'04 Girls FBR Rankings - 9-19-13

by Guest 19/09/13, 02:35 pm

Current Rankings include game results from 5/17/13 through Present Date

A few notes:

1) Liverpool '04 RASE is the de-facto #1 '04 girls team in NTX (unbeaten against any '04 NTX girls team for >1 year). They are not included in the FBR at this time due to a lack of games played against '04 girls opponents in the past 16 weeks

2) The teams currently listed in the FBR rankings have been confirmed as registered to play in an '04 division of a girls NTX academy league for Fall 2013, AND, have a minimum of 3 games played against other '04 opponents in the past 16 weeks.

3) The '04 FBR is still a bit "noisy" due to tournament data from May being deleted from the history on a weekly basis, along with new fall league results being added. I would expect the rankings to stabilize as we get into the month of October

'04 Girls FBR Rankings - 9-19-13 04_fbr14

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Current Inter-Tier Records
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by SD69 19/09/13, 03:02 pm

Lots of movement. Be interesting to see where these teams settle. Probably won't know for sure until some Thanksgiving/winter break tournaments as there is not a lot of cross play between the primetime/sdl leagues.

by SD69 19/09/13, 03:11 pm

Lots of weight given to the SDL side. Need DTS to do well in SDL1 and a couple of teams to do well against DTS in PTCL to drag some of these primetime teams into the upper echelon.

by Guest 19/09/13, 03:11 pm

soccerdad1969 wrote:Lots of movement. Be interesting to see where these teams settle. Probably won't know for sure until some Thanksgiving/winter break tournaments as there is not a lot of cross play between the primetime/sdl leagues.

Actually, not so much movement. No teams dropped out of the top 10, only 1 team dropped out of the top 20, and only 2 teams dropped out of the top 25. Some shuffling of spots, but no real Earth shattering moves up or down in the top 25.

A little more movement farther down the rankings, but not as surprising to see that happen down in that part of the rankings, especially this early in a new league season.

by SD69 19/09/13, 03:22 pm

You're right. Guess I was focused a little too much on FCD Predators drop given their SOS and GSSC drop with their only loss against a very good and maybe a little underrated FCD Premier team.

by Guest 19/09/13, 03:34 pm

Interesting. What games I've seen over the last few weeks I have to say that the top 20 04 teams are way weaker than where the top 20 03 teams were this time last year. Anyone disagree?

by Soccerboy 19/09/13, 03:56 pm

That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play

by Guest 19/09/13, 04:27 pm

Soccerboy wrote:That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play

Ok, top 10? Take SRSA and RASE outta the equation as they're freaks! Would LFS beat DTS 03? No way. DT Scott beat RASE 03? Nope. Etc

by Keepersdad 19/09/13, 04:41 pm

It's interesting to note that out of 18 04' teams playing in TGPL and/or PTCL (Silver), 12 of the teams moved down or stayed in the same spot based on a week to week comparison. 6 of the teams moved up. It was a net loss of 20 places in the rankings for all of the teams combined.

Good Lord I have too much time on my hands...

by 2good4u 19/09/13, 04:43 pm

Master Bates wrote:
Soccerboy wrote:That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play
Ok, top 10? Take SRSA and RASE outta the equation as they're freaks! Would LFS beat DTS 03? No way. DT Scott beat RASE 03? Nope. Etc

If you believe what you say, why are you excluding RASE and SRSA? Oh wait, maybe it's because you have ties to RASE. Would RASE beat SRSA? Don't bet on it.

by Guest 19/09/13, 04:45 pm

2good4u wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
Soccerboy wrote:That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play
Ok, top 10? Take SRSA and RASE outta the equation as they're freaks! Would LFS beat DTS 03? No way. DT Scott beat RASE 03? Nope. Etc
If you believe what you say, why are you excluding RASE and SRSA? Oh wait, maybe it's because you have ties to RASE. Would RASE beat SRSA? Don't bet on it.

I take out RASE because they beat a lot of the top ten 03 teams. If you mean Liverpool as my ties to RASE then fair enough.

by Shelby427 19/09/13, 04:59 pm

The top team in any age group cannot beat the top 1-3 in the older age group.

Even the mighty SRSA 03s would not be able to beat top 3 02 teams.

by 2good4u 19/09/13, 05:02 pm

Master Bates wrote:
2good4u wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
Soccerboy wrote:That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play
Ok, top 10? Take SRSA and RASE outta the equation as they're freaks! Would LFS beat DTS 03? No way. DT Scott beat RASE 03? Nope. Etc
If you believe what you say, why are you excluding RASE and SRSA? Oh wait, maybe it's because you have ties to RASE. Would RASE beat SRSA? Don't bet on it.

I take out RASE because they beat a lot of the top ten 03 teams. If you mean Liverpool as my ties to RASE then fair enough.

So I guess you include LP Dalglish and LP Barnes as not being as good?

by SD69 19/09/13, 05:04 pm

Lets see. Went back and got an FBR fro about a year ago for '03s. Including RASE/SRSA (I added in RASE as #1 for the 04's):
SRSA03 > RASE04
Beiber Beiber Fever < LFS04
DTS03 < DT Scott 04
Sting03 < DTS 04
FCD Premier 03 > TX Spirit 04
FCD Predator 03 < TX Spirit North 04
LP Dalglish 03 > Lady Aztecs 04
LP Hilliard 03 < Sting Scarfone 04
Sting Mendoza 03 < LP Barnes 04
LP Rush 03 > Sting East 04

These are very subjective, but my list has 04's with a lead of 6-4. This doesn't even include LP Dalglish as they are current way underrated at 10. There might be a few that can be switched, but to call the '04s 'way weaker' is erroneous, IMO of course.

