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Post by earbucket 28/06/19, 01:38 pm

A really good article for all youth soccer players.  Answers questions on why my kid was never chosen.

https://www.soccernation.com/scouting-for-the-us-youth-national-teams-must-read-advice-for-any-player-who-wants-to-improve/

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Post by Hat Trick Rick 28/06/19, 02:00 pm

Great article, thanks for sharing

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Post by timmyh 29/06/19, 01:27 am

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/82731/us-soccers-mirelle-van-rijbroek-on-da-vs-ecnl.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline&utm_campaign=21698&hashid=um1et2bfMwBNz_YkSjuv2YGfzpE

Another interesting article

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Post by WinTheChipzRdown 29/06/19, 11:28 am

Yep...both good reads

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Post by G21DD 29/06/19, 01:20 pm

Good articles. Anybody know if college coaches look for the same things? I've seen some college games lately and from what I saw looks like colleges put strength, size and speed at the top of their list. Don't remember seeing much passing at all. Lots of heading.

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Post by 07soccerdad 29/06/19, 01:31 pm

Based on what I saw from the USWNT and some of the GDA U18/19 championship game yesterday, there is sadly very little possession/passing. Leads me to believe size, speed and strength is still a priority rather than skill, technique, vision etc, at least in this country. Not good IMO

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Post by Yo 29/06/19, 05:21 pm

07soccerdad wrote:Based on what I saw from the USWNT and some of the GDA U18/19 championship game yesterday, there is sadly very little possession/passing.  Leads me to believe size, speed and strength is still a priority rather than skill, technique, vision etc, at least in this country. Not good IMO

Yep, but the Federation sure does like to talk a good game.

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Post by Straighttalk 29/06/19, 07:24 pm

Size , strength and speed. And nothing else unfortunately.
I was with my doc , when couple of coaches approached him at showcase . Their only question to him were, can she run ??
Makes me believe , nothing will ever change here in US soccer
G21DD wrote:Good articles.  Anybody know if college coaches look for the same things?  I've seen some college games lately and from what I saw looks like colleges put strength, size and speed at the top of their list.  Don't remember seeing much passing at all.  Lots of heading.

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Post by WinTheChipzRdown 29/06/19, 07:39 pm

Straighttalk wrote:Size , strength and speed. And nothing else unfortunately.
I was with my doc , when couple of coaches approached him at showcase  . Their only question to him  were, can she run ??
Makes me believe , nothing will ever change here in US soccer  
G21DD wrote:Good articles.  Anybody know if college coaches look for the same things?  I've seen some college games lately and from what I saw looks like colleges put strength, size and speed at the top of their list.  Don't remember seeing much passing at all.  Lots of heading.

Heard the exact same..
Can she run?
Is she strong?
If yes to both, I guess monitoring their level of technical ability is a quick task then on to the next match.

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Post by 07soccerdad 30/06/19, 07:37 am

Saw some of the solar u16/17 DA match yesterday..and have to give credit where it's due..they possessed the ball very nicely and as a result - dominated and looked great. Shame more youth competitive teams don't teach this style of soccer. We can see how it has continued to leave our men's game behind the best or rest of the world and how the women's game in other parts of the world is catching up..and it's only taken a few years of investment (playing the right way - saw it in France).

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Post by Straighttalk 30/06/19, 08:59 am

Solar doesn’t even follow the same philosophy in younger groups. Completely opposite from how solar u14s looked this weekend . Solar u14s have a lot of work to do. Too much boot ball and they have wasted one year under last years coach. IMO , putting 2 mediocre teams in 2 leagues won’t serve any purpose.
U16-17s are phenomenal but these players are cream of dfw that ended up in one team.

07soccerdad wrote:Saw some of the solar u16/17 DA match yesterday..and have to give credit where it's due..they possessed the ball very nicely and as a result - dominated and looked great. Shame more youth competitive teams don't teach this style of soccer. We can see how it has continued to leave our men's game behind the best or rest of the world and how the women's game in other parts of the world is catching up..and it's only taken a few years of investment (playing the right way - saw it in France).

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Post by ArsenalTX14 30/06/19, 11:53 am

Yo wrote:
07soccerdad wrote:Based on what I saw from the USWNT and some of the GDA U18/19 championship game yesterday, there is sadly very little possession/passing.  Leads me to believe size, speed and strength is still a priority rather than skill, technique, vision etc, at least in this country. Not good IMO

Yep, but the Federation sure does like to talk a good game.

100% ... USSF talks a great game, but when push comes to shove, the same style of Race-Horses get promoted up the chain (generally speaking).

This is just my opinion, but i think it's more indicative of our society in general. Instant Gratification and Keepin' up with the Jones' ... we lack the patience for the actual investment and development of the kids. We're too busy ranking U9 Academy and playing politics to join the top team at U12 ... all under the "guise" of saying the right things about Development first, etc... Rolling Eyes

The easiest metric to look at development is a Win-Loss column ... but ... there is sooooo much more to that. I have ZERO dog in this fight/argument/discussion and no affiliations either ... but ... I have read up a little on AYSES philosophy and know a few people whose kids played for them ... they make no bones about the early days of not focusing on the results, focusing on the Technical foundation of their players, and they might be a punching-bag in a few games trying to play this way against the Man-Childs of U11-U13 haha!!! The PARENT is the paying customer (the kids aint writing the checks) ... can you convince the Parent in investing into the long-term development - or - is it more important to say you're on that Top 10 Team and traveling all the way to Colorado to crush their #1 State Team when you're #6 or #7 here in the Metroplex? Laughing


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Post by WinTheChipzRdown 30/06/19, 01:54 pm

Straighttalk wrote:Solar doesn’t even follow the same philosophy in younger groups. Completely opposite from how solar  u14s looked this weekend . Solar u14s have a lot of work to do. Too much boot ball and they  have wasted one year under last years coach. IMO , putting 2 mediocre teams in 2 leagues won’t serve  any purpose.  
U16-17s are phenomenal but these players are cream of dfw that ended up in one team.

07soccerdad wrote:Saw some of the solar u16/17 DA match yesterday..and have to give credit where it's due..they possessed the ball very nicely and as a result - dominated and looked great. Shame more youth competitive teams don't teach this style of soccer. We can see how it has continued to leave our men's game behind the best or rest of the world and how the women's game in other parts of the world is catching up..and it's only taken a few years of investment (playing the right way - saw it in France).

I agree with your opinion. He has been about successful at coaching as he has been dieting. Although he is nurturing his kid and and positioning her for great exposure.
Great dad, not so much a great coach.
With that being said....
Solar Colvin does pretty well with the Solar philosophy with his younger groups, ‘07s are great, 09’s do well and ‘10s are set to carry the torch so don’t let that u14 DA coach taint the process..after all, he is fresh from the Texans.

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