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Post by JustPassingThrough on 16/04/20, 09:33 am

Still games on their schedules that may or may not happen. But seems like Celtics and Sting Austin are at the bottom of every age group ECNL and ECRL. Does everyone stay at this point, or some gone to make room?

ECNL
U-14                            U-15                           U-16                              U-17                             U-18/19                    Composite
1 Col. Rapids                Classics                       Albion                            Sting Dallas                   Sting Dallas               Sting Dallas
2 Sting Dallas               Solar                  Sting Dallas                    DKSC                            Albion                       Solar
3 Challenge                  DKSC                          Solar                             Challenge                      Challenge                   DKSC
4 Albion                       Sting Dallas                 DKSC                             Col Rapids                     TSC                           Albion
5 Celtics                      Col. Rapids                  Col. Rapids                      Solar                             Solar                         Classics
6 Classics                    Albion                         Classics                           Albion                           Col. Rapids                 Challenge
7 Solar                        Celtics                        Challenge                        Classics                         Classics                      TSC
8 DKSC                       Sting Austin                TSC                                 TSC                              DKSC                         Celtics
9 TSC                         Challenge                    Pride                               Sting Austin                   Pride
10 Pride                      TSC                            Celtics                             Celtics                           Sting Austin
11 Sting Austin            Pride                          Sting Austin                     Pride                             Celtics

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U-14                               U-15                            U-16                             U-17                                 U-18/19
1 Challenge                     Classics                        DKSC                            Challenge                          DKSC
2 TSC                             Sting Dallas                  Albion                            Sting Dallas                       TSC
3 DKSC                           DKSC                          Sting Dallas                     Albion                              Celtics
4 Sting Dallas                  TSC                             Challenge                       DKSC                               Albion
5 Albion                          Challenge                     Sting Austin                   Classics                            Sting Dallas
6 Classics                       Sting Austin                  Classics                          TSC                                 Challenge
7 Celtics                         Albion                           TSC                               Sting Austin                     Classics
8 Sting Austin                 Celtics                          Celtics                            Celtics                             Sting Austin


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Post by 5050Ball on 16/04/20, 09:59 am

Interesting case with the Pateadores in SoCal. Boys accepted into ECNL, but girls only into ECRL to start. Lavers called it 'an objective competition-based measurement' for full club membership.

Does this foretell a tiered platform with relegation and promotion? Hopefully so.
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Post by WinTheChipzRdown on 16/04/20, 10:05 am

https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/20/usys_announcement_041520.pdf?28299

Anutha one....

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Post by YoQuieroSoccer on 16/04/20, 01:00 pm

WinTheChipzRdown wrote:https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/20/usys_announcement_041520.pdf?28299

Anutha one....

Right.....The coroner hasn't even picked up DA's body and another has emerged Exclamation .....
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Post by smugrr on 17/04/20, 01:28 pm

Does anyone know what Texans and FC Dallas are going to do?

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Post by Deuce on 17/04/20, 01:32 pm

smugrr wrote:Does anyone know what Texans and FC Dallas are going to do?

Texans already announced move to ECNL before the DA cancellation. FCD - great question.

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Post by NoSpinZone on 17/04/20, 02:13 pm

Deuce wrote:
smugrr wrote:Does anyone know what Texans and FC Dallas are going to do?

Texans already announced move to ECNL before the DA cancellation. FCD - great question.

BigEgo knows all, just ask him. Maybe he will enlighten us. (He wont, cause he dont know $ hit)

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Post by Deuce on 18/04/20, 01:27 pm

DPL jumps in

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Post by Yo on 18/04/20, 02:09 pm

Get the tour bus ready....

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Post by smugrr on 18/04/20, 06:39 pm

And who will be on board?

