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Post by For Fuchs Sake 14/05/18, 02:12 pm

I disagree....I know many coaches that act appropriately. He has a control issue.when thins don’t go his way, he throws fits! Also, thinks way to highly of himself. Most coaches do but he takes it next level.

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Post by db10 14/05/18, 02:30 pm

For Fuchs Sake wrote:I disagree....I know many coaches that act appropriately.  He has a control issue.when thins don’t go his way, he throws fits!  Also, thinks way to highly of himself.  Most coaches do but he takes it next level.

No doubt it can get extreme, but I think if you look at the "top" coaches in the age group you'll see issues all around. Not saying any of it is right, just that it's not as isolated as we all think.

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Post by Foxysoccermom 14/05/18, 02:51 pm

db10 wrote:So I'm not trying to slam or defend here but it's interesting how the anti JK crew always seems to show around May. I wonder if he typically loses it, the girls are tired and cranky, or people just get out their axes to grind.

I will say this, for every girl that doesn't want or can't survive JK there's one that would go back and be coached by him again in a heartbeat.

Also, I find that the issue seems to be with his language not the fact he loses his temper in great over the top slightly "off his meds way". Why, Is it because most coaches lose their temper? Well I can tell you this, not only does your U15 girl sit there yelling F this and you're a @#$% to the opposing players more time thans not, the average coach does the same. My daughter has played for 5 coaches, all but one cursed in front of the players.

I like the way you roll db. If someone's kid isn't dropping the f bomb or calling other players b#*#hes then send them over to foxys trailer and I'll teach them how to be trash on the field.
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Post by db10 14/05/18, 03:02 pm

Foxysoccermom wrote:
db10 wrote:So I'm not trying to slam or defend here but it's interesting how the anti JK crew always seems to show around May. I wonder if he typically loses it, the girls are tired and cranky, or people just get out their axes to grind.

I will say this, for every girl that doesn't want or can't survive JK there's one that would go back and be coached by him again in a heartbeat.

Also, I find that the issue seems to be with his language not the fact he loses his temper in great over the top slightly "off his meds way". Why, Is it because most coaches lose their temper? Well I can tell you this, not only does your U15 girl sit there yelling F this and you're a @#$% to the opposing players more time thans not, the average coach does the same. My daughter has played for 5 coaches, all but one cursed in front of the players.

I like the way you roll db. If someone's kid isn't dropping the f bomb or calling other players b#*#hes then send over to foxys trailer and I'll teach them how to be trash on the field.

My favorite is a defender we played who liked to call our girls "c@#ts"...Stay classy North Texas. Of course I remember walking by a certain LP coach who called our girls "scum" and "idiots" when they were 11. So no, I have to misconceptions about the holiness of our soccer world.

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Post by Foxysoccermom 14/05/18, 03:15 pm

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db10 wrote:So I'm not trying to slam or defend here but it's interesting how the anti JK crew always seems to show around May. I wonder if he typically loses it, the girls are tired and cranky, or people just get out their axes to grind.

I will say this, for every girl that doesn't want or can't survive JK there's one that would go back and be coached by him again in a heartbeat.

Also, I find that the issue seems to be with his language not the fact he loses his temper in great over the top slightly "off his meds way". Why, Is it because most coaches lose their temper? Well I can tell you this, not only does your U15 girl sit there yelling F this and you're a @#$% to the opposing players more time thans not, the average coach does the same. My daughter has played for 5 coaches, all but one cursed in front of the players.

I like the way you roll db. If someone's kid isn't dropping the f bomb or calling other players b#*#hes then send over to foxys trailer and I'll teach them how to be trash on the field.

My favorite is a defender we played who liked to call our girls "c@#ts"...Stay classy North Texas. Of course I remember walking by a certain LP coach who called our girls "scum" and "idiots" when they were 11. So no, I have to misconceptions about the holiness of our soccer world.


I'm down wit dat. When someone goes low you teach your kid to go lower. Call her a b...slap back with the c word. That's what I'm talkin about.
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Post by soccertard 15/05/18, 11:16 am

Who's not teaching their Red Card players to use all that Christian language by 14/15? You people need to get a leg up on this. I've been teaching Suzy Soccer Star all of this for years. Every night of the week we pick a letter out of the alphabet and go over the possibilities. Soccer Spelling B.

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Post by Jugglemaster 15/05/18, 11:15 pm

And he is still the coach. What happened to that board review

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Post by Medicine Man 16/05/18, 07:19 am

At the end of the day the club does nothing.

