DKSC ECNL/ECRL U18/19 Tryout Sessions

tjones wrote:I would stay clear of this team and coach......excessive amount  of drama, players leaving left and right, and a coach AF who will tell you what you want to hear NOT
what is reality.     Would not recommend this coach to any young player EVER.  

AngelinaGoalee wrote:

tjones wrote:I would stay clear of this team and coach......excessive amount  of drama, players leaving left and right, and a coach AF who will tell you what you want to hear NOT
what is reality.     Would not recommend this coach to any young player EVER.  

I’ve heard and witnessed the total opposite, some parents won’t accept the truth.

tjones wrote:You must not be very close to the situation at all because you information is woefully inaccurate.
Closer than you think.


From my understanding, the team did not train much because literally every kid on the team played HS soccer and trained 5 days a week for 2 hours at HS, but if you you think they should train more on top of that, then you have a way different approach and opinion than the rest of the world.  

Fully aware they were all on HS soccer, and the time off started closer to Thanksgiving than it did for soccer season. But by all means, lets keep paying team dues for no practice.

The coach was asked during a team meeting according to many parents who were there, where is your priority and he said always with ECNL teams..............so your wrong again, he left an ECNL game to coach his long time L'pool team.   I dont see a big problem  with that however, but it is not remotely close to what he stated in the multi team meeting.     This coach is NOT forthright in his communication and a long history of it.  

Yes, I was there, but things happen and if you're that uptight about this one time, then this coach isn't for you.

And last and best of all, your a new coach and you tell your entire new team to go look for other options, BUT that is not really what you mean?   Are you serious?   That is a joke.    That is exactly the communication that is the history of this coach.    Not how we do it here in America.......playing mind games with players who have been on d'feeters teams for several seasons is one of the dumbest things I can ever imagine a coach doing.     Just not smart or exactly a great start to the "rebuilding process".  

Give a coaches name that doesn't play mind games!! They all do.

But your right, winning will fix it all, right?    This whole process is about winning?   Never seen a college soccer coach inquire about a player and asking what the team's record is..........never happens.    Never will    So if the entire goal is to win, then maybe he can do that.    What does that get you when your season is over, a trophy or ribbon?     This is a process and the prize of the process is college visibility as any of these players move forward into college soccer, if they have the ability.    
This coach has very little if any college coaching contacts, no college experience at all in fact, so if you goal is to win a few more games vs gain access to college soccer programs, then by all means saddle your  horse to the new coach and maybe he can win you a few more games and you feel really good.  

. Use the HUDL account and do your own recruiting. If you depend on one coach for college access, that's on you. I would hope you would be proactive instead of waiting for a coach to do all the recruiting for you.
Definitely winning isn't everything but it does help boost confidence in teammates. They have always been a great group of girls.

Again, wish him well just not the kind of coach many want in a very important time in their soccer career.     The previous response was all you need to know......."yes I left the ECNL game to coach my L'pool team, but we still won the ECNL game and I was not there."     So they won without you?
 hmmmmmm........what does that say about the impact you have.     But go ahead take credit for the win even though you were in the parking lot before the half was over.  

tjones wrote:Never seen a person spin an opinion from another person like you have.    Your man crush on this coach is noted by all.  

HUDL account........you think that gets you recruited?    Man,you have no clue how this works.   Certainly HUDL helps but College coaches get hundreds to thousands of emails and "hudl links" a year.      The majority are not opened or viewed not out of any coaches non-interest but because of limited time and this thing called SPAM mail.  Most of the emails they get are put into a database they use to invite kids to their college soccer camps.    

Sounds like you have it all figured out and are confident this team is in an ideal place.    I guess the
6-10 players leaving one of the teams this guys coaches means nothing in regards to the moral our confidence in the coach.    

There were something like 26 ECNL roster players on one of his teams yet they had 13 players at their ECNL game this weekend.   Do the math Einstein.  

Don't discount he stated publicly in front of 125 or so parents/players that ONLY 1-2 players on his l'pool team have the talent to play ECNL......ask anybody who was there.     How is that for vote of confidence from a coach who has coached you on a L'pool team for years.  

In fact, I was told he sat in front of the whole group an argued with 2 different parents in the meeting about his hate for HS soccer and that kids should not play at all.   And if they get injured playing HS soccer he has no mercy for them.   In his defense, he did not grow up here and as a result has really no clue about the joy most kids have playing HS soccer.  He just does not get it and said so defiantly in the meeting.  Just beware of that!!!

No clue when and how often they practiced during HS season, but if your paying dues month to month, then maybe you should have not paid during the months you were not practicing.   This is the same thing for every club and team during HS season (except DA).  