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Post by Tanner on 18/04/20, 09:11 pm

They have been inundated with calls?!??? Did I read that right lol. They have been calling themselves trying to figure out how they can save their own jobs and make money. DPL has been useless. Two years ago it was FDL, this year It was the new and improved DPL, and now it’s the super improved transparent DPL. So basically this past year was not transparent is that what they are saying. Guess what this new league does??? It allows you to play HS soccer and it allows more subbing at an elite level. Are you kidding me. So it’s basically a version of ECNL for the clubs who can’t get into ECNL or did I miss something!! Why do we need another league? Truth is we don’t. Whoever is running DPL wants the money and as a reward you get a patch to stick on a jersey. Does anyone even think College coaches will go to these showcases and spend 5 min watching the teams that are in this league. I seriously doubt they need to go to DPL when there are plenty of showcases as it it. Once contracts are signed and money is in the bank I bet the DPL is as useless as it was this past year. I for one will not be paying for my daughter to be a part of it and I’ll pull her from her team if they sign up to play in it. I have an idea, let’s wait till the quarantine is over with and society gets back to normal before doing the money grab with another useless league. Heck there may not even be tryouts this summer unless something changes. How about we worry about that first. DA just announced the end of their league like 5 min ago and here we go again. Soccer is wearing me out and so are the clowns running these leagues. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Big Ern on 19/04/20, 10:49 am

Tanner wrote:They have been inundated with calls?!??? Did I read that right lol.  They have been calling themselves trying to figure out how they can save their own jobs and make money.  DPL has been useless. Two years ago it was FDL, this year It was the new and improved DPL, and now it’s the super improved transparent DPL. So basically this past year was not transparent is that what they are saying. Guess what this new league does??? It allows you to play HS soccer and it allows more subbing at an elite level. Are you kidding me. So it’s basically a version of ECNL for the clubs who can’t get into ECNL or did I miss something!! Why do we need another league? Truth is we don’t. Whoever is running DPL wants the money and as a reward you get a patch to stick on a jersey. Does anyone even think College coaches will go to these showcases and spend 5 min watching the teams that are in this league. I seriously doubt they need to go to DPL when there are plenty of showcases as it it. Once contracts are signed and money is in the bank I bet the DPL is as useless as it was this past year. I for one will not be paying for my daughter to be a part of it and I’ll pull her from her team if they sign up to play in it. I have an idea, let’s wait till the quarantine is over with and society gets back to normal before doing the money grab with another useless league. Heck there may not even be tryouts this summer unless something changes. How about we worry about that first. DA just announced the end of their league like 5 min ago and here we go again. Soccer is wearing me out and so are the clowns running these leagues. Just my 2 cents.

Heya Tanner --

I think we all feel ya' ... And you're absolutely right that the GAL (which was desperately worked up in the past few days by the same folks that expanded DPL out of SoCal last year when they were in a pinch) is "basically a version of ECNL for the clubs who can’t get into ECNL" for the upcoming year.  Where you may be confuzzled is that it is not the DLP/FDL of past years, nor will it be it for 20-21 (I believe that league will continue to flounder in TX going forward btw).  Not to say that I personally want my kid's current team playing in GAL, but it sounds like it will be comprised of the leftover GDA Frontier clubs.  And given that those teams have some of the country's top talent on them currently (although they may be hard pressed to keep some of it) and they'd be playing against other ECNL excluded GDA clubs, there may be a college coach or two watching them at showcases  Wink  

The "patch" doesn't matter does it?

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Post by Truthiness on 19/04/20, 02:28 pm

Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.
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Post by Truthiness on 19/04/20, 02:36 pm

Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge


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Post by WinTheChipzRdown on 19/04/20, 05:30 pm

Truthiness wrote:
Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Legends - Arsenal 
Beach - Slammers/Blues/Strikers
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge

Poaching would not be difficult IF FCD didn’t do ECNL. Is that a for sure thing or speculation?

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Post by SickofStupidity on 19/04/20, 06:41 pm

IF this were true, FC Dallas would be in a league that played a schedule against Dash and Lonestar . . . and every other away game would likely be a plane flight away. Talk about getting expensive - and you would have to commit to a travel league before you know what travel challenges there would be over the next year.

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Post by Truthiness on 19/04/20, 06:47 pm

SickofStupidity wrote:IF this were true, FC Dallas would be in a league that played a schedule against Dash and Lonestar . . . and every other away game would likely be a plane flight away.  Talk about getting expensive - and you would have to commit to a travel league before you know what travel challenges there would be over the next year.

I didn't mean to insinuate those were the only clubs in the DPL/GAL league, only that those clubs appear to "form the backbone" as they are the only non ECNL/ECRL in the Soccerwire top 75 clubs.  There will certainly be more teams in the league. And perhaps some of those 15 clubs may not be involved or still may yet be accepted into ECNL.