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Post by For Fuchs Sake 16/05/18, 09:34 am

Nothing to see here people. He gets away with it again. Keep this active, and maybe something will occur. Koolaid drinkers piss me off

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Post by SocDad 16/05/18, 09:42 am

Ok....so now my curiosity has gotten the best of me.....I wanna read this "Infamous letter"

Where can one find it?
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Post by 04Soccer 16/05/18, 11:15 am

From the temper tantrums to the most hateful of words, it will continue as long as people are willing to let their kids play for him. This is not the first year, for those of you that know. Among this last year, it was Hey, lets cancel practices, secretly text and email certain players from the team to go practice with Solar , each week, even though the ECNL season was not.over.
Both clubs knew this was not right, yet closed their eyes and pretended nothing was going on.. So it doesn't shock me, no action was taken this time.
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Post by Big Ern 16/05/18, 12:12 pm

For Fuchs Sake wrote:Nothing to see here people.  He gets away with it again.  Keep this active, and maybe something will occur.  Koolaid drinkers piss me off

Speaking of ...

For fuch's sake!

Wink

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Post by db10 16/05/18, 02:06 pm

Not the only coach who loses his temper.

Not the only coach who can be demeaning to his players.

Not the only coach who curses.

Not the only coach who recruits players.

At this point the whole world knows these coaches. Don't want to deal with it don't let your kid play for him / them.

However, please tell me which "top coach" in this age group has a squeaky rep? Pulp? LW? JK?, GA? so on and so forth. People play for them because they're willing to put up with the "abuse" for the wins, development, or letters behind the team's name.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee 16/05/18, 02:58 pm

db10 wrote:Not the only coach who loses his temper.

Not the only coach who can be demeaning to his players.

Not the only coach who curses.

Not the only coach who recruits players.

At this point the whole world knows these coaches. Don't want to deal with it don't let your kid play for him / them.

However, please tell me which "top coach" in this age group has a squeaky rep? Pulp? LW? JK?, GA? so on and so forth. People play for them because they're willing to put up with the "abuse" for the wins, development, or letters behind the team's name.


Right about that....

Some have been witnesses but haven't actually been victims of....
Somehow, these coaches know who and who not to mess with like that. There are parents that dont believe in writing letters and following the manuscript in reprimanding coaches and rather follow the "vigilante" approach and address it themselves.

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Post by Medicine Man 16/05/18, 03:18 pm

Any parent that is a certified attorney that would work pro bono are the untouchables.

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Post by Jugglemaster 16/05/18, 10:11 pm

Someone mentioned a board review. Anyone know if it happened? Would like to see the minutes of that hearing.

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Post by Soccer Reeks 17/05/18, 08:23 am

we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?
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Post by Big Ern 17/05/18, 08:42 am

Soccer Reeks wrote:we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?

Nope.  Personally, I like the guy and have a lot of respect for him as a coach.  

Regardless of whether or not you think you know him or the real details of what went down, posting stuff like this on a public forum is both deplorable and irresponsible.

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Post by passingthrough 17/05/18, 09:31 am

Soccer Reeks wrote:we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?

As a parent, I've been on the receiving end of his intimidation tactics and attacks. He torments parents and their children, using coarse language in addition to more serious calculated psychological manipulation.

Families who believe "he's a real nice guy" have just not yet become a target of his deliberate, spiteful attacks. If they choose to allow their daughter to continue playing for him, they will no doubt ultimately meet the man who is vindictive, malicious, and cruel. To him, everyone's child is disposable once he makes them his target, no matter how bright, respectful, kind, or gifted they may be.

If you're a parent of a current player, I urge you think twice about allowing your daughter to spend more time under his 'care.' If you've been lucky enough to have a child miss out on his 'mentoring,' I'd suggest you keep it that way, and consider how hurtful and damaging your own comments are having no first-hand experience with him.

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Post by mixitup 17/05/18, 09:37 am

Big Ern wrote:
Soccer Reeks wrote:we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?

Nope.  Personally, I like the guy and have a lot of respect for him as a coach.  

Regardless of whether or not you think you know him or the real details of what went down, posting stuff like this on a public forum is both deplorable and irresponsible.

Completely agree, Big. I swear, the parents act like bigger babies than the kids! Hiding behind a forum to get what they want and not what they deserve.

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Post by mixitup 17/05/18, 09:44 am

passingthrough wrote:
Soccer Reeks wrote:we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?

As a parent, I've been on the receiving end of his intimidation tactics and attacks. He torments parents and their children, using coarse language in addition to more serious calculated psychological manipulation.

