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7.2 weeks into the season
Biggest disappointments?
Working out pretty much as I thought.
The top 7 teams are still the top 7
We do have DT knocking on the door for that 7th spot
they have tied 2 top 7 teams and lost to 1
they have a tough game this Saturday vs FCD Gold
Seems like we have to wait until spring for the top 7 to really start playing each other on a weekly basis
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Re: 7.2 weeks into the season
There is a visible point gap forming between potential D1 and D2 teams.Just Curious wrote:What is the biggest surprise?
Biggest disappointments?
Working out pretty much as I thought.
The top 7 teams are still the top 7
We do have DT knocking on the door for that 7th spot
they have tied 2 top 7 teams and lost to 1
they have a tough game this Saturday vs FCD Gold
Seems like we have to wait until spring for the top 7 to really start playing each other on a weekly basis
I think the last three games will tie up many loose ends on pecking order - enough to make some confident assertions at least. So I will save my commentary until all 10 fall games have been played.
I will however say that DT03 and Sting West are the two biggest surprises of the division so far - I would have expected their results to be flip-flopped.
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Agree that the season is mostly playing out about as expected and the spring half will be interesting.
Man you guys sure are quiet now compared to the good old " '03 Division Outlook" post days of old. Hope everyone's having fun!
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Biggest disappointment to me is LP Elite. They lack the luster they had going into the season. Offensively way behind all the teams ahead of them. Defensively they still appear to be a good solid team. LW needs to find his forward some help. The one against 4 is not working out so well.
I agree all others seem to be along the path as expected with the exception of Sting West. This team has me puzzled. While once a very strong team all around, it appears they can't find a rhythm. Could it have been the Coaching change? DT03 & Sting Hilton both transitioned nicely under the helm of a new coach but hey each team is different.
Lochwood warned us about FCD South Blue a while back but I'm guessing he was a bit premature with his warning. Started from the Bottom did the same with LP Barnes, maybe he was also a bit premature. Barnes however seems to be in a far better position right now though but it will only get worse as they will have Solar Red, Sting Gut, FCD Gold, DTS and FCD Prem on their Spring schedule.
It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out. The Spring will be full of competitive games on a more weekly basis. Who will be the team to give Solar Red a run for the title? Will it be DTS, FCD Gold, Sting G or even sooner for the challenge, LP Elite. Their defense might be strong enough to hold off the Solar attack but can LP manage to score on Solar??? We shall see in about 2 weeks.
If I had to predict who will remain in D1 & who will comprise D2 I would think it would be something like this & in no particular order. D1 would be the current Top eight in the most recent LHGCL standings along with Cosmos and FWFC Black. D2 = everyone else. Is it possible for anyone to drop all the way to D3 after this year and have the top finisher from D3 move up or does that happen only after the 2nd year of Select? More importantly which of these teams will not still be around next year?
Good luck to all the teams, those mentioned and those not. Still a lot more soccer to be played. Best advice to all is to keep em healthy and happy and enjoy these moments while they last.
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Re: 7.2 weeks into the season
Biggest disappointments? No cops have been called to any of the games yet.
Everyone has been on their best behavior since LHGCL started. Oh how I miss the days of TGPL and the drama that went along with it. Good job to all the teams for keeping it somewhat classy.
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Re: 7.2 weeks into the season
Haha, maybe when the D1 pressure cooker gets turned up this spring some cra-cra will show back up. If not, we always have the 04s going select to look forward to...YRUH8N wrote:What is the biggest surprise? No cops have been called to any of the games yet.
Biggest disappointments? No cops have been called to any of the games yet.
Everyone has been on their best behavior since LHGCL started. Oh how I miss the days of TGPL and the drama that went along with it. Good job to all the teams for keeping it somewhat classy.
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lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
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silentparent wrote:D1 would be the current Top eight in the most recent LHGCL standings along with Cosmos and FWFC Black. D2 = everyone else
lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
And what if she does? I am entitled to an opinion right? Besides a person can be a little optimistic.
