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Post by jogobonito06 on 24/05/16, 03:58 pm

Rut ro....Big Ern let the cat out of the bag.....LOL

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Post by thunderlipz on 24/05/16, 04:01 pm

It's funny, all these big clubs keep putting Jr this and Jr that on these recruiting post on this PDL thing and it seems like they all know PDL has zero to do with ECNL. I've heard from so many parents that keep saying but this coach told me its Jr ECNL. It's a lie plain and simple! The only thing made available by Jr ECNL are the Jr ECNL events put on by ECNL! Isn't it enough to have ECNL as a recruiting tool? Why lie to people and mislead them into believing PDL is the next greatest thing? NTX soccer never disappoints in over the top garbage!!

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Post by thunderlipz on 24/05/16, 04:03 pm

I for one like the idea of composite teams, this will generate more opportunities for young ladies all around the country to participate in ECNL and gain those experiences.

Big E, slow down on the DA talk. Your getting way ahead of yourself here!

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Post by Big Ern on 24/05/16, 04:15 pm

thunderlipz wrote:It's funny, all these big clubs keep putting Jr this and Jr that on these recruiting post on this PDL thing and it seems like they all know PDL has zero to do with ECNL. I've heard from so many parents that keep saying but this coach told me its Jr ECNL. It's a lie plain and simple! The only thing made available by Jr ECNL are the Jr ECNL events put on by ECNL! Isn't it enough to have ECNL as a recruiting tool? Why lie to people and mislead them into believing PDL is the next greatest thing? NTX soccer never disappoints in over the top garbage!!

Ouch ... sounds like this is a bit of a sore subject lipz --

Simply put, the five DFW ECNL clubs all have Jr ECNL programs at U13 (04 this year). They will participate in 3 official regional Jr ECNL events over the upcoming year in Tulsa, Dallas and Houston.

As mentioned earlier and I think you understand, the new LH league is not an ECNL program and there likely aren't any Coaches at this level 'misleading' parents to think it is. It is a league being put together by LH at the request of the DFW ECNL clubs to increase consistency of higher level competition.

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Post by Texans.OneTeam on 24/05/16, 04:24 pm

D1 8: DALLAS TEXANS 04G RED DALLAS is playing 03s. If interested, PM or reachout to coach Johnny - 469.867.0614.

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Post by Can_I_Kick_It? on 24/05/16, 04:39 pm

Texans.OneTeam wrote:D1 8: DALLAS TEXANS 04G RED DALLAS is playing 03s. If interested, PM or reachout to coach Johnny - 469.867.0614.

WTF, who the hell is this guy?!

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Post by FCsoccer1 on 24/05/16, 04:50 pm

Johnny won't appreciate his number posted on these forums.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Post by thunderlipz on 24/05/16, 04:52 pm

BigErn wrote:
thunderlipz wrote:It's funny, all these big clubs keep putting Jr this and Jr that on these recruiting post on this PDL thing and it seems like they all know PDL has zero to do with ECNL. I've heard from so many parents that keep saying but this coach told me its Jr ECNL. It's a lie plain and simple! The only thing made available by Jr ECNL are the Jr ECNL events put on by ECNL! Isn't it enough to have ECNL as a recruiting tool? Why lie to people and mislead them into believing PDL is the next greatest thing? NTX soccer never disappoints in over the top garbage!!

Ouch ... sounds like this is a bit of a sore subject lipz --

Simply put, the five DFW ECNL clubs all have Jr ECNL programs at U13 (04 this year).  They will participate in 3 official regional Jr ECNL events over the upcoming year in Tulsa, Dallas and Houston.  

As mentioned earlier and I think you understand, the new LH league is not an ECNL program and there likely aren't any Coaches at this level 'misleading' parents to think it is.  It is a league being put together by LH at the request of the DFW ECNL clubs to increase consistency of higher level competition.
So just to be clear, the big 5 requested a league where no scores and no standings would be kept to create a higher level of consistent competition? Now I'm really confused!!

That makes no sense at all Big E? In an earlier post you referenced LH creating this league because they were in jeopardy of falling to Plano level? Which is it Big E?

Oh and if you think coaches aren't linking PDL with ECNL you better ask somebody, