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Post by GGoat 02/09/14, 09:40 am

We had a game this weekend the forward and defender was going for a ball the defender knocked the forward off the ball and kicked it to the keeper who picked it up and punted it. How and why is that not a call but also you dont see it called very much. Another one the forward kicked the ball the defender put her foot up the ball went off her foot and the keeper caught it. It wasnt a deliberate kick or pass I think it would have been called at a college level.

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Post by ElClassico 02/09/14, 09:47 am

If the ref doesn't not view the pass as deliberate than it's not a "pass back" so the second definitely wasn't. As for the first one....
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Post by MoveYourFeet 02/09/14, 10:01 am

GGoat wrote:We had a game this weekend the forward and defender was going for a ball the defender knocked the forward off the ball and kicked it to the keeper who picked it up and punted it. How and why is that not a call but also you dont see it called very much. Another one the forward kicked the ball the defender put her foot up the ball went off her foot and the keeper caught it. It wasnt a deliberate kick or pass I think it would have been called at a college level.

Here's the problem. There is what you saw, and then there is what happened. It is hard to say what to call from a descriptive internet posting. But like was said before, it must be a purposeful pass back. Not a deflection, not a header, not a knee, but an intentional pass with the foot back to the keeper.

The ref has to judge the intent of the defender. If it is questionable at all, he isn't going to call it and give the opposing team a PK. When in doubt, don't make a call that could change the outcome of a game.
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Post by jsullivan81 02/09/14, 10:09 am

Pass backs are rarely called it seems. Not sure a ref wants to disect the intent of young kids. Also, a pass back infraction does not equal a PK. It is, or at least should be an indirect free kick. However, at one of my son's games recently, it was called and a PK was given. The coach had no idea it was wrong, but the GK's dad did. It was fun to watch.

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Post by SD69 02/09/14, 10:11 am

PK not given in this instance but indirect free kick. Good points otherwise.
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Post by SD69 02/09/14, 10:11 am

Oops! Sully beat me to it.
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Post by MoveYourFeet 02/09/14, 10:18 am

True. I typed too quickly and didn't use much thought. Always a problem.
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Post by Coach&Ref 02/09/14, 10:36 am

GGoat wrote:We had a game this weekend the forward and defender was going for a ball the defender knocked the forward off the ball and kicked it to the keeper who picked it up and punted it. How and why is that not a call but also you dont see it called very much. Another one the forward kicked the ball the defender put her foot up the ball went off her foot and the keeper caught it. It wasnt a deliberate kick or pass I think it would have been called at a college level.

Since you don't seem to want to believe us Referees, which is apparent by both your other thread and this one, please reference this site and download all the information you want, All of this will help you pass the grade 7 exam:

http://areferee.com/soccer/resources.php

Also, here is the like to US Soccer's online Grade 8 course materials with videos. Just by watching them, you can get a certificate and know that you have the online knowledge to figure it out:

http://www.ussoccer.com/Referees/Resource-Center/Online-Training/Grade-8-Referee-Course.aspx

Here is the Grade 7:

http://www.ussoccer.com/Referees/Resource-Center/Online-Training/Grade-7-Referee-Course.aspx

After you have gone through this material you may understand the most important continuous saying to the point of being ad nauseum:

IN THE OPINION OF THE REFEREE!

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Post by GGoat 02/09/14, 10:50 am

coach ref you posted this in the wrong thread it should have gone in the thread Why is every conversation a fight because people like you just want to fight

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Post by Coach&Ref 02/09/14, 11:17 am

GGoat wrote:coach ref you posted this in the wrong thread it should have gone in the thread Why is every conversation a fight because people like you just want to fight

I'm not trying to fight with you goat. I'm trying to to get you to educate yourself, so you don't feel the need to come on here and bash refs or clog the forums with your posts that refer to refs.

Just educate yourself and post something different for a change.

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Post by GGoat 02/09/14, 11:26 am

Ok sure Coach you are a great teacher thank you so much

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Post by Coach&Ref 02/09/14, 11:51 am

GGoat wrote:Ok sure Coach you are a great teacher thank you so much

You don't get it goat.

TEACH YOURSELF!

I don't know how much clearer I could be.

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Post by GGoat 02/09/14, 12:18 pm

You dont get it coach the refs are not calling it what good would it be if everyone on the sidelines know the rules but it is not called. You just want to fight and try to make us know it nothing parents look dumb so stop trying to stir up crap CAN I MAKE IT MORE CLEAR

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Post by FierceLightning 03/09/14, 08:09 pm

GGoat wrote:Ok sure Coach you are a great teacher thank you so much

Do you NOT REALIZE that your sarcasm is...fighting?...you complain about fighting and then you fight! Okey Dokey

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Post by Triumph FC 03/09/14, 11:35 pm

GGoat wrote:You dont get it coach the refs are not calling it what good would it be if everyone on the sidelines know the rules but it is not called. You just want to fight and try to make us know it nothing parents look dumb so stop trying to stir up crap CAN I MAKE IT MORE CLEAR
No one has to make you look dumb, you do that yourself! Razz
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Post by Guest 04/09/14, 08:05 am

Another Keeper/Referee thread. How fun!

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Post by SocDad 04/09/14, 09:19 am

Ohh geeze....this is turning out to going to be another 15 page thread of bashing GGoat... Smile

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Post by SteamingBean 04/09/14, 07:30 pm

I'll contribute briefly to the next 15 page keeper-ref fiasco thread, but only because I'm stuck in a business trip hotel bar in west Texas (why can't I be stuck in 'Orleans or Vegas? Much to their chagrin, EVERY time my keeper girls have had their head up their butts and picked up the ball off the foot of a defender it has been called. I don't recall a time that it hasn't. Okay back to my IPA and Kobe beef..
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