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There are 4 teams with 7 points at 2-1-4. I would think that all of those teams are still in the hunt. Plus 2 more teams with six points that shouldn't be eliminated already. This group of 6 includes both Cosmos and FWFC so I don't count those teams out (regardless of where my daughter and her friends play).silentparent wrote:
lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
I think that Herradura and Interpreter have valid points: lets see where the teams stand at the intermission and take a look at strength of remaining opponents for the final 9 games.
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cosmos, fwfc d2......PlanoBound wrote:There are 4 teams with 7 points at 2-1-4. I would think that all of those teams are still in the hunt. Plus 2 more teams with six points that shouldn't be eliminated already. This group of 6 includes both Cosmos and FWFC so I don't count those teams out (regardless of where my daughter and her friends play).silentparent wrote:
lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
I think that Herradura and Interpreter have valid points: lets see where the teams stand at the intermission and take a look at strength of remaining opponents for the final 9 games.
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So Andro is the 10th team in?silentparent wrote:cosmos, fwfc d2......PlanoBound wrote:There are 4 teams with 7 points at 2-1-4. I would think that all of those teams are still in the hunt. Plus 2 more teams with six points that shouldn't be eliminated already. This group of 6 includes both Cosmos and FWFC so I don't count those teams out (regardless of where my daughter and her friends play).silentparent wrote:
lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
I think that Herradura and Interpreter have valid points: lets see where the teams stand at the intermission and take a look at strength of remaining opponents for the final 9 games.
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i think they skate in due to strong defense, we'll see..PlanoBound wrote:So Andro is the 10th team in?silentparent wrote:cosmos, fwfc d2......PlanoBound wrote:There are 4 teams with 7 points at 2-1-4. I would think that all of those teams are still in the hunt. Plus 2 more teams with six points that shouldn't be eliminated already. This group of 6 includes both Cosmos and FWFC so I don't count those teams out (regardless of where my daughter and her friends play).silentparent wrote:
lol, guess your daughter and her friend play on the cosmos and fwfc. the top 10 now will be the top ten at the end of the season. cosmos, fwfc, definitely d2...
I think that Herradura and Interpreter have valid points: lets see where the teams stand at the intermission and take a look at strength of remaining opponents for the final 9 games.
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If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
Teams 6-15 all played multiple games where the goal differential was 1 or it was a draw:
Sting Hilton: 5 games
Sting Gutierrez: 4 games
Liverpool Elite: 4 games
Texans Girls Dallas: 4 games
Cosmos: 5 games
Rush: 6 games
Andromeda: 5 games
Barnes: 4 games
FC Dallas Red: 3 games
FWFC: 3 games
Keegan: 7 games
Since teams 6-15 played that many close games, it only took one unluck/lucky shot to be up/down in the standings. If Keegan just connects on 3 more shots, they are in the top 10. If Gutierrez misses 3 shots, they aren't in the top 10.
If stratification happens next year, then I doubt the peanut gallery psychics are right about the top 8. Top 5, perhaps.
If stratification happens this year, then the top 8 are already settled and the only thing left to fight for is #9 and #10. Given the remaining schedule, I'd say those last two spots would most likely be Cosmos and either Rush or Barnes.
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and with your post, welcome to the peanut gallery.....NoFanOfDrama wrote:Does the D1/D2 stratification happen this Fall? Or does it happen in the Spring?
If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
Teams 6-15 all played multiple games where the goal differential was 1 or it was a draw:
Sting Hilton: 5 games
Sting Gutierrez: 4 games
Liverpool Elite: 4 games
Texans Girls Dallas: 4 games
Cosmos: 5 games
Rush: 6 games
Andromeda: 5 games
Barnes: 4 games
FC Dallas Red: 3 games
FWFC: 3 games
Keegan: 7 games
Since teams 6-15 played that many close games, it only took one unluck/lucky shot to be up/down in the standings. If Keegan just connects on 3 more shots, they are in the top 10. If Gutierrez misses 3 shots, they aren't in the top 10.
If stratification happens next year, then I doubt the peanut gallery psychics are right about the top 8. Top 5, perhaps.