Families who believe "he's a real nice guy" have just not yet become a target of his deliberate, spiteful attacks. If they choose to allow their daughter to continue playing for him, they will no doubt ultimately meet the man who is vindictive, malicious, and cruel. To him, everyone's child is disposable once he makes them his target, no matter how bright, respectful, kind, or gifted they may be.

If you're a parent of a current player, I urge you think twice about allowing your daughter to spend more time under his 'care.' If you've been lucky enough to have a child miss out on his 'mentoring,' I'd suggest you keep it that way, and consider how hurtful and damaging your own comments are having no first-hand experience with him.

As an adult, how were you on the receiving end of his intimidation? If things were/are as bad as some are saying, I'd march my a$$ into the Solar office and DEMAND to speak to AS or someone above him. Feelings get hurt and folks overreact. As the parent you need to set expectations just like JK does. If you don't, then don't complain. Just my $.02

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Post by Son_ofa_Pitch 17/05/18, 10:13 am

^^^^^^
Easier said than done. These days its like pulling teeth to get a release. Wouldn't you feel cheated if the season started, then "IF" all this say so happened, and you dropped $3500 in full .. You can "EXPECT" not receiving monetary payment back.. Just my $.02
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Post by 5050Ball 17/05/18, 10:29 am

passingthrough wrote:
Soccer Reeks wrote:we all agree that Joey shouldn't be within 200 yards of a park with kids right?

As a parent, I've been on the receiving end of his intimidation tactics and attacks. He torments parents and their children, using coarse language in addition to more serious calculated psychological manipulation.

Families who believe "he's a real nice guy" have just not yet become a target of his deliberate, spiteful attacks. If they choose to allow their daughter to continue playing for him, they will no doubt ultimately meet the man who is vindictive, malicious, and cruel. To him, everyone's child is disposable once he makes them his target, no matter how bright, respectful, kind, or gifted they may be.

If you're a parent of a current player, I urge you think twice about allowing your daughter to spend more time under his 'care.' If you've been lucky enough to have a child miss out on his 'mentoring,' I'd suggest you keep it that way, and consider how hurtful and damaging your own comments are having no first-hand experience with him.

Please explain how a soccer coach can intimidate and attack a parent. I get all the eunuchs that anonymously attack other kids, coaches, clubs on this blog, but this post truly mystifies me. Help me understand.
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Post by db10 17/05/18, 10:33 am

Who are these players and parents that join these teams without knowing who the coaches really are? Love him or hate him, Joey has been Joey since day one. Same goes for Lee, Pulp, and others. It's not like they're some nobody who just came on the scene and is coaching PPL. It's not a matter of if, but of when and how bad their wrath will be when it's your daughter's turn.

Bash JK all you want. He'll fill his team right back up with players. Simple truth is that very few coaches teach your daughter the game as well as he does. I've had three different coaches tell me that they know a girl he coached very quickly due to their work ethic and skill set. The only other coach I've heard this about is Lee.

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Post by Foxysoccermom 17/05/18, 11:47 am

db10 wrote:Who are these players and parents that join these teams without knowing who the coaches really are? Love him or hate him, Joey has been Joey since day one. Same goes for Lee, Pulp, and others. It's not like they're some nobody who just came on the scene and is coaching PPL. It's not a matter of if, but of when and how bad their wrath will be when it's your daughter's turn.

Bash JK all you want. He'll fill his team right back up with players. Simple truth is that very few coaches teach your daughter the game as well as he does. I've had three different coaches tell me that they know a girl he coached very quickly due to their work ethic and skill set. The only other coach I've heard this about is Lee.

Help ol foxy out d-bag, cause I don't know all the coaches. I've never heard these kind of things about the other 2 coaches you threw in with jk. Is foxy missing something?
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Post by db10 17/05/18, 12:57 pm

Foxysoccermom wrote:
db10 wrote:Who are these players and parents that join these teams without knowing who the coaches really are? Love him or hate him, Joey has been Joey since day one. Same goes for Lee, Pulp, and others. It's not like they're some nobody who just came on the scene and is coaching PPL. It's not a matter of if, but of when and how bad their wrath will be when it's your daughter's turn.

Bash JK all you want. He'll fill his team right back up with players. Simple truth is that very few coaches teach your daughter the game as well as he does. I've had three different coaches tell me that they know a girl he coached very quickly due to their work ethic and skill set. The only other coach I've heard this about is Lee.

Help ol foxy out d-bag, cause I don't know all the coaches.  I've never heard these kind of things about the other 2 coaches you threw in with jk. Is foxy missing something?

Point was simply, most of the guys have some form of baggage parents have issues with, temper, lack of loyalty, recruiting players, so on and so forth. Never meant to infer that they all suffered from the same affliction.

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