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Post by KeeperCommander on 04/05/18, 10:39 am

Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat. At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

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Post by ForReal on 04/05/18, 10:44 am

KeeperCommander wrote:Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat.  At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

Good point. If some or all of the ECNL team doesn't take the DA spot (or even FDL) and most head to Solar, then what's the future of the 05s look like there? This year's DA team clearly struggled. Can they field a better DA team next year? Does Texans West (or bulk of them) become DA or FDL? Have they announced who is coaching those teams?

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Post by KeeperCommander on 04/05/18, 10:49 am

ForReal wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat.  At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

Good point.  If some or all of the ECNL team doesn't take the DA spot (or even FDL) and most head to Solar, then what's the future of the 05s look like there?  This year's DA team clearly struggled.  Can they field a better DA team next year?  Does Texans West (or bulk of them) become DA or FDL?  Have they announced who is coaching those teams?
Do we really think any will stay to take the DA spot, or will they leave and take the DA spot?

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Post by Lefty on 04/05/18, 11:01 am

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KeeperCommander wrote:Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat.  At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

Good point.  If some or all of the ECNL team doesn't take the DA spot (or even FDL) and most head to Solar, then what's the future of the 05s look like there?  This year's DA team clearly struggled.  Can they field a better DA team next year?  Does Texans West (or bulk of them) become DA or FDL?  Have they announced who is coaching those teams?

Think you may possibly be missing HN potential logic.

This is a business first and foremost.

He will have a DA Team next year, and the year after, and the year after, and it will generate the same amount of revenue if it finishes first or last.

If he can generate the same amount of revenue with a lot less headaches and turmoil from the employees (coaches) and customers (parents) involved why make it more complicated than it has to be.

Having a few extra teams would be nice, but all revenue options are not worth pursuing or keeping.

The cost benefit analysis (financial & emotional) makes it easy to say 'good luck elsewhere'.


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Post by Pele98 on 04/05/18, 11:05 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
ForReal wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat.  At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

Good point.  If some or all of the ECNL team doesn't take the DA spot (or even FDL) and most head to Solar, then what's the future of the 05s look like there?  This year's DA team clearly struggled.  Can they field a better DA team next year?  Does Texans West (or bulk of them) become DA or FDL?  Have they announced who is coaching those teams?
Do we really think any will stay to take the DA spot, or will they leave and take the DA spot?


Terrible in betting, I lose money all the time.  Will bet that ALL will leave and take DA spots at Solar.  That team has GA personality and without him, most if not all of, those players can not play.  Question will be do they stay together in DA or not if GA is not coaching?
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Post by KeeperCommander on 04/05/18, 11:09 am

Lefty wrote:
ForReal wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Probably would have been more profitably for HN to retreat.  At least he would have a future at the club to move up through the age groups.

Good point.  If some or all of the ECNL team doesn't take the DA spot (or even FDL) and most head to Solar, then what's the future of the 05s look like there?  This year's DA team clearly struggled.  Can they field a better DA team next year?  Does Texans West (or bulk of them) become DA or FDL?  Have they announced who is coaching those teams?

Think you may possibly be missing HN potential logic.

This is a business first and foremost.

He will have a DA Team next year, and the year after, and the year after, and it will generate the same amount of revenue if it finishes first or last.  

If he can generate the same amount of revenue with a lot less headaches and turmoil from the employees (coaches) and customers (parents) involved why make it more complicated than it has to be.

Having a few extra teams would be nice, but all revenue options are not worth pursuing or keeping.

The cost benefit analysis (financial & emotional) makes it easy to say 'good luck elsewhere'.

Business absolutely. Great business decision we will have to wait and see. Some of the best business decisions were not the most logical at the time. This is one of those instances. Will it pan out for him? Will not know for a little while. There is also a very bold statement you made up there. No promises made from the Fed.

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Post by 5050Ball on 04/05/18, 11:39 am

DeltaTauChi wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
Lefty wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:I am sure he will also consult this board before he goes wheels off again and drives away his best ever team. lol!

Kind of the way Pay to Play works.

Clubs and Coaches make out like bandits.

Uninformed or  Shocked naïve parents Shocked feed the monster.

Kids try and make the best of it.


Yeah.  I'm thinking the '99's might have a little something to say about KC's comment.
I don’t believe I said the 99’s were no good.  But if you think the 05’s were not going to take that crown you are crazy.

The Kenny Medina teams with Kerri Hanks that won a Nattie might have a say in that convo as well.