What I can tell you as best I can count, I asked about 9 people (players parents and other L'pool coaches) about this coach and ALL 9 were unfavorable ranging from they would never play for him to he is downright not trustworthy.    I could very well ask 9 more and they might say he is the greatest coach ever.........I have no idea what others think.   I just know what I have learned and asked from others who have had direct experience with this coach.  

I felt it would be appropriate to share this info with others given the time of the year.   You can argue, defend and further illustrate your man crush on this coach, but the information is as it is and what I have been told.       Everybody can make their own decisions on who they want to lead and coach their kids but be careful with what you are told and what you hear.  

That was sole the intent of the message.    

Nothing_but_net wrote:I will add, if you think the coach is in charge of recruiting, you will be disappointed wherever you go. It’s your kid’s responsibility to make the connections with the college coaches. They have to call and email and yes, the coaches do read those emails and respond, depending on the level. D1 and D2 coaches can also talk directly to your coaches (high school and club) and often do so, from our experience.

tjones wrote:Never seen a person spin an opinion from another person like you have.    Your man crush on this coach is noted by all.  

Man crush? You're funny!! Your first line in the post stated the word 'factual' so are they facts or opinions?

HUDL account........you think that gets you recruited?    Man,you have no clue how this works.   Certainly HUDL helps but College coaches get hundreds to thousands of emails and "hudl links" a year.      The majority are not opened or viewed not out of any coaches non-interest but because of limited time and this thing called SPAM mail.  Most of the emails they get are put into a database they use to invite kids to their college soccer camps.

HUDL is a tool given for you to use. It's up to you and your daughter to create the highlights and get those out there. Why do you think there was so much pressure to get them to the previous
coach prior to showcases? You know for a fact that emails would go to SPAM mail? What about ID camps? So many pathways to take to get into college..........    

Sounds like you have it all figured out and are confident this team is in an ideal place.    I guess the
6-10 players leaving one of the teams this guys coaches means nothing in regards to the moral our confidence in the coach.    

I'm sorry, did you miss the shuffle of players at the beginning of the season? All the ECNL girls sent to D1? Why did the 6-10 (are you sure on that number?) leave? I can think of 5 that left due to play time issues and 1 who decided not to play in college-- under the old coach.

There were something like 26 ECNL roster players on one of his teams yet they had 13 players at their ECNL game this weekend.   Do the math Einstein.
 
size=16]Well the ECNL website has 30 listed to be exact. Some went with old coach (dual rostered), some have left, and others are injured. Those were previous issues and not because AF has now taken over.  [/size]

Don't discount he stated publicly in front of 125 or so parents/players that ONLY 1-2 players on his l'pool team have the talent to play ECNL......ask anybody who was there.     How is that for vote of confidence from a coach who has coached you on a L'pool team for years.  

I was there!! I heard everything he said, I also remember everything the old coach promised as well. Bottom line, this is a business and if you are to believe EVERYTHING that comes from most coaches mouths then that's on you. Take everything with a grain of salt.

In fact, I was told he sat in front of the whole group an argued with 2 different parents in the meeting about his hate for HS soccer and that kids should not play at all.   And if they get injured playing HS soccer he has no mercy for them.   In his defense, he did not grow up here and as a result has really no clue about the joy most kids have playing HS soccer.  He just does not get it and said so defiantly in the meeting.  Just beware of that!!!

OOOHHH!! You were TOLD! Now I get it you weren't there. I remember it going something like this... He doens't mind if your DD plays high school sports, but if your DD happens to get injured, that opens the door for someone else to step up. Are coaches supposed to hold your DD spot when another DD is wanting to play just as bad? I think the same thing would happen if the DD was injured in a club game. It's the reality of sports. It would happen in college as well.  

No clue when and how often they practiced during HS season, but if your paying dues month to month, then maybe you should have not paid during the months you were not practicing.   This is the same thing for every club and team during HS season (except DA).  

So are you saying you don't pay your dues if your DD isn't practicing? Did you just admit that?

What I can tell you as best I can count, I asked about 9 people (players parents and other L'pool coaches) about this coach and ALL 9 were unfavorable ranging from they would never play for him to he is downright not trustworthy.    I could very well ask 9 more and they might say he is the greatest coach ever.........I have no idea what others think.   I just know what I have learned and asked from others who have had direct experience with this coach.  
So because of what you heard, people aren't supposed to give change a chance. Sorry things didn't work out for you but no point in dragging others through the mud. One day your DD may end up playing with DFeeters. Wouldn't want to burn any bridges.

I felt it would be appropriate to share this info with others given the time of the year.   You can argue, defend and further illustrate your man crush on this coach, but the information is as it is and what I have been told.       Everybody can make their own decisions on who they want to lead and coach their kids but be careful with what you are told and what you hear.  

