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Post by MadProps1234! Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm

Props to the teams and coaches that don’t take pad their rosters with players from other teams for the sole purpose of winning. Win as a team and lose as a team, but leave outcomes of games up to the actual legitimate players on teams. Hard to respect anything beyond that.

And no, I am not referring to teams with injured or sick players that do this every now in again when there is an actual need for numbers.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:31 pm

When player pass was voted IN by the LH’s board, Sting spoke strongly in favor of it. Dallas Texans also spoke in favor of it. FC Dallas said nothing. Solar said nothing. Feet said nothing.

Most of the room spoke against it. 2 hours worth of speaking against it........then the LH’s board voted it in.........and that’s all you need to know about the LH’s board.

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Post by Offsides Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:45 pm

If your kid is on a team and your coach is bringing in players from another team to win a game especially as an 09 and your kids playing time is impacted.. Run... It will only get worse. Reality check..

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Post by KeepersBeCrazy Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:55 pm

But the important question is...Did they win?
Kid playing time be damned...tell your kid to suck it up and take one for the team, literally.

Everyone knows it's about the W.

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Post by Offsides Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:57 pm

It would suck even worse if your coach uses guests and your team loses. You can discuss it at the next team bonding event.

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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm

Hard to know how good some of these teams actually are when they consistently bring players that have no intent of joining the team. While several teams do it, the one I believe this post may be about is rumored to have lost today.

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Post by Offsides Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:41 pm

Which team? There are a few top teams that swap players. I am thankfull our team does not and I would prefer to lose as a team than win as hodge podge group. Cant make the players or the parents feel good.

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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:24 pm

[quote="Offsides"]Which team? There are a few top teams that swap players. I am thankfull our team does not and I would prefer to lose as a team than win as hodge podge group. Cant make the players or the parents feel good.[/quote]

Exactly. Scores have been posted, so should be pretty easy to figure out.

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Post by yellowcard5 Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:46 pm

If a first place team can’t beat the 6th place team from another group, are the complaints really that valid?

Not sure there was much player passing. Looked much more like team swapping.

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Post by BENDMEOVER Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:07 pm

When player pass was voted IN by the LH’s board, Sting spoke strongly in favor of it. Dallas Texans also spoke in favor of it. The unspoken votes that for your perception. The historic timelines answer those perceptions.


These other clubs were just figuring it out and learning from the masters of deception and the real business model of NTX soccer. They were in control of the reindeer games.


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Post by MadProps1234! Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:15 pm

Yellowcard - I don’t think either of those teams are complaining. They are both had full squads today. 😂

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Post by BENDMEOVER Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:29 pm

The season is over now. Theres no rules and they really dont care.

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Post by MadProps1234! Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:30 pm

No it isn’t. Most teams have 5 games left.

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:07 pm

It seems to me that all of the major clubs use “guest players” in some form or fashion. Either it’s the big club way up north who utilized pool play to form their game day team against a top team or one of the others who pull a player or two to guest in a big game. They all do it. It’s within the rules. Get over it. I don’t like it that much either but it’s a fact of top level soccer here. From what I can see if a team uses guests, it’s 1-2 guest players and that’s it. It’s not like it’s a completely different set of players week in and week out.

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Post by Cerv1973 Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:09 pm

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Post by soccerfan09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:37 pm

Eddyinmyyeti wrote:It seems to me that all of the major clubs use “guest players” in some form or fashion. Either it’s the big club way up north who utilized pool play to form their game day team against a top team or one of the others who pull a player or two to guest in a big game. They all do it. It’s within the rules. Get over it. I don’t like it that much either but it’s a fact of top level soccer here. From what I can see if a team uses guests, it’s 1-2 guest players and that’s it. It’s not like it’s a completely different set of players week in and week out.

What are you basing this upon? Do you mean your team uses guest players from other “good” teams within the same club. With players that don’t even or won’t even be apart of your team once they are select and possibly against other teams within the same club. I don’t think it’s prevalent other than for a few teams that seem to swap players in and out of their teams with other players from the same club. I love the whole it’s only “one or two players bit as well”

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Post by melashbrew Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:38 pm

I beg to differ that all they all do it in our age group. I know plenty of top teams that don’t. Also, I don’t think anyone is mad that some teams use guests, as it is within the rules. Just a lot more respect for the ones that don’t. That’s all.

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:49 pm

Soccerfan09, have you experienced a top level team that brought more than 1-2 guest to a game? From the games that my DD has played in where her team used guests or played against a team with a guest, it’s usually just 1 or 2 players. Outside of one outlier, the team my DD is playing against is for the most part that team.

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Post by soccerfan09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:58 pm

Eddyinmyyeti wrote:Soccerfan09, have you experienced a top level team that brought more than 1-2 guest to a game? From the games that my DD has played in where her team used guests or played against a team with a guest, it’s usually just 1 or 2 players.  Outside of one outlier, the team my DD is playing against is for the most part that team.

Yes I have, for sure...and this whole one or two players bit is silly for real. Playing against a top team who can and does routinely bring in your “accepted”ratio of one to two players (who happen to be others teams top players within the club) does make a difference...you’d be a fool to think otherwise

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:18 pm

Most of the top teams in NTX don’t bring guest players because they already have the best players in the club. So why bring a guest? The others may bring a guest or two if needed but it’s not a wholesale switch out of the team as you suggest. If my DDs team uses a guest, it’s 99% of the time no more than 2. Again, those that have a pool of talent to pull from will, those that don’t, won’t.

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Post by soccerfan09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:26 pm

Eddyinmyyeti wrote:Most of the top teams in NTX don’t bring guest players because they already have the best players in the club. So why bring a guest? The others may bring a guest or two if needed but it’s not a wholesale switch out of the team as you suggest. If my DDs team uses a guest, it’s 99% of the time no more than 2.  Again, those that have a pool of talent to pull from will, those that don’t, won’t.


Lol, “already have the best players in the club”, man truly lol, how dumb can you be, there are several of the “top” teams who do, those “top” teams lose as well or tie to the “lesser” teams, again you are either naive or just dumb to think that brining in 1 or 2 players has no impact on results, without results what would you have to hang your hat on “top teams already have the best players In the club so why bring a guest” comment.



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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:42 pm

Wow, i love how intense you are getting about this. 😂 You read my post incorrectly. What I was saying is that the top teams who do not routinely use guest players do not do so because their clubs have already pulled together the best players into an “A team”. Therefore, there would be no reason to add players from lower level teams to fill spots. I am not trying to say that bringing guest players does not affect game results. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn’t. Glad for a spirited debate on a Sunday night. Good night and see y’all next weekend.

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:43 pm

BTW, glad the 09 group is still active on here. The other age groups aren’t nearly as involved. Peace.

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Post by soccerfan09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:53 pm

Eddyinmyyeti wrote:Wow, i love how intense you are getting about this.  😂 You read my post incorrectly. What I was saying is that the top teams who do not routinely use guest players do not do so because their clubs have already pulled together the best players into an “A team”. Therefore, there would be no reason to add players from lower level teams to fill spots. I am not trying to say that bringing guest players does not affect game results. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn’t. Glad for a spirited debate on a Sunday night. Good night and see y’all next weekend.


Wow I love how you deflect, yes I agree that some of The “top” teams don’t use guest players but several of them in fact do, also the notion that the club has already pooled talent to a “top” team is laughable as well....except for maybe FCD which your DD doesn’t play for, maybe she plays for a blue and white team....keep thinking the talent is already on just one team and think what your comments may look like in a year or two

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Post by Eddyinmyyeti Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:11 am

Lol... again that is not what I am saying. FCD is not the only club that has pooled talent into an “A team”. And my point was actually that it is smart for the teams who haven’t pooled onto an”A team” to use other team’s players when needed because the talent is so spread out from team to team. I will agree to disagree with you on this. Enjoy your evening.

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