If stratification happens this year, then the top 8 are already settled and the only thing left to fight for is #9 and #10. Given the remaining schedule, I'd say those last two spots would most likely be Cosmos and either Rush or Barnes.
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Thank you for the welcome, but do you know if stratification happens this fall or in the spring?silentparent wrote:and with your post, welcome to the peanut gallery.....NoFanOfDrama wrote:Does the D1/D2 stratification happen this Fall? Or does it happen in the Spring?
If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
Teams 6-15 all played multiple games where the goal differential was 1 or it was a draw:
Sting Hilton: 5 games
Sting Gutierrez: 4 games
Liverpool Elite: 4 games
Texans Girls Dallas: 4 games
Cosmos: 5 games
Rush: 6 games
Andromeda: 5 games
Barnes: 4 games
FC Dallas Red: 3 games
FWFC: 3 games
Keegan: 7 games
Since teams 6-15 played that many close games, it only took one unluck/lucky shot to be up/down in the standings. If Keegan just connects on 3 more shots, they are in the top 10. If Gutierrez misses 3 shots, they aren't in the top 10.
If stratification happens next year, then I doubt the peanut gallery psychics are right about the top 8. Top 5, perhaps.
If stratification happens this year, then the top 8 are already settled and the only thing left to fight for is #9 and #10. Given the remaining schedule, I'd say those last two spots would most likely be Cosmos and either Rush or Barnes.
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Not until the spring season is finished.NoFanOfDrama wrote:Thank you for the welcome, but do you know if stratification happens this fall or in the spring?silentparent wrote:and with your post, welcome to the peanut gallery.....NoFanOfDrama wrote:Does the D1/D2 stratification happen this Fall? Or does it happen in the Spring?
If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
Teams 6-15 all played multiple games where the goal differential was 1 or it was a draw:
Sting Hilton: 5 games
Sting Gutierrez: 4 games
Liverpool Elite: 4 games
Texans Girls Dallas: 4 games
Cosmos: 5 games
Rush: 6 games
Andromeda: 5 games
Barnes: 4 games
FC Dallas Red: 3 games
FWFC: 3 games
Keegan: 7 games
Since teams 6-15 played that many close games, it only took one unluck/lucky shot to be up/down in the standings. If Keegan just connects on 3 more shots, they are in the top 10. If Gutierrez misses 3 shots, they aren't in the top 10.
If stratification happens next year, then I doubt the peanut gallery psychics are right about the top 8. Top 5, perhaps.
If stratification happens this year, then the top 8 are already settled and the only thing left to fight for is #9 and #10. Given the remaining schedule, I'd say those last two spots would most likely be Cosmos and either Rush or Barnes.
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How did you get 30 as the magic number?herradura wrote:Its really not that hard to figure out. It is a race to 30pts. If your team makes it past that mark - they are assured a spot in D1 plain and simple.
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25 is the magic number and has been the cutoff point the past two years for the top 10 teams at u11Questionforyou wrote:How did you get 30 as the magic number?herradura wrote:Its really not that hard to figure out. It is a race to 30pts. If your team makes it past that mark - they are assured a spot in D1 plain and simple.
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Since LH went to the 20 team U11 Supergroup format with the '99's, every team scoring 25 points or more has made D1 for U12. One team with 24 made D1, one team with 24 made D2.Pinnochio wrote:25 is the magic number and has been the cutoff point the past two years for the top 10 teams at u11Questionforyou wrote:How did you get 30 as the magic number?herradura wrote:Its really not that hard to figure out. It is a race to 30pts. If your team makes it past that mark - they are assured a spot in D1 plain and simple.
So while not an absolute, 25 does appear to be the "magic number". 30 gives a team plenty of breathing room.
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Most people familiar with the '03 teams would say FC Dallas Premier is a lock to make D1. That puts the number up to 6 certain teams.NoFanOfDrama wrote:
If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
If 25 really is the magic number than Sting Hilton only needs to win 3 more games (and throw in a tie) the rest of the season. That puts the number up to 7 certain teams.
