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Post by ElClassico on 31/10/14, 07:32 am

I'm really not trying to put anyone down but I've been scratching my head about something. Major club in NTX has 20 U11 teams, 1 is in D1 of Lake Highlands, 5 in Plano D1, and 1 in Plano D2. Where do the other 13 play? If I counted correctly the 7 teams have 21 wins combined so far, so that's a 3 win average per team from a club that arguably has the most money / resources in NTX. What's up? Is it coaching, leadership, costs?
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Post by Lefty on 31/10/14, 07:51 am

ElClassico wrote:I'm really not trying to put anyone down but I've been scratching my head about something. Major club in NTX has 20 U11 teams, 1 is in D1 of Lake Highlands, 5 in Plano D1, and 1 in Plano D2. Where do the other 13 play? If I counted correctly the 7 teams have 21 wins combined so far, so that's a 3 win average per team from a club that arguably has the most money / resources in NTX. What's up? Is it coaching, leadership, costs?

It is simple math.

They all generate approximately the same amount of revenue for the club and coaches.

The LH D1 team is no more valuable to the club financially than a PPL D2 team.

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Post by Guest on 31/10/14, 08:23 am

First, ask yourself "What does this club have that no other club in NTX has?"  Then, go take a closer look at the other 13 U11 teams...  figure out what is different about those teams from the 7 you mention...  Go find where a large number of those teams play (this shouldn't be difficult once you figure out the difference in those 13 teams)...  You should then be able to see what the clear focus of that club is and you will have a large part of your answer.

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Post by Guest on 31/10/14, 08:24 am

"Show me the money!!!"

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Post by purplefrog on 31/10/14, 08:34 am

Nobody is forcing the parents to pay the money. My guess is that most parents just want to be able to say "my daughter plays select soccer for __________". I never understood why someone would pay that much money for their daughter to play in one of the lower leagues. Just my two cents.
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Post by Hooligan on 31/10/14, 08:50 am

I would say not to read too much into it. It could be a recruiting issue, it could be philosophical.

I mean - maybe the club in question chooses to let coaches be autonomous, and they don't sanction or encourage the creation of "super-teams"? Perhaps they encourage the teams to keep the rec "cores" together for the enjoyment factor/lower pressure until they get older? Some clubs obviously go for the super-team approach, and it works for them. They may use that as a carrot for the individual player (or parents) as encouragment to step-up their game - either to make the super-team or to keep from losing their spot. Some kids thrive on that, others end up developing less due to the constant pressure. Some shut down completely. It really depends on the kid and what they need.

One approach demands perfection to survive in the system - which can work as a major motivational tool, but can backfire in a loss of love for the game. The other allows mistakes for the sake of development, reduced stress and/or social support systems - but can backfire in a less than desireable Win/Loss record.

Who knows. It all gets blown apart when ECNL starts anyway.
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Post by sota34 on 31/10/14, 09:20 am

ElClassico wrote:I'm really not trying to put anyone down but I've been scratching my head about something. Major club in NTX has 20 U11 teams, 1 is in D1 of Lake Highlands, 5 in Plano D1, and 1 in Plano D2. Where do the other 13 play? If I counted correctly the 7 teams have 21 wins combined so far, so that's a 3 win average per team from a club that arguably has the most money / resources in NTX. What's up? Is it coaching, leadership, costs?

the other 13 are Boys teams

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Post by Guest on 31/10/14, 09:22 am

"Check out the big brain on Brett."

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Post by ElClassico on 31/10/14, 10:22 am

sota34 wrote:
ElClassico wrote:I'm really not trying to put anyone down but I've been scratching my head about something. Major club in NTX has 20 U11 teams, 1 is in D1 of Lake Highlands, 5 in Plano D1, and 1 in Plano D2. Where do the other 13 play? If I counted correctly the 7 teams have 21 wins combined so far, so that's a 3 win average per team from a club that arguably has the most money / resources in NTX. What's up? Is it coaching, leadership, costs?

the other 13 are Boys teams

Ahh, that makes sense the site I had looked at lumped them together. I just went to the new one and it shows the separation. So that's half my question ;-)
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Post by soccerjack on 31/10/14, 11:42 am

ElClassico wrote:
sota34 wrote:
ElClassico wrote:I'm really not trying to put anyone down but I've been scratching my head about something. Major club in NTX has 20 U11 teams, 1 is in D1 of Lake Highlands, 5 in Plano D1, and 1 in Plano D2. Where do the other 13 play? If I counted correctly the 7 teams have 21 wins combined so far, so that's a 3 win average per team from a club that arguably has the most money / resources in NTX. What's up? Is it coaching, leadership, costs?

the other 13 are Boys teams

Ahh, that makes sense the site I had looked at lumped them together. I just went to the new one and it shows the separation. So that's half my question ;-)

You didn't have a question. Your intent was to call out a clubs crappy performance. The real answer is "if someone is willing to pay for it...you may as well charge for it. "
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Post by ElClassico on 31/10/14, 11:50 am

No, it actually wasn't...my intention that is. I'm just interested in understanding more about the club in question. I have a coworker that asked about select and the club in question and wanted to see if I could get some honest opinions (yea I know, this isn't the place for honesty). My personal felling from what I've seen is that they care much more about the boys side and the girls are just money makers for the boys.
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Post by go99 on 31/10/14, 11:56 am

to be fair the boys are just money makers too. And hey since somebody metioned ECNL maybe all the parents are there because their DD plays for a ECNL club
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Post by soccerjack on 31/10/14, 12:06 pm

go99 wrote:to be fair the boys are just money makers too.  And hey since somebody metioned ECNL maybe all the parents are there because their DD plays for a ECNL club

Just not on the ecnl team...lol. Those kids will all come from the non ecnl clubs that develop soccer players.
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Post by soccerjack on 31/10/14, 12:16 pm

soccerjack wrote:
go99 wrote:to be fair the boys are just money makers too.  And hey since somebody metioned ECNL maybe all the parents are there because their DD plays for a ECNL club

Just not on the ecnl team...lol. Those kids will all come from the non ecnl clubs that develop soccer players.

In fairness it is select soccer...you select how you will pay..then your dd will play.
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Post by go99 on 31/10/14, 12:18 pm

oh they never tell you that part until later.  But first:



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