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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 09/05/18, 10:39 am

Here4thegossip wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
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Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred.

As for soccer knowledge, absolutely he has made my kid better.
Behaviorally, he has also taught them that people in places of authority do not need a reason to be unreasonable.

Interesting insight. Just curious, what was the language that was used? I assume you are saying he did not curse at the players, correct?

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Post by GetIt 09/05/18, 10:46 am

So that we understand..
"Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred"

Exactly what occurred except for the language used, as in he didn't use those words or you can not confirm that he used those words? I believe a large issue with the whole incident is the names he allegedly called the girls and the words he used. Kicking kids off a competitive team may or may not be abusive or wrong depending on the WHOLE story. But cursing them and degrading them with foul language is not ok.

However if he did not use those words, then how are we to believe much or any of the account, with salaciousness of the false narrative?

As someone who has been at this practice facility numerous times at when this team practices, it hard for me to see how this occured as stated when there is regularly 3-4 teams and at lest 20+ adults on site at all times. If this really occurred then WOW to all whole witnessed and/or investigated and turned a blind eye.
If it's not a true account then it's just sour grapes.

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Post by BigKickKiddo 09/05/18, 10:54 am

Love all these new ID's popping up on here, could they all be JK sitting at the house and creating profiles to defend himself? Maybe Im just a conspiracy theorist....

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Post by NotAllen04 09/05/18, 11:09 am

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Just here for the free buffet. Do you know where the forks are?
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Post by soccertard 09/05/18, 11:11 am

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Post by Here4thegossip 09/05/18, 11:26 am

GetIt wrote:So that we understand..
"Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred"

Exactly what occurred except for the language used, as in he didn't use those words or you can not confirm that he used those words? I believe a large issue with the whole incident is the names he allegedly called the girls and the words he used. Kicking kids off a competitive team may or may not be abusive or wrong depending on the WHOLE story. But cursing them and degrading them with foul language is not ok.

However if he did not use those words, then how are we to believe much or any of the account, with salaciousness of the false narrative?

As someone who has been at this practice facility numerous times at when this team practices, it hard for me to see how this occured as stated when there is regularly 3-4 teams and at lest 20+ adults on site at all times. If this really occurred then WOW to all whole witnessed and/or investigated and turned a blind eye.
If it's not a true account then it's just sour grapes.

To respond:

If the language is the only issue you take with what has been communicated. I'll happily tell you it would've made a sailor proud.
Did he use the term retard? no idea...
Did he berate teenage girls that had no understanding of what was going on, absolutely.

I can't speak to the specific language as I was not in the huddle with him and the girls. Solar has a parent corral I'm sure while attending practices you've noticed.

My grapes aren't sour, my kids are gone. My kids were the first to walk off after the "incident". We have our release and new team. It was a line we weren't OK with being crossed.

For anyone else, feel free to draw your own.

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Post by dreadpirateroberts 09/05/18, 01:37 pm

Nothing to see here.  Time to move on and give the boys’ side a look.

And as a sailor and a pirate/ I take offense kind sir to your comment above.

Just the Queen’s English for me SIR!

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Post by Medicine Man 09/05/18, 01:52 pm

It's definitely a poor representation to the public if the club turns their back on these types of situations.

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Post by Foxysoccermom 09/05/18, 01:54 pm

dreadpirateroberts wrote:Nothing to see here.  Time to move on and give the boys’ side a look.

And as a sailor and a pirate/ I take offense kind sir to your comment above.  

Just the Queen’s English for me SIR!



You shouldn't do humor. You're nothing butt pirate. Do you think you're a zephyr in the night.
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Post by adufresne 09/05/18, 02:12 pm

Here’s the deal-It is unfortunate the way things went down over the last couple of months. There was an incident similar to what was described, but there are a few versions of the story. I wasn’t there but my kid was. So I have to go by that version. Things were said, feelings were hurt, ties were broken. Some old, some new. Could’ve/should’ve been handled differently IMO, but nobody asked me. At the end of the day I think everybody achieved the result that they ultimately wanted so life goes on. I hated to see it play out like that tho. As far as Uncle Joey is concerned, he’s got his own methods that a lot of people don’t agree with including myself sometimes, but my kid will tell me when it’s time to move on and so will everyone else’s.

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Post by soccertard 09/05/18, 02:49 pm

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Post by Medicine Man 09/05/18, 04:13 pm

The earth is flat.

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Post by Pico 09/05/18, 05:23 pm

Confucius say… cross eyed trainer cannot control pupils.
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Post by Medicine Man 09/05/18, 06:42 pm

Gravity makes the apple fall from the tree.

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Post by Cosmic Niner 10/05/18, 02:27 pm

Medicine Man wrote:Gravity makes the apple fall from the tree.

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Post by Medicine Man 10/05/18, 03:16 pm

Ish kish my baloofa!

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Post by Soccer Reeks 11/05/18, 09:15 am

Are parents still sending their kids to play with Joey? Holy S***
Everyone knows he had an affair with an ex-player......oh wait, that was Beau Brown and the real reason why Sting swept it under the carpet shipping him to Austin overnight.

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Post by Medicine Man 11/05/18, 09:31 am

Ouch. That's a ball buster.

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Post by SickofStupidity 11/05/18, 10:03 am

Went to Austin looking for "fresh opportunities"

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Post by Medicine Man 11/05/18, 10:05 am

Loose lips sinks ships. Anchors awayyyyyy!

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Post by soccertard 11/05/18, 10:49 am

Any chance you could provide text message conversations between both parties involved in this alleged affair?

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Post by Medicine Man 12/05/18, 06:54 am

These clubs will take anyone for the almighty dollar. That tells you their moral standards dont mean much.

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Post by For Fuchs Sake 12/05/18, 11:25 am

Don’t let this die out..... keep it current. See how he treats people.

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Post by brazos 12/05/18, 11:54 am

This guy has a history so he will do it again and again.

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Post by For Fuchs Sake 12/05/18, 12:13 pm

If enough people...react.....things will change

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Post by Jugglemaster 12/05/18, 02:16 pm

How is this guy allowed to coach at all with a criminal record. Makes you wonder how many of their coaches have a record. They don’t seem to care.

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