Yeah, that was the '85s. 88's and 3 in the 90's also won nattys. 92's twice. All of them older than U12 Very Happy
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Post by Guest on 04/05/18, 11:51 am

5050Ball wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
Lefty wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:I am sure he will also consult this board before he goes wheels off again and drives away his best ever team. lol!

Kind of the way Pay to Play works.

Clubs and Coaches make out like bandits.

Uninformed or  Shocked naïve parents Shocked feed the monster.

Kids try and make the best of it.


Yeah.  I'm thinking the '99's might have a little something to say about KC's comment.
I don’t believe I said the 99’s were no good.  But if you think the 05’s were not going to take that crown you are crazy.

The Kenny Medina teams with Kerri Hanks that won a Nattie might have a say in that convo as well.

Yeah, that was the '85s.  88's and 3 in the 90's also won nattys.  92's twice.  All of them older than U12   Very Happy

Uh oh. I've been out-Googled. Embarassed

Shhhhhhh. Don't let KC know. Wink

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Post by KeeperCommander on 04/05/18, 12:47 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
5050Ball wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
Lefty wrote:

Kind of the way Pay to Play works.

Clubs and Coaches make out like bandits.

Uninformed or  Shocked naïve parents Shocked feed the monster.

Kids try and make the best of it.


Yeah.  I'm thinking the '99's might have a little something to say about KC's comment.
I don’t believe I said the 99’s were no good.  But if you think the 05’s were not going to take that crown you are crazy.

The Kenny Medina teams with Kerri Hanks that won a Nattie might have a say in that convo as well.

Yeah, that was the '85s.  88's and 3 in the 90's also won nattys.  92's twice.  All of them older than U12   Very Happy

Uh oh.  I've been out-Googled.  Embarassed

Shhhhhhh.  Don't let KC know. Wink
I am sorry dt I forgot you were still here. You may go.

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Post by Bodhisattva on 04/05/18, 02:11 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
5050Ball wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:

Yeah.  I'm thinking the '99's might have a little something to say about KC's comment.
I don’t believe I said the 99’s were no good.  But if you think the 05’s were not going to take that crown you are crazy.

The Kenny Medina teams with Kerri Hanks that won a Nattie might have a say in that convo as well.

Yeah, that was the '85s.  88's and 3 in the 90's also won nattys.  92's twice.  All of them older than U12   Very Happy

Uh oh.  I've been out-Googled.  Embarassed

Shhhhhhh.  Don't let KC know. Wink
I am sorry dt I forgot you were still here.  You may go.

I appreciate the Tombstone reference sir.

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Post by Medicine Man on 04/05/18, 02:39 pm

The reindeer games continue.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 04/05/18, 03:11 pm

Bodhisattva wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
5050Ball wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
I don’t believe I said the 99’s were no good.  But if you think the 05’s were not going to take that crown you are crazy.

The Kenny Medina teams with Kerri Hanks that won a Nattie might have a say in that convo as well.

Yeah, that was the '85s.  88's and 3 in the 90's also won nattys.  92's twice.  All of them older than U12   Very Happy

Uh oh.  I've been out-Googled.  Embarassed

Shhhhhhh.  Don't let KC know. Wink
I am sorry dt I forgot you were still here.  You may go.

I appreciate the Tombstone reference sir.
Tombstone is a great movie but the ‘99 were better right Delta.

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Post by Chuck D on 04/05/18, 03:15 pm

Medicine Man wrote:The reindeer games continue.

YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH BOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Medicine Man on 04/05/18, 08:19 pm

quote from Flava Flav: 'I can't do nuttin' for you man Go lean on shells answer man I can't do nuttin' for ya man You jumped out of the jelly into a jam'

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Post by Chuck D on 04/05/18, 09:53 pm

Medicine Man wrote:quote from Flava Flav: 'I can't do nuttin' for you man Go lean on shells answer man I can't do nuttin' for ya man You jumped out of the jelly into a jam'

So get up, get get get down. F-D-L is a joke in yo town.
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Post by Zizou on 04/05/18, 10:33 pm

Meth man has taken over another account.


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Post by Medicine Man on 05/05/18, 05:38 am

Zizou what do the parents at these clubs think about it all. Are they excited? More money means more problems, good stuff. Rock paper scissors.

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Post by Cosmic Niner on 05/05/18, 07:23 am

Zizou wrote:Meth man has tacken* over another account.

tongue *nekaT

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Post by Medicine Man on 05/05/18, 07:38 am

Rock paper scissors.