There you go with the 'man crush' again. That's right, this time of year brings out the ugly in everyone vying for a spot on any team. We all do what we think is best for our DD, but for the most part, it's the DD decision and wanting to play where her friends are. You say be careful of what you hear so I suppose we should be cautious of what you are spouting off.

That was sole the intent of the message.    

HoldTheDoor wrote:

tjones wrote:Never seen a person spin an opinion from another person like you have.    Your man crush on this coach is noted by all.  

Man crush? You're funny!! Your first line in the post stated the word 'factual' so are they facts or opinions?

HUDL account........you think that gets you recruited?    Man,you have no clue how this works.   Certainly HUDL helps but College coaches get hundreds to thousands of emails and "hudl links" a year.      The majority are not opened or viewed not out of any coaches non-interest but because of limited time and this thing called SPAM mail.  Most of the emails they get are put into a database they use to invite kids to their college soccer camps.

HUDL is a tool given for you to use. It's up to you and your daughter to create the highlights and get those out there. Why do you think there was so much pressure to get them to the previous
coach prior to showcases? You know for a fact that emails would go to SPAM mail? What about ID camps? So many pathways to take to get into college..........    

Sounds like you have it all figured out and are confident this team is in an ideal place.    I guess the
6-10 players leaving one of the teams this guys coaches means nothing in regards to the moral our confidence in the coach.    

I'm sorry, did you miss the shuffle of players at the beginning of the season? All the ECNL girls sent to D1? Why did the 6-10 (are you sure on that number?) leave? I can think of 5 that left due to play time issues and 1 who decided not to play in college-- under the old coach.

There were something like 26 ECNL roster players on one of his teams yet they had 13 players at their ECNL game this weekend.   Do the math Einstein.
 
size=16]Well the ECNL website has 30 listed to be exact. Some went with old coach (dual rostered), some have left, and others are injured. Those were previous issues and not because AF has now taken over.  [/size]

Don't discount he stated publicly in front of 125 or so parents/players that ONLY 1-2 players on his l'pool team have the talent to play ECNL......ask anybody who was there.     How is that for vote of confidence from a coach who has coached you on a L'pool team for years.  

I was there!! I heard everything he said, I also remember everything the old coach promised as well. Bottom line, this is a business and if you are to believe EVERYTHING that comes from most coaches mouths then that's on you. Take everything with a grain of salt.

In fact, I was told he sat in front of the whole group an argued with 2 different parents in the meeting about his hate for HS soccer and that kids should not play at all.   And if they get injured playing HS soccer he has no mercy for them.   In his defense, he did not grow up here and as a result has really no clue about the joy most kids have playing HS soccer.  He just does not get it and said so defiantly in the meeting.  Just beware of that!!!

OOOHHH!! You were TOLD! Now I get it you weren't there. I remember it going something like this... He doens't mind if your DD plays high school sports, but if your DD happens to get injured, that opens the door for someone else to step up. Are coaches supposed to hold your DD spot when another DD is wanting to play just as bad? I think the same thing would happen if the DD was injured in a club game. It's the reality of sports. It would happen in college as well.  

No clue when and how often they practiced during HS season, but if your paying dues month to month, then maybe you should have not paid during the months you were not practicing.   This is the same thing for every club and team during HS season (except DA).  

So are you saying you don't pay your dues if your DD isn't practicing? Did you just admit that?

What I can tell you as best I can count, I asked about 9 people (players parents and other L'pool coaches) about this coach and ALL 9 were unfavorable ranging from they would never play for him to he is downright not trustworthy.    I could very well ask 9 more and they might say he is the greatest coach ever.........I have no idea what others think.   I just know what I have learned and asked from others who have had direct experience with this coach.  
So because of what you heard, people aren't supposed to give change a chance. Sorry things didn't work out for you but no point in dragging others through the mud. One day your DD may end up playing with DFeeters. Wouldn't want to burn any bridges.

I felt it would be appropriate to share this info with others given the time of the year.   You can argue, defend and further illustrate your man crush on this coach, but the information is as it is and what I have been told.       Everybody can make their own decisions on who they want to lead and coach their kids but be careful with what you are told and what you hear.  

There you go with the 'man crush' again. That's right, this time of year brings out the ugly in everyone vying for a spot on any team. We all do what we think is best for our DD, but for the most part, it's the DD decision and wanting to play where her friends are. You say be careful of what you hear so I suppose we should be cautious of what you are spouting off.

That was sole the intent of the message.    

Big Ern wrote:

Nothing_but_net wrote:I will add, if you think the coach is in charge of recruiting, you will be disappointed wherever you go. It’s your kid’s responsibility to make the connections with the college coaches. They have to call and email and yes, the coaches do read those emails and respond, depending on the level. D1 and D2 coaches can also talk directly to your coaches (high school and club) and often do so, from our experience.

That was ... until last Wednesday.