My assumption would be that the "local" league conference will include FCD, Dash, Lonestar, Energy, Sporting BV, Sporting Omaha.  Maybe a new club or two? Maybe Solar?  And then there will be cross-conference games (or Showcases or Cup Play) against the other clubs listed like Tophat, FC Virginia, etc.
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Post by cenTex on 20/04/20, 12:55 am

WinTheChipzRdown wrote:
Truthiness wrote:
Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge

Poaching would not be difficult IF FCD didn’t do ECNL. Is that a for sure thing or speculation?

It is a sure thing. Neither FC Dallas or Lonestar (nor Dash or Energy) will be in ECNL next year. They got stabbed in the back by US Soccer, and the ECNL political machine has twisted the knife.

While I can't imagine it is incredibly impactful on the club as a whole (it really only affects the top team, and the GAL league is a viable new solution for some), but many top Lonestar DA girls are already lined up at the exit door. Sting Austin is going to be much improved next year. So will Classics Elite.

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Post by humble1 on 20/04/20, 12:38 pm

cenTex wrote:
WinTheChipzRdown wrote:
Truthiness wrote:
Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge

Poaching would not be difficult IF FCD didn’t do ECNL. Is that a for sure thing or speculation?

It is a sure thing. Neither FC Dallas or Lonestar (nor Dash or Energy) will be in ECNL next year. They got stabbed in the back by US Soccer, and the ECNL political machine has twisted the knife.

While I can't imagine it is incredibly impactful on the club as a whole (it really only affects the top team, and the GAL league is a viable new solution for some), but many top Lonestar DA girls are already lined up at the exit door. Sting Austin is going to be much improved next year. So will Classics Elite.
With Texas having 3 of the 15 spots on that wall of shame this could be taken as a data point showing the relative dis-functionality of Texas youth soccer. The blame finger could be pointed back to USSF in their Soccer House in Chicago, but in the end all of us here in Texas are in the same boat and need to realize that we need our youth playing as many quality local games as possible regardless of what fr*g*n league they play in. Get some inter-league play for creeps sake. C'mon ya'll!

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Post by Durian on 20/04/20, 03:11 pm

humble1 wrote:
cenTex wrote:
WinTheChipzRdown wrote:
Truthiness wrote:
Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge

Poaching would not be difficult IF FCD didn’t do ECNL. Is that a for sure thing or speculation?

It is a sure thing. Neither FC Dallas or Lonestar (nor Dash or Energy) will be in ECNL next year. They got stabbed in the back by US Soccer, and the ECNL political machine has twisted the knife.

While I can't imagine it is incredibly impactful on the club as a whole (it really only affects the top team, and the GAL league is a viable new solution for some), but many top Lonestar DA girls are already lined up at the exit door. Sting Austin is going to be much improved next year. So will Classics Elite.
With Texas having 3 of the 15 spots on that wall of shame this could be taken as a data point showing the relative dis-functionality of Texas youth soccer.  The blame finger could be pointed back to USSF in their Soccer House in Chicago, but in the end all of us here in Texas are in the same boat and need to realize that we need our youth playing as many quality local games as possible regardless of what fr*g*n league they play in.  Get some inter-league play for creeps sake.  C'mon ya'll!  

What do you consider local? If its just playing North Texas teams I think we have it in LH. After playing the same faces for a few years I would suspect you would want to play against other states to see where you are at. I think ODP and ECNL were born out of a desire to do this....just my opinion.

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Post by 5050Ball on 20/04/20, 03:48 pm

Durian wrote:
humble1 wrote:
cenTex wrote:
WinTheChipzRdown wrote:
Truthiness wrote:
Truthiness wrote:Per Soccerwire, these are the 15 of the Top 75 girls clubs in the country who it appears will not be in ECNL or ECRL next year...

Top Hat
FC Dallas
Earth Quakes
FC Virginia
NEFC
Sporting BV
Cincinnati DA
Lonestar
LA Galaxy  
SS Select
Nationals
Albion SD
Galaxy SD
Seattle Reign
Houston Dash

It appears these 15 clubs will form the backbone of the new GAL tier in the DPL league.


And, not uncoincidentally, each of those has a local girls ECNL club heavily invested in keeping those 15 out of the league, simply doesn't want the competition, and sees a unique opportunity to try and poach their top players and coaches...

