TEXANS / FC Dallas out of ECNL

timmyh wrote:

NoSpinZone wrote:

BENDMEOVER wrote:If they do leave ECNL is would definitely devalue the league here locally.

Yeah, I'm sure ECNL would miss those 8th place teams.

I can't imagine FCD would voluntarily give up ECNL. That would make very little sense to me.

I also can't imagine ECNL would boot FCD. They aren't likely to meet the written requirements for remaining ECNL (even Solar isn't a lock to meet them) and are bottom half of the standings, but are competitive and much better than clubs like Sting Austin or OK Celtic.  

Maybe I am naive, but I predict status quo for 2019-2020.

n D'Feeters can beat up our B-teams to make them feel better.

EVERYBODY wins!!!

The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

Funny you say that. Quite the opposite of what you say on the Oklahoma forum. You're the biggest ECNL homer out there.

Just want it to go back to the good ol days when all of the top clubs were together in one place. The quality of the league back then was MUCH better than either league today. This can happen again if the leaders in NTX want it to happen.

ForReal wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

Funny you say that. Quite the opposite of what you say on the Oklahoma forum. You're the biggest ECNL homer out there.

Oklahoma has a forum?

918soccer wrote:Just want it to go back to the good ol days when all of the top clubs were together in one place. The quality of the league back then was MUCH better than either league today. This can happen again if the leaders in NTX want it to happen.

All the top clubs are together in one place!

FC Dallas n Solar r the best and we're together in DA n then theirs all the other clubs in ECNL that get to play against our B teams.

DeltaTauChi wrote:

ForReal wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

Funny you say that. Quite the opposite of what you say on the Oklahoma forum. You're the biggest ECNL homer out there.

Oklahoma has a forum?

I    DTX!

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

This'n ^ got me a wonderin' ...

Sincerely ... Are there any in NTX that have more general depth than FCD?

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

This'n ^ got me a wonderin' ...

Sincerely ... Are there any in NTX that have more general depth than FCD?

Spot on BigE.  Numbers don’t lie.  Nobody has anywhere close to the number of PPL teams that FCD has.

In terms of quality depth, hard to dispute that anyone other than Solar in TX has been able to put competitive teams in both DA and ECNL the past 2 years.  Maybe,maybe the Lonestar monopoly could, but that’s about it.

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

This'n ^ got me a wonderin' ...

Sincerely ... Are there any in NTX that have more general depth than FCD?

Your so silly Ernie!

We have way more teams then the other clubs bcuz we're the best.  Did you see how we beat the pants off Solar last weekend?

DeltaTauChi wrote:

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still shit.

So the depth of the two leagues is shit...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

This'n ^ got me a wonderin' ...

Sincerely ... Are there any in NTX that have more general depth than FCD?

Spot on BigE.  Numbers don’t lie.  Nobody has anywhere close to the number of PPL teams that FCD has.

In terms of quality depth, hard to dispute that anyone other than Solar in TX has been able to put competitive teams in both DA and ECNL the past 2 years.  Maybe,maybe the Lonestar monopoly could, but that’s about it.

As I've always said DTX ... In my opinion, more than half of the 'competitive' soccer players out there paying club dues shouldn't be, and, for those kids, FCD is generally the club for parents that don't know any better.  I honestly don't know much about FCD's PPL participation, but would guess that, if there are a bunch, it's due to that.

And, in effort to continue along with the 'to be honest' and 'number's don't lie' mantra, I actually was referring to quality depth in my previous post.  I had 15 minutes to kill so dug this up ...

Based on current ECNL TX and FPDL Standings, Solar's average position is 3.9, and FCD's is 4.6 ... not terrible considering, right?  

Couple that ^ with Solar GDA having an average position of 2.0, with FCD GDA being at 2.3, and I guess you've answered my question ... Solar has a bit more quality depth (at least on the girl's side).

Let's see...

ECNL avg position - Sting Dallas 1, D'Feeters 2, Solar 3 . . . FC Dallas 8 (out of 10) - behind TSC, AHFC, Challenge and Classics (though I guess kudos are in order for beating out Sting Austin and Oklahoma Energy).