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Post by Pulga De Perro on 08/05/18, 09:29 am

goscore! wrote:
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Could very well be, but I also think that will happen after stripping South bare to beef up Solar's DA/DA2.

shhhhhhhh......

From what I've heard, South has already been stripped bare, and it's not to beef up Solar.  Beware of acquiring damaged goods.


So, what is the REAL story coming out from the South? 
I heard SA/GA had meetings with parents and players yesterday and lots of parents came out unsatisfied from the sales pitch.  From what I heard, things like leaving a guaranteed spot to go for potential tryouts is eating some of them alive, not to mention the 1-hour drive to the new practice location.

Anybody with more insight?


I attended the GA meeting yesterday with LH parents. 
All I can say is GA sold us BS about the FDL and DA crap.  I don't buy any of his explanations and the timeline does not fit.  He said Texans told him or SA on FRIDAY that no ECNL he is on his own and by Monday he already had a deal with SOLAR for himself, SA and our LH coach to bring his 04/05/06 players and get a pick of Solar's DA or FDL? The South ECNL parents got the news on Saturday and Texans emails went out on Sunday to ECNL parents. Either Solar is really desperate to get the GA/SA combo or GA/SA wanted to use South to milk the Texans, it backfired.
Why would GA gladly accept a Solar FDL while the Texans offered him a Texans FDL and he declined? Texans FDL means none of the South players have to move and he keeps his D1 bye too.  Solar FDL means every South player have to fight for a spot with tons of other Solar players, D1 bye stays with Texans.  Same for DA too for those who care about DA. Lots of girls will be left in the cold.  Doesn't make any sense.   This from a guy who says he cares about our girls and it is not about him.

Don't get me started on D1 college recruitment, practice locations, fees going up, new uniforms and kits, more travels, and a bunch more BS from GA.

Staying with Texans wasn't an option for the teams as they were. Hassan would swoop in and pick them apart, all the ones HN decides are good enough, moved up to Ross Stewart on the DA or FDL, coached by Hassan.


It is happening already although it is not HN who is doing the 'Swoop in and pick them apart'.  The sheep matched themselves to the slaughterhouse, now the picking has begun.  Sky is BLUE and beautiful.  Next stop JPII.

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Post by Pulga De Perro on 14/05/18, 01:13 pm

Las maravillas nunca cesan.

A lot of 05 south girls blindly followed SA/GA to Solar.  It turns out now that while all of them are being told to show for try outs, some are being told not to worry they have the spots.  Why then are you still lying about try outs if some have already being told they are in? Solar ECNL is pretty much full, DA is more than half done, FDL same thing.

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Post by soccertard on 14/05/18, 01:34 pm

Blindly? I've never seen a blind soccer player.
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Post by BigKickKiddo on 14/05/18, 01:35 pm

-All have been told to come to tryouts
-Some have been told they have a spot already
-"Pretty Much Full"
-"Half Full"

How many girls came over???
Solar has DA, ECNL, FDL teams with probably 18 each to my knowledge, I seriously doubt they brought 54 '05 girls with them....

Sounds like normal workings here, move along
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Post by Medicine Man on 14/05/18, 01:42 pm

quote from Flava Flav: 'I can't do nuttin' for you man Go lean on shells answer man I can't do nuttin' for ya man You jumped out of the jelly into a jam'

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Post by Guest on 14/05/18, 02:35 pm

Everyone in Solar 05 DA and DTS 05 is promised a spot on DA roster !
Only 10 can play apart from goalie.
Smart 05s are headed to FCD and Texan DA tryouts before it’s too late.

Udontseeme wrote:-All have been told to come to tryouts
-Some have been told they have a spot already
-"Pretty Much Full"
-"Half Full"

How many girls came over???
Solar has DA, ECNL, FDL teams with probably 18 each to my knowledge, I seriously doubt they brought 54 '05 girls with them....

Sounds like normal workings here, move along

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Post by BigKickKiddo on 14/05/18, 02:54 pm

Yes, the children play 11v11, but there are more than 11 on a roster.....

I highly doubt that every single Solar 05 Player and DTS 05 player was "Promised" a DA Roster Spot. Im sure the conversation went something like We will Be playing DA/ECNL/FDL(DA2) we will have a spot for your DD. We will be coaching and they can stay with us on those teams. Guaranteed that between DA and FDL there is plenty of spots for those players. Again 18 roster spots minimum on 3 teams, still dont see 54 players on the DTS 05 and Solar DA 05 teams combined, hence the tryouts.

Its simple math that does this one in.
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