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Post by jogobonito06 on 11/07/20, 03:33 pm

TxFutbal wrote:ECRL-NTX is a joke.  It will die a painful death next year.
ECRL is about to be a joke unless ECNL powers allow ECRL teams into the college showcases.  If this doesn't happen, FDL will become the premier 2nd tier league.  The new National Showcase platform that FDL and Frontier feed into is very promising.  Question is whether USYS allows ECRL teams to compete in the National Showcases.  If not, there will be a lot of buyers remorse in the ECRL platform.  Sad because ECRL was a huge success last year.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 11/07/20, 05:28 pm

jogobonito06 wrote:
TxFutbal wrote:ECRL-NTX is a joke.  It will die a painful death next year.
ECRL is about to be a joke unless ECNL powers allow ECRL teams into the college showcases.  If this doesn't happen, FDL will become the premier 2nd tier league.  The new National Showcase platform that FDL and Frontier feed into is very promising.  Question is whether USYS allows ECRL teams to compete in the National Showcases.  If not, there will be a lot of buyers remorse in the ECRL platform.  Sad because ECRL was a huge success last year.

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Post by TxFutbal on 11/07/20, 07:30 pm

ECRL based on what I saw last season and following the various leagues were for the most part competitive matches with some really good development. Not much difference between ECNL and ECRL in many instances (not all). In some instances I saw ECRL teams beat some ECNL teams where they faced off. In many instances ECNL players would play in ECRL league games to get minutes and/or help the ECRL team win matches against better opponents.

Biggest difference I saw between ECNL and ECRL was size and speed of the fowards mostly. Technical skills were similar as was quality of defense.

Again.. not saying this across the board, just in many instances where ECNL and RL were playing in same venue, practices, and friendlies that I saw. Just as not all ECNL teams are of the same quality, not all RL teams were of the same quality.

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Post by MaximilianOneMX on 11/07/20, 08:00 pm

TxFutbal wrote:ECRL based on what I saw last season and following the various leagues were for the most part competitive matches with some really good development.  Not much difference between ECNL and ECRL in many instances (not all).  In some instances I saw ECRL teams beat some ECNL teams where they faced off.  In many instances ECNL players would play in ECRL league games to get minutes  and/or help the ECRL team win matches against better opponents.

Biggest difference I saw between ECNL and ECRL was size and speed of the fowards mostly.  Technical skills were similar as was quality of defense.

Again.. not saying this across the board, just in many instances where ECNL and RL were playing in same venue, practices, and friendlies that I saw.  Just as not all ECNL teams are of the same quality, not all RL teams were of the same quality.  

There were only two local ECRL teams per age group, right? Not really a great sample size to support your conclusions.

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Post by TxFutbal on 11/07/20, 08:38 pm

across all age groups not just one.. multiple regions as well not just texas. so yes a good sample size I saw.

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Post by MaximilianOneMX on 11/07/20, 09:35 pm

TxFutbal wrote:across all age groups not just one.. multiple regions as well not just texas.  so yes a good sample size I saw.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 12/07/20, 02:23 pm

MaximilianOneMX wrote:
TxFutbal wrote:across all age groups not just one.. multiple regions as well not just texas.  so yes a good sample size I saw.

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Post by Big Ern on 13/07/20, 12:08 am

TxFutbal wrote:ECRL based on what I saw last season and following the various leagues were for the most part competitive matches with some really good development.  Not much difference between ECNL and ECRL in many instances (not all).  In some instances I saw ECRL teams beat some ECNL teams where they faced off.  In many instances ECNL players would play in ECRL league games to get minutes  and/or help the ECRL team win matches against better opponents.

Biggest difference I saw between ECNL and ECRL was size and speed of the fowards mostly.  Technical skills were similar as was quality of defense.

Again.. not saying this across the board, just in many instances where ECNL and RL were playing in same venue, practices, and friendlies that I saw.  Just as not all ECNL teams are of the same quality, not all RL teams were of the same quality.  

Isn't that ^ just how it typically goes though?  And by that I mean ... Not mucha difference between the 2nd and 3rd levels?  

May be a bit different story though in the upcoming year due to now having to compare the most elite, top level here in DFW with the 2nd level, won't it?

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Post by smugrr on 13/07/20, 09:11 am

Trying to figure out.....There is ECNL. No problem. Then last year and this year there is ECRL which plays the same schedule (Oklahoma and S. Texas) as ECNL and thus travels. And this new thing is some kind of ECRL light, which only plays locally and in its S. Texas version, contains some non ECNL clubs, but not, so far, in its N. Texas version.

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Post by TxFutbal on 13/07/20, 08:14 pm

Isn't that ^ just how it typically goes though?  And by that I mean ... Not mucha difference between the 2nd and 3rd levels?  

May be a bit different story though in the upcoming year due to now having to compare the most elite, top level here in DFW with the 2nd level, won't it?[/quote]

Agree.. I expect ECNL to have more separation in quality than ECRL. I expect ECRL to get stronger. LH with Frontier and FDL will be a solid 2.5 to 3rd ring of competitiveness. NPL will suffer the most. ECRL-NTX... Why? Not needed and will be embarrassing.

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Post by AtThePitch on 13/07/20, 08:18 pm

TxFutbal wrote:Isn't that ^ just how it typically goes though?  And by that I mean ... Not mucha difference between the 2nd and 3rd levels?  

May be a bit different story though in the upcoming year due to now having to compare the most elite, top level here in DFW with the 2nd level, won't it?

Agree.. I expect ECNL to have more separation in quality than ECRL.  I expect ECRL to get stronger.  LH with Frontier and FDL will be a solid 2.5 to 3rd ring of competitiveness.   NPL will suffer the most. ECRL-NTX... Why?  Not needed and will be embarrassing.  [/quote]

Here is a honest straight forward question.

Why do you care? If your child is on a team in FDL/LH and you are comfortable that that is the second best league, if that even matters, shouldn't you be happy.
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Post by TxFutbal on 13/07/20, 08:26 pm

I happen to believe FDL/Frontier/LH is a quality platform and serves a much needed place in NTX soccer. You combine these 3 platforms with State Cup and beyond and $ for $ it competes well. How many ECNL kids always seem to "slum it" around state cup time? Nuff said.

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Post by AtThePitch on 13/07/20, 08:48 pm

What I think should be the focus is the rules that allow just what you mentioned, then the rest would settle itself. If a league can't sustain itself it goes away.

As an example you can now have three u10 players on a boys classic league team. Never allowed u10s to play in a NTX sanctioned league before and now they can.
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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 14/07/20, 07:24 pm

AtThePitch wrote:What I think should be the focus is the rules that allow just what you mentioned, then the rest would settle itself. If a league can't sustain itself it goes away.

As an example you can now have three u10 players on a boys classic league team.  Never allowed u10s to play in a NTX sanctioned league before and now they can.



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