FPDL avg position - Texans 1, Solar 2 . . . FCD 4 (out of 6), barely edging out Houston Dash.

Now color me impressed if that is what qualifies as "quality depth"


Puts that disparity between Solar's 3.69 and FC Dallas's 4.69 into a little differernt perspective, don't cha think?

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

Thank you for correcting my foul language. I usually don’t use such language...but when I do it’s usually about fcd or BigErn and their *Yet another bad word*show.

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

Thank you for correcting my foul language. I usually don’t use such language...but when I do it’s usually about fcd or BigErn and their *Yet another bad word*show.

Awwww your so nice Foxymomma!

Our B teamers are sweethearts. Every once in a while one of the ECNL or PPL players gets good enough that our coach will let them play with the DA. It's such a joy to watch their little faces light up when they realize they've made it to the top!

SickofStupidity wrote:Let's see...

ECNL avg position - Sting Dallas 1, D'Feeters 2, Solar 3 . . . FC Dallas 8 (out of 10) - behind TSC, AHFC, Challenge and Classics (though I guess kudos are in order for beating out Sting Austin and Oklahoma Energy).

FPDL avg position - Texans 1, Solar 2 . . . FCD 4 (out of 6), barely edging out Houston Dash.

Now color me impressed if that is what qualifies as "quality depth"


Puts that disparity between Solar's 3.69 and FC Dallas's 4.69 into a little differernt perspective, don't cha think?

Math might not be your thing. Stick to the complaining about everything, you are really good at that.

Hooper214 wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

Thank you for correcting my foul language. I usually don’t use such language...but when I do it’s usually about fcd or BigErn and their *Yet another bad word*show.

Awwww your so nice Foxymomma!

Our B teamers are sweethearts. Every once in a while one of the ECNL or PPL players gets good enough that our coach will let them play with the DA. It's such a joy to watch their little faces light up when they realize they've made it to the top!

You sound a lot like that crazy  fcd coach that used to come on here recruiting for his ppl teams.  That you crazy p?

SickofStupidity wrote:Let's see...

ECNL avg position - Sting Dallas 1, D'Feeters 2, Solar 3 . . . FC Dallas 8 (out of 10) - behind TSC, AHFC, Challenge and Classics (though I guess kudos are in order for beating out Sting Austin and Oklahoma Energy).

FPDL avg position - Texans 1, Solar 2 . . . FCD 4 (out of 6), barely edging out Houston Dash.

Now color me impressed if that is what qualifies as "quality depth"


Puts that disparity between Solar's 3.69 and FC Dallas's 4.69 into a little differernt perspective, don't cha think?

Let me ask you something SoSy ... Did you have the whole fifteen to kill, or just a minute or two?  Seems a lot like the latter given that you were only able to look up one, maybe two age groups.  Guessing you took more time to BOLD out that 6 and 9?  

No worries though ...

Unless you had a point here (my apologies if you did and I missed it) ... Surely it wasn't that Texans, Sting, or D'Feeters had more quality depth than Solar or FCD.  If so, then you're well on your way to regaining your title  

Well BigE - aside from the fact that those West Texas schools apparently don't teach math (since Solar's average is 3.69 NOT 3.9 . . . and you don't round 4.69 to 4.6)...

Just wanted to note how impressed I was with the "quality" depth of 8th out of 10 and 4th out of 6... or what appears to be "quality" in your mind.

Just in case you are confused -

Solar's ECNL placements are 5, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 4
FPDL placements are 1, 4, 2, 5, 4, 2

Total - 48 - divided by 13 = 3.69

purty simple stuff

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Hooper214 wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

918soccer wrote:The "my league is better than your league" discussion is getting a little tired. When will Solar and FCD end the insanity and get all of the top clubs from Texas together?? The truth is, it doesn't matter which league has the best 2 or 3 teams, the depth of both leagues is still **bad word**.

So the depth of the two leagues is **bad word**...just like the depth of FCD. So what.

Thank you for correcting my foul language. I usually don’t use such language...but when I do it’s usually about fcd or BigErn and their *Yet another bad word*show.