Without looking at schedules, Texans and LP Rush only need 4 more wins with 12/11 games left to play. That puts the number of likely D1 teams up to 9.
Now I am not saying I'll bet my house on those 9 teams (probably the first 6), but I wouldn't say that it is ridiculous to try and predict past #5 (nor is this nearly the most foolish discussion on these boards).
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U11 Promotion / Relegation:Interpreter wrote:Biggest surprise to me is F ever. I thought they were truly a D1 caliber team but have proven unworthy so far in the super group. Maybe the Coach will regroup and have a better run in the Spring. I never would have imagined them to be at the very bottom of the pack.
Biggest disappointment to me is LP Elite. They lack the luster they had going into the season. Offensively way behind all the teams ahead of them. Defensively they still appear to be a good solid team. LW needs to find his forward some help. The one against 4 is not working out so well.
I agree all others seem to be along the path as expected with the exception of Sting West. This team has me puzzled. While once a very strong team all around, it appears they can't find a rhythm. Could it have been the Coaching change? DT03 & Sting Hilton both transitioned nicely under the helm of a new coach but hey each team is different.
Lochwood warned us about FCD South Blue a while back but I'm guessing he was a bit premature with his warning. Started from the Bottom did the same with LP Barnes, maybe he was also a bit premature. Barnes however seems to be in a far better position right now though but it will only get worse as they will have Solar Red, Sting Gut, FCD Gold, DTS and FCD Prem on their Spring schedule.
It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out. The Spring will be full of competitive games on a more weekly basis. Who will be the team to give Solar Red a run for the title? Will it be DTS, FCD Gold, Sting G or even sooner for the challenge, LP Elite. Their defense might be strong enough to hold off the Solar attack but can LP manage to score on Solar??? We shall see in about 2 weeks.
If I had to predict who will remain in D1 & who will comprise D2 I would think it would be something like this & in no particular order. D1 would be the current Top eight in the most recent LHGCL standings along with Cosmos and FWFC Black. D2 = everyone else. Is it possible for anyone to drop all the way to D3 after this year and have the top finisher from D3 move up or does that happen only after the 2nd year of Select? More importantly which of these teams will not still be around next year?
Good luck to all the teams, those mentioned and those not. Still a lot more soccer to be played. Best advice to all is to keep em healthy and happy and enjoy these moments while they last.
D1 - Top Ten from Super Group
D2 - #'s 11 through 18 from Super Group, top 2 finishers from D3
D3 - #'s 19 & 20 from Super Group, then not sure of the D3 teams how many keep their bye and how many spots for qualification. Sorry, someone else can do the research
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Byes will be based on total points earned throughout the entire soccer year.
U11 DI = 20 Teams
1st thru 10th place earn a BYE and remain in DI
11th thru 18th place earn a BYE and form DII
19th and 20th place earn a BYE and move to DIII
U11 DIII = 10 Teams
1st and 2nd place earn a BYE and move to DII
3rd thru 6th place earn a BYE and remain in DIII
7th thru 10th place do not receive a BYE and must re-qualify
There will be 4 open spots for DIII in QT
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this is well put and those deep in the hole get an ever increasing impossible hill to climb mathematically....PlanoBound wrote:Most people familiar with the '03 teams would say FC Dallas Premier is a lock to make D1. That puts the number up to 6 certain teams.NoFanOfDrama wrote:
If it happens in the Spring, then anything outside the top 5 is a ridiculous thing to try to call right now...but that obviously doesn't stop many fools from trying.
If 25 really is the magic number than Sting Hilton only needs to win 3 more games (and throw in a tie) the rest of the season. That puts the number up to 7 certain teams.
Without looking at schedules, Texans and LP Rush only need 4 more wins with 12/11 games left to play. That puts the number of likely D1 teams up to 9.
Now I am not saying I'll bet my house on those 9 teams (probably the first 6), but I wouldn't say that it is ridiculous to try and predict past #5 (nor is this nearly the most foolish discussion on these boards).
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