The link to last years FBR: https://www.txsoccer.net/t13262-03-girls-fbr-rankings-09-12-12

by Guest 19/09/13, 05:12 pm

2good4u wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
2good4u wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
Soccerboy wrote:That's just begging for a fight. How many 04 teams played up (against 03), last year and the 04's destroyed them. This year, as with every year there has been a lot of player movement as teams get ready for select. In a few months as things settle, you will see better play
Ok, top 10? Take SRSA and RASE outta the equation as they're freaks! Would LFS beat DTS 03? No way. DT Scott beat RASE 03? Nope. Etc
If you believe what you say, why are you excluding RASE and SRSA? Oh wait, maybe it's because you have ties to RASE. Would RASE beat SRSA? Don't bet on it.

I take out RASE because they beat a lot of the top ten 03 teams. If you mean Liverpool as my ties to RASE then fair enough.

So I guess you include LP Dalglish and LP Barnes as not being as good?

Yes

by ballboy 19/09/13, 05:12 pm

Master Bates wrote:Interesting. What games I've seen over the last few weeks I have to say that the top 20 04 teams are way weaker than where the top 20 03 teams were this time last year. Anyone disagree?

Why does it matter one way or the other?

by Guest 19/09/13, 05:13 pm

soccerdad1969 wrote:Lets see. Went back and got an FBR fro about a year ago for '03s. Including RASE/SRSA (I added in RASE as #1 for the 04's):
SRSA03 > RASE04
Beiber Beiber Beiber Fever < LFS04
DTS03 < DT Scott 04
Sting03 < DTS 04
FCD Premier 03 > TX Spirit 04
FCD Predator 03 < TX Spirit North 04
LP Dalglish 03 > Lady Aztecs 04
LP Hilliard 03 < Sting Scarfone 04
Sting Mendoza 03 < LP Barnes 04
LP Rush 03 > Sting East 04

These are very subjective, but my list has 04's with a lead of 6-4. This doesn't even include LP Dalglish as they are current way underrated at 10. There might be a few that can be switched, but to call the '04s 'way weaker' is erroneous, IMO of course.

The link to last years FBR: https://www.txsoccer.net/t13262-03-girls-fbr-rankings-09-12-12

Some real strange opinions in there!

by Guest 19/09/13, 05:16 pm

ballboy wrote:
Master Bates wrote:Interesting. What games I've seen over the last few weeks I have to say that the top 20 04 teams are way weaker than where the top 20 03 teams were this time last year. Anyone disagree?
Why does it matter one way or the other?

I think the level of play has dropped. Is it down to coaching or talent?
Don't get me wrong there's a lot of kickball in the 03 age group but I feel that they are just stronger (just IMO).

by ballboy 19/09/13, 05:20 pm

There are several more teams in the 04 group as opposed to the 03's as well. Maybe some of the teams are diluted due to more options available

by Guest 19/09/13, 05:47 pm

ballboy wrote:There are several more teams in the 04 group as opposed to the 03's as well. Maybe some of the teams are diluted due to more options available

You could be right.

by SwitchDaField 19/09/13, 06:22 pm

At a glance, what is happening over there with FCD Predator? WOW, #43.. That's a major plummet since last fall. Any insights?

by mcik17 19/09/13, 06:24 pm

Shelby427 wrote:
The top team in any age group cannot beat the top 1-3 in the older age group.

Even the mighty SRSA 03s would not be able to beat top 3 02 teams.

I wouldnt say never! FCD Premier 02 beat DT 01 in a tourny ,a couple of months after DT 01 had just won State Cup. The 01 top 6 teams are all pretty competetive, but most would put the DT 01 team in the top 3 at that time.

by Guest 25/09/13, 11:31 pm

Shelby427 wrote:
The top team in any age group cannot beat the top 1-3 in the older age group.

Even the mighty SRSA 03s would not be able to beat top 3 02 teams.

Not true. Before turning select the top 03Gs were considered SRSA, LP Elite, and FCD Gold.
RASE 04 beat two of these three in their final year of academy

by Shelby427 26/09/13, 07:22 am

SoftballDad wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
The top team in any age group cannot beat the top 1-3 in the older age group.

Even the mighty SRSA 03s would not be able to beat top 3 02 teams.
Not true. Before turning select the top 03Gs were considered SRSA, LP Elite, and FCD Gold.
RASE 04 beat two of these three in their final year of academy

I don't know about those games but the last game I saw of Rase 04 was against DTS 03 and I think DTS keeper touched the ball maybe 3-4 times. Score was 3-0... could just as easily been 6-0.

Don't get me wrong... that is a good result against DTS, but I hate to break it to you that Rase 04 is in fact mortal.

by jsullivan81 26/09/13, 08:49 am

SoftballDad wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
The top team in any age group cannot beat the top 1-3 in the older age group.

Even the mighty SRSA 03s would not be able to beat top 3 02 teams.
Not true. Before turning select the top 03Gs were considered SRSA, LP Elite, and FCD Gold.
RASE 04 beat two of these three in their final year of academy

You may want to disclose the rest of it.... They also lost to several teams ranked below #5 and low as #37 in the 03 group. But, good attempt.

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