Awwww your so nice Foxymomma!

Our B teamers are sweethearts. Every once in a while one of the ECNL or PPL players gets good enough that our coach will let them play with the DA. It's such a joy to watch their little faces light up when they realize they've made it to the top!

You sound a lot like that crazy  fcd coach that used to come on here recruiting for his ppl teams.  That you crazy p?

My lil lovebug started out with one of those ppl teams n with a lotta hard work n some great coaching she worked her way all the way to the DA team.

SickofStupidity wrote:Well BigE - aside from the fact that those West Texas schools apparently don't teach math (since Solar's average is 3.69 NOT 3.9 . . . and you don't round 4.69 to 4.6)...

Just wanted to note how impressed I was with the "quality" depth of 8th out of 10 and 4th out of 6... or what appears to be "quality" in your mind.

Awww SoSy ... tisk, tisk.  Remember Sir -- musn't get too personal here.  We don't want to have another one of our talks do we?

For those of you still following, the numbers I posted are accurate for the relevant age groups (didn't look at the U13s in either of 'em, nor the 'Composite' in ECNL ... only had the 15 minutes and that woulda taken 20 + IMO 12 year olds aren't relevant to my argument).

Buuut, noted ... sooo ... anyway ...
Do you wanna continue to dance around it citing fractions, or are ya gonna craft an argument countering my (and it appears other's on this particular thread) glaringly obvious stance?

(just in cases you're still wondering, it was that Solar and FCD have more quality depth than Texans, Sting and D'Feeters)

Fannn-Tastic then!

Not sure if you really are that terrible at math, or just being dishonest.

If you don't include the U13 in either group, nor the composite (as you cherry-picked your stats) - Solar's total is 38 - divided by 10 = 3.8, not 3.9 (holy moly those are some simple addition and division skills you seem to be lacking).

FC Dallas would be 4.7, not 4.6.  (I'll go s-l-o-w for your here . . . 47 divided by 10 is 4.7.)

You tried to use your fake math to establish that FCD's depth was "quality" and comparable to Solar.  No one ever mentioned that the depth of other clubs was on par with FCD or Solar.  But to use your numbers to support that argument that FCD's "quality" depth is comparable to Solar?  

Like I said, if 8th out of 10 in ECNL and 4th out of 6 in FDL is "quality" depth, then count me as impressed.  (or 5th in FDL if you don't count 12 year-olds in your "depth" measurement)

It would be bad for soccer if ECNL dropped FC Dallas!! The girls need to hone their skills in a fun low pressure league before they move to the big show where winning really matters. We love love love the way FC Dallas uses ECNL to get players ready for the DA.

SickofStupidity wrote:Just in case you are confused -

Solar's ECNL placements are 5, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 4
FPDL placements are 1, 4, 2, 5, 4, 2

Total - 48 - divided by 13 = 3.69

purty simple stuff

And FCD is:
ECNL: 7, 8, 6, 9, 2, 4, 5
FDL: 2, 5, 3, 2, 2, 6

Total 61 - 4.69

I am too lazy to look at LHD1, but I imagine Solar has a few more competitive teams there, too.

The two are pretty dead even in DA and pretty dead even in FDL. Solar is clearly better in ECNL.

Both are deep. Both are top 10 clubs in the country. But Solar has the edge.

timmyh wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:Just in case you are confused -

Solar's ECNL placements are 5, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 4
FPDL placements are 1, 4, 2, 5, 4, 2

Total - 48 - divided by 13 = 3.69

purty simple stuff

And FCD is:
ECNL: 7, 8, 6, 9, 2, 4, 5
FDL: 2, 5, 3, 2, 2, 6

Total 61 - 4.69

I am too lazy to look at LHD1, but I imagine Solar has a few more competitive teams there, too.

The two are pretty dead even in DA and pretty dead even in FDL. Solar is clearly better in ECNL.

Both are deep. Both are top 10 clubs in the country. But Solar has the edge.

One league has 10 other 6..so apples to oranges to combine. 4.69 means nothing trash number. No Stat majors here.