Top Hat - Concord Fire/UFA
FC Dallas - Texans/Solar/Sting/DKSC 
Earth Quakes - MVLA
FC Virginia - Louden
NEFC - FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV - KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA - Ohio Elite
Lonestar - Sting Austin
LA Galaxy - Slammers/Blues/Strikers 
SS Select - Scorpions SC
Nationals - Michigan Hawks
Albion SD - Surf
Galaxy SD - SD Surf
Reign - Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash - Albion/Challenge

Poaching would not be difficult IF FCD didn’t do ECNL. Is that a for sure thing or speculation?

It is a sure thing. Neither FC Dallas or Lonestar (nor Dash or Energy) will be in ECNL next year. They got stabbed in the back by US Soccer, and the ECNL political machine has twisted the knife.

While I can't imagine it is incredibly impactful on the club as a whole (it really only affects the top team, and the GAL league is a viable new solution for some), but many top Lonestar DA girls are already lined up at the exit door. Sting Austin is going to be much improved next year. So will Classics Elite.
With Texas having 3 of the 15 spots on that wall of shame this could be taken as a data point showing the relative dis-functionality of Texas youth soccer.  The blame finger could be pointed back to USSF in their Soccer House in Chicago, but in the end all of us here in Texas are in the same boat and need to realize that we need our youth playing as many quality local games as possible regardless of what fr*g*n league they play in.  Get some inter-league play for creeps sake.  C'mon ya'll!  

What do you consider local? If its just playing North Texas teams I think we have it in LH. After playing the same faces for a few years I would suspect you would want to play against other states to see where you are at. I think ODP and ECNL were born out of a desire to do this....just my opinion.

FWIW, when USYS was the only game in town, ODP was it's platform for ID, and believe it or not served that function. ECNL was born because the most powerful clubs were tired of following USYS rules and formed US Club.

Neither were born out of a desire to play outside NTX. Top clubs and teams have been doing that forever.
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Post by smugrr on 20/04/20, 05:17 pm

Was it roster flexibility, for example? I remember the LH Girls Classic rules in the "old" days as being pretty rigid. Most teams went to only one or two out of state tournaments. Teams came here for Plano Labor Day and it was a big event.

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Post by WinTheChipzRdown on 20/04/20, 09:16 pm

https://149363092.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-21-Girls-ECNL-Club-Map-as-of-42020.jpeg

Sheesh for Colorado

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Post by cenTex on 20/04/20, 10:21 pm

WinTheChipzRdown wrote:https://149363092.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-21-Girls-ECNL-Club-Map-as-of-42020.jpeg

Sheesh for Colorado

I'm told this is the final structure for 2020-21, but there is that little caveat in the corner with a date on it.  I imagine that gives hope to clubs and players still hoping for the ECNL lifeline.

Colorado had plane trips either way.  Now it's just going west instead of east.  It's great news for Texas, though. Nobody needs to get on a plane for a youth soccer league game. Especially nowadays.

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Post by cenTex on 25/04/20, 05:10 pm

Good article today in the local paper. I imagine you can replace "Lonestar" with FC Dallas or Dash or Energy.

https://www.statesman.com/sports/20200425/alphabet-soup-development-academy-shutdown-puts-austins-elite-girls-soccer-in-tough-spot?fbclid=IwAR1cBANOoozy_D2SdAM_DbdOvl0wiZRBkXx7AkOZA9Xnqmfnb8KkYP5SYwg

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Post by JLA956 on 25/04/20, 05:38 pm

cenTex wrote:
WinTheChipzRdown wrote:https://149363092.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-21-Girls-ECNL-Club-Map-as-of-42020.jpeg

Sheesh for Colorado

I'm told this is the final structure for 2020-21, but there is that little caveat in the corner with a date on it.  I imagine that gives hope to clubs and players still hoping for the ECNL lifeline.

Colorado had plane trips either way.  Now it's just going west instead of east.  It's great news for Texas, though. Nobody needs to get on a plane for a youth soccer league game. Especially nowadays.
Delta is talking about passengers needing to have an "Immunity Passport" to be able to fly.  If the airlines implement some policy where you have to prove that you have had Covid-19 and are now immune before you can even board the plane, then that would pretty much eliminate teams from traveling to games or tournaments.  Even if some of the team had immunity, what about the members that didn't?  Driving looks like the only option for the foreseeable future.

Delta CEO raises prospect of ‘immunity passports’ for air travel

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