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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:10 am

Did anyone catch the Angelone/Cosmos White game yesterday? The results are a bit surprising. Curious what transpired during the game.

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Post by KeepersBeCrazy on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:51 am

Based on gotsoccer game history, Cosmos White would have had to run from UTD when that game finished at 11:30 and get to Veterans to warm up and play at 12:30. Doable, but is that what really happened?

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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:08 pm

Good point. It seems like there must have been several teams running to and from UTD for JCL and the PIT for tournament games.

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Post by BodhiDalton on Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:28 pm

There were also several players running from field to field Smile
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Post by nTxsoccRfan on Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm

So, are you suggesting Cosmos White might’ve had some Cosmos Black players? ????
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Post by KeepersBeCrazy on Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:55 pm

It's soccer, so you never know how the ball rolls. Maybe White had a better than usual game while Angelone played like crap? Maybe some key Angelone players were sick, maybe it was the new Cosmos Grey team?
Whatever it was, the results are surprising.

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Post by BodhiDalton on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 pm

No I was not referring to Cosmos in any way. Observations from another organization. They still lost so all good.
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Post by nTxsoccRfan on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:17 pm

@BodhiDalton - I see.
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Post by ProphAC on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:14 pm

I’m an Angelone parent. It was definitely Cosmos Black playing including their best players which is their defense and goalie. Cosmos had no real offensive threat the entire game. It’s cool, guest players are expected in this league. We should have still scored but it was a disappointing game for us. It happens.
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Post by Eddyinmyyeti on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:27 pm

Looking at the league game results, it’s clear White had a much stronger defense in this game versus their other league games. A lot of teams share players when needed so not a shocker. Thanks for the insight Proph! With Angelone’s tie, Going forward, that division will be really interesting to watch. It’ll be a close race between the top 3.

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Post by Socc-It-To-Me on Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:04 pm

When are teams prohibited from using the same players on two different teams in the same league? Does that start next year?

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Post by ProphAC on Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:36 pm

Since Cosmos Black and White are in 2 different divisions, they can share as many players as they would like in this league. Somebody else can comment on how player sharing works as the girls get older. I’m no expert.
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Post by Cerv1973 on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:51 pm

July 1st is the first time for signings for the 09 age group. Once that happens then you must have permission to guest play. You can still player pass but if a player does so then they can only be on one roster in a given day with a max of three player passes. The answer to the question is it kinda stops next year but the reason the player pass was put in place was to help teams that may have an injury or other circumstance where they require more players. Or at least, that’s how I understand it.

Proph, here I thought you were a Colvin parent the whole time.

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Post by soccerfan09 on Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:45 pm

Why would the Black team play in place of the white team? What’s in it for each team (DC Black and DC white) and why would this be encouraged? What message does that send to the white teams kids and parents? “I’m going to let you sit this one out?”

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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 on Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:00 am

It has been said that the Cosmos white team had a semi final tournament game that conflicted with JCL or close enough to where it was going to make playing in both games difficult. From what I understand, a few of the top Solar teams continually stack the deck in tougher games, so I am sure they didn’t mind it being reciprocated.

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Post by soccerfan09 on Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:07 am

Oh yes I’ve heard and seen the “stacking” piece with some of Solar teams but checking got soccer looks like games were 2 hours apart, maybe an hour to get to UTD from PIT Plano (doable but not ideal), still trying to figure out what’s in it for each team if that’s what happened

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti on Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:35 am

I’m not sure this is really a case of stacking the team, cosmos white had potentially two games Sunday in a tourney that they had a chance to win, so it looks like they brought in some players from Cosmos Black so as not to wear out their tourney team. It makes sense for them. White has no chance to earn the bye in JGCL so why use their players up when they can instead win this tourney?

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti on Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:38 am

Also, I’m not sure I agree that the top teams from Solar or anywhere else “stack” their teams for harder games. From what I have seen all the top teams seem pretty consistent. A guest here or there to help with bench strength? Sure, but not to any real extreme. I’ve noticed some of the weaker teams may grab a strong player from a top team to help out but just not sure I’ve seen it much from the top teams.

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Post by soccerfan09 on Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:04 am

Oh I’m sure the “top” teams from Solar do stack on numerous occasions, adding anywhere from 2 to 3 to 4
“Guest” players can absolutely change the outcome of a game from tight loss, to tie, to a win... I wouldn’t minimize how using “guest/club” players would impact the score line of a game, even ProphAC is owning up to that

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Post by ProDallas on Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:25 am

Well, it was a soccer match and both teams had their chances to score, defend, etc. Both teams of girls fought hard and gave it their best effort. I don’t have a dd in this match, but I do believe the objective is to challenge the girls to continuously compete, face adversity and hopefully win...
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Post by ProphAC on Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:57 am

No use debating this.... have a great week everyone


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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 on Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:32 am

I can say for fact at least two of the top Solar teams bring in other top players for more challenging games. It is not a secret. They do it against other teams in their own club. Not a practice I am a fan of, but it definitely happens.

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Post by Tahoe08SoccerMom on Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:54 pm

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Post by SoccerNutjob on Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:27 pm

Which top 2 Solar teams? @butfirstsoccer09 I guess it will be a fun game this weekend when Colvin plays Angelone...time for both to borrow from South? Hahaha

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Post by BodhiDalton on Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:07 pm

Where did the long Cosmo's parent explanation go I wonder? Did I dream that they admitted that the black team played in the white team's place?
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