by Zizou 20/02/18, 06:03 am

LP’s addition to ECNL is going to make for increased competition for players in Dallas. Will this make ECNL better or even more watered down?

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Post by NoSpinZone 20/02/18, 06:20 am

My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows. I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA. Add in LP and the talent gets diluted imho. We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams. DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players. 6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

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Post by Medicine Man 20/02/18, 07:30 am

Zizou it's all watered down now. I guess the question will be asked by parents of recreational players that don't spend thousands of dollars for a product that is diminished at all levels and competitive play not much better. Is too big and too many leagues the way to go? To me it will change the dynamics across the board and many won't buy into the marketing and sales pitch of alot of the leagues that was the bread and butter of the corporate clubs. The market will be that much more separated for the real talent pool of N TX.

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Post by Zizou 20/02/18, 08:04 am

NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.

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Post by TatonkaBurger 20/02/18, 08:36 am

I thought the DA2 program was already coming, no?
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Post by SickofStupidity 20/02/18, 08:51 am

Not according to BigE

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Post by Guest 20/02/18, 09:23 am

Zizou wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.
OMG! Will you please stop with the DA2 talk. You are the only person on here that keeps perpetuating that idea. There is not going to be a DA2 here in NTX. The only place I have even heard that phrase mentioned is on the SoCal forum. That out there is an entirely different beast and could support that concept. If you are refering to the pilot teams at FCD and Solar, then call them what they are.

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Post by ForReal 20/02/18, 09:29 am

Cleansheets wrote:
Zizou wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.
OMG! Will you please stop with the DA2 talk. You are the only person on here that keeps perpetuating that idea. There is not going to be a DA2 here in NTX. The only place I have even heard that phrase mentioned is on the SoCal forum. That out there is an entirely different beast and could support that concept. If you are refering to the pilot teams at FCD and Solar, then call them what they are.

IF the Big 3 are asked/decide to leave ECNL, what is most likely to happen to those players?

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Post by Hang1053 20/02/18, 09:39 am

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Post by Guest 20/02/18, 09:40 am

Scatter into the wind. I'm sure those that don't make the u16/17 DA team will be herded into some "pilot" team to keep them within the club. Those that say no thanks will find another team, club. Whether it be ECNL or Classic. Regardless of what happens there will still be an ECNL presence in NTX.

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Post by SickofStupidity 20/02/18, 09:43 am

ForReal wrote:
Cleansheets wrote:
Zizou wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.
OMG! Will you please stop with the DA2 talk. You are the only person on here that keeps perpetuating that idea. There is not going to be a DA2 here in NTX. The only place I have even heard that phrase mentioned is on the SoCal forum. That out there is an entirely different beast and could support that concept. If you are refering to the pilot teams at FCD and Solar, then call them what they are.

IF the Big 3 are asked/decide to leave ECNL, what is most likely to happen to those players?  

Oh, I'm sure their clubs are already deciding that sales pitch.  Evil or Very Mad

My guess - back to LH or PPL.

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Post by ForReal 20/02/18, 09:47 am

Cleansheets wrote:Scatter into the wind. I'm sure those that don't make the u16/17 DA team will be herded into some "pilot" team to keep them within the club. Those that say no thanks will find another team, club. Whether it be ECNL or Classic. Regardless of what happens there will still be an ECNL presence in NTX.

That's a lot of players to scatter. Some might land ECNL spots, but not the majority. Looks like LH might get some stronger players back.

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Post by 5050Ball 20/02/18, 09:51 am

ForReal wrote:
Cleansheets wrote:
Zizou wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.
OMG! Will you please stop with the DA2 talk. You are the only person on here that keeps perpetuating that idea. There is not going to be a DA2 here in NTX. The only place I have even heard that phrase mentioned is on the SoCal forum. That out there is an entirely different beast and could support that concept. If you are refering to the pilot teams at FCD and Solar, then call them what they are.

IF the Big 3 are asked/decide to leave ECNL, what is most likely to happen to those players?  

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Post by ForReal 20/02/18, 09:52 am

U13s are going to see this problem magnified. At Big 3, 1 DA team, 1 ECNL team, 1-2 JDL teams. They drop ECNL and JDL goes away for age group (if not entirely anyways). At Sting and Feet, 1 ECNL team, 2 JDL teams. The pick up Champions League (for whatever that's worth without the Big 3, meaning tons of travel to STX), but still lose a spot for one team.

Lots of players looking for teams next year.

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Post by AtThePitch 20/02/18, 09:57 am

There will not be JDL next year...

The current number of ECNL clubs in NTX will not be increasing or staying the same... it will be shrinking.

Thats confirmed at one club at least for sure...

Bottom line... lots of kids looking for teams, less rosters to me means stronger teams... thats good for NTX.
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Post by KeeperCommander 20/02/18, 10:02 am

Perhaps it does make a more diluted playing field, but I cant see how. No JDL is no big loss. No ECNL at Big 3 is only bad for money loss. Those players who do not make or do not want to play DA might leave for an ECNL club. That is a ton of money walking out the door.

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Post by Zizou 20/02/18, 10:14 am

Yeah, I would think adding another ECNL club will be bad business for ECNL.

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Post by Guest 20/02/18, 10:23 am

It's just a game of musical chairs.  The size and quality of the player pool isn't changing, nor is the number of top clubs in NTX.

If the DA clubs aren't in ECNL, expect them to expand the "Pilot" teams in the even year age groups and put together a shadow league to DA in those age groups, call it Pilot, DA2, DPL, whatever. They'll essentially have a #1 team in each singular age year following DA practice guidelines.

Some of the kids playing ECNL at the DA clubs this year might bolt to Sting or D'Feeters.  The rest will end up LH or Champions League, where they are probably best served anyways.

The money train and player train will keep on a-rollin'.


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Post by NoSpinZone 20/02/18, 10:24 am

KeeperCommander wrote:Perhaps it does make a more diluted playing field, but I cant see how.  No JDL is no big loss.  No ECNL at Big 3 is only bad for money loss.  Those players who do not make or do not want to play DA might leave for an ECNL club.  That is a ton of money walking out the door.

The big 3 would come up with some fancy new name for the DA 'B' team to keep them due to $$'s. Sell dumb parents on the dream of being just so close to the DA team they covet.  Same parents be mad the next year when someone else comes in to take that DA spot and lil Mia is still on the 'B' team being sold the same dream.  When in reality it's all about $$$$$'s and most of the lil Mia's on the B team wont be making the DA team.  Like dorkfish to a corndog.

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Post by ForReal 20/02/18, 10:27 am

DeltaTauChi wrote:It's just a game of musical chairs.  The size and quality of the player pool isn't changing, nor is the number of top clubs in NTX.

If the DA clubs aren't in ECNL, expect them to expand the "Pilot" teams in the even year age groups and put together a shadow league to DA in those age groups, call it Pilot, DA2, DPL, whatever. They'll essentially have a #1 team in each singular age year following DA practice guidelines.

Some of the kids playing ECNL at the DA clubs this year might bolt to Sting or D'Feeters.  The rest will end up LH or Champions League, where they are probably best served anyways.

The money train and player train will keep on a-rollin'.

Will the Big 3 lose Champions League if they drop or are dropped from ECNL?

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Post by Guest 20/02/18, 10:30 am

ForReal wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:It's just a game of musical chairs.  The size and quality of the player pool isn't changing, nor is the number of top clubs in NTX.

If the DA clubs aren't in ECNL, expect them to expand the "Pilot" teams in the even year age groups and put together a shadow league to DA in those age groups, call it Pilot, DA2, DPL, whatever. They'll essentially have a #1 team in each singular age year following DA practice guidelines.

Some of the kids playing ECNL at the DA clubs this year might bolt to Sting or D'Feeters.  The rest will end up LH or Champions League, where they are probably best served anyways.

The money train and player train will keep on a-rollin'.

Will the Big 3 lose Champions League if they drop or are dropped from ECNL?

I'd be surprised, but I've also learned to never say never when it comes to these things.

There's mutual benefit to LH, US Club, and the DA clubs to keep their 2nd/3rd tier teams in Champions League.  If Champions League goes by the wayside, then those teams will migrate back to LH & USYSA PL.

That kind of regional play within TX/OK, along with the various non-DA, non-ECNL showcases like Texas Cup, DIGC, FC Dallas, Lonestar, etc. make sense from a college recruiting standpoint for those 2nd/3rd tier teams.

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Post by Zizou 20/02/18, 01:14 pm

Cleansheets wrote:
Zizou wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:My opinion for what its worth (not much), 5 ecnl was too many. Now w DA who knows.  I dont see ALL the top players choosing DA, so Sting and Feet could benefit. DA not as strong as could be, ECNL stronger than if all went DA.  Add in LP and  the talent gets diluted imho.  We would have 6 DA and ECNL teams, that is if DA clubs lose ECNL, if not 9 teams.  DFW doesnt have 9 teams of top players.  6 or more teams equals more watered down me.

I don’t even see NTX six teams deep in talent. Someone will take a huge hit. I’m pretty sure if ECNL kicks the DA clubs out you will see a DA2 program started.
OMG! Will you please stop with the DA2 talk. You are the only person on here that keeps perpetuating that idea. There is not going to be a DA2 here in NTX. The only place I have even heard that phrase mentioned is on the SoCal forum. That out there is an entirely different beast and could support that concept. If you are refering to the pilot teams at FCD and Solar, then call them what they are.

Sure, pilot da2 teams

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Post by Big Ern 20/02/18, 02:19 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:It's just a game of musical chairs.  The size and quality of the player pool isn't changing, nor is the number of top clubs in NTX.

If the DA clubs aren't in ECNL, expect them to expand the "Pilot" teams in the even year age groups and put together a shadow league to DA in those age groups, call it Pilot, DA2, DPL, whatever. They'll essentially have a #1 team in each singular age year following DA practice guidelines.

Some of the kids playing ECNL at the DA clubs this year might bolt to Sting or D'Feeters.  The rest will end up LH or Champions League, where they are probably best served anyways.

The money train and player train will keep on a-rollin'.


^ What he said.

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