The REAL difference between DA and ECNL

I got to know where to go.

So let's recap Big Ern.

A DA promoter started this thread saying the big difference between ECNL and GDA is the college attendance numbers [based on registered attendees]. I responded by saying that the posted numbers are not compete, which most people know, and the numbers don't exactly tell the whole story about the shifting landscape - GDA was much stronger than ECNL their first year (in regards to quality and recruiting) before many big clubs left GDA - and you do your best as the forum's self-appointed resident wordsmith to discount my response. I've watched you do this to many people on this forum over the years, and you are very good at it, but my response to the original post is accurate and supported by people in attendance at both national events and by the national college recruiting numbers.

I also suggested that the country was trending towards ECNL (which it was before the Real Colorado and Tophat announcements) which you can clearly observe if you read other forums around the country, like Illinois, Michigan, New England, Florida, New York, Northern California, Oregon and Washington. In these markets, ECNL has become stronger, if not the top league, and GDA weaker. Like it or not, these markets have shifted.

I am not suggesting that ECNL is the top league, it is in some markets and not in others, I am only pointing out that the landscape for the top tier of girl's soccer is rapidly changing and not quite as defined as it was last year or as you and the original poster might suggest; and that GDA has NOT become the top league for college recruiting.

918soccer wrote:So let's recap Big Ern.

A DA promoter started this thread saying the big difference between ECNL and GDA is the college attendance numbers [based on registered attendees]. I responded by saying that the posted numbers are not compete, which most people know, and the numbers don't exactly tell the whole story about the shifting landscape - GDA was much stronger than ECNL their first year (in regards to quality and recruiting) before many big clubs left GDA - and you do your best as the forum's self-appointed resident wordsmith to discount my response. I've watched you do this to many people on this forum over the years, and you are very good at it, but my response to the original post is accurate and supported by people in attendance at both national events and by the national college recruiting numbers.

I also suggested that the country was trending towards ECNL (which it was before the Real Colorado and Tophat announcements) which you can clearly observe if you read other forums around the country, like Illinois, Michigan, New England, Florida, New York, Northern California, Oregon and Washington. In these markets, ECNL has become stronger, if not the top league, and GDA weaker. Like it or not, these markets have shifted.

I am not suggesting that ECNL is the top league, it is in some markets and not in others, I am only pointing out that the landscape for the top tier of girl's soccer is rapidly changing and not quite as defined as it was last year or as you and the original poster might suggest; and that GDA has NOT become the top league for college recruiting.

If this "Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event," is what you're referring to, of course it's accurate ... However, as I mentioned earlier in this thread as well, the same holds true for GDA events.  I'm not really "doing my best to discount" anything here ... just simply stating the obvious truth.

I think we all know that GDA is stronger in this market and that the ECNL is stronger in that ... I haven't come across any one that would argue that.  But to so staunchly state that "the rest of the country is clearly trending towards ECNL.", is clearly simple to discount ... especially when you consider the USNT statistics (that were so humbly referenced by PLAYER in this thread's 2.0 ... https://www.txsoccer.net/t42730-the-real-difference-between-da-and-ecnl-2-0) --

And if you're really reading the forums in "Illinois, Michigan, New England, Florida, New York, Northern California, Oregon and Washington" (or even know that they exist), I just feel sorry for ya  

Big Ern wrote:

918soccer wrote:So let's recap Big Ern.

A DA promoter started this thread saying the big difference between ECNL and GDA is the college attendance numbers [based on registered attendees]. I responded by saying that the posted numbers are not compete, which most people know, and the numbers don't exactly tell the whole story about the shifting landscape - GDA was much stronger than ECNL their first year (in regards to quality and recruiting) before many big clubs left GDA - and you do your best as the forum's self-appointed resident wordsmith to discount my response. I've watched you do this to many people on this forum over the years, and you are very good at it, but my response to the original post is accurate and supported by people in attendance at both national events and by the national college recruiting numbers.

I also suggested that the country was trending towards ECNL (which it was before the Real Colorado and Tophat announcements) which you can clearly observe if you read other forums around the country, like Illinois, Michigan, New England, Florida, New York, Northern California, Oregon and Washington. In these markets, ECNL has become stronger, if not the top league, and GDA weaker. Like it or not, these markets have shifted.

I am not suggesting that ECNL is the top league, it is in some markets and not in others, I am only pointing out that the landscape for the top tier of girl's soccer is rapidly changing and not quite as defined as it was last year or as you and the original poster might suggest; and that GDA has NOT become the top league for college recruiting.

If this "Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event," is what you're referring to, of course it's accurate ... However, as I mentioned earlier in this thread as well, the same holds true for GDA events.  I'm not really "doing my best to discount" anything here ... just simply stating the obvious truth.

I think we all know that GDA is stronger in this market and that the ECNL is stronger in that ... I haven't come across any one that would argue that.  But to so staunchly state that "the rest of the country is clearly trending towards ECNL.", is clearly simple to discount ... especially when you consider the USNT statistics (that were so humbly referenced by PLAYER in this thread's 2.0 ... https://www.txsoccer.net/t42730-the-real-difference-between-da-and-ecnl-2-0) --

And if you're really reading the forums in "Illinois, Michigan, New England, Florida, New York, Northern California, Oregon and Washington" (or even know that they exist), I just feel sorry for ya  

918 is a TSC puppet....please forgive him as he drinks the ECNL kool-aid straight from the tit

Truthiness wrote:

RIP Lil Peep wrote:

Truthiness wrote:We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

Is this just rumor popping up again or is it actual noninternet news?  

I suppose it's both.  Given the league position of the FCD teams and the criteria that was set forth for any club to be able to play in both ECNL and DA, the only path left for FCD to keep both is to have a team win an ECNL national championship this year.   That looks very unlikely to happen. When it doesn't happen, FCD will have to choose between FCD and ECNL, and the assumption is they'll choose the DA.  I suppose there's a small chance they'll choose ECNL (which would likely involve a backroom deal for two ECNL teams in each age group in return for dropping DA), but most people seem to think that's unlikely.

Looks like we will find out soon.

Truthiness wrote:

Truthiness wrote:

RIP Lil Peep wrote:

Truthiness wrote:We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

Is this just rumor popping up again or is it actual noninternet news?  

I suppose it's both.  Given the league position of the FCD teams and the criteria that was set forth for any club to be able to play in both ECNL and DA, the only path left for FCD to keep both is to have a team win an ECNL national championship this year.   That looks very unlikely to happen. When it doesn't happen, FCD will have to choose between FCD and ECNL, and the assumption is they'll choose the DA.  I suppose there's a small chance they'll choose ECNL (which would likely involve a backroom deal for two ECNL teams in each age group in return for dropping DA), but most people seem to think that's unlikely.

Looks like we will find out soon.

Soon ... or yesterday.  Either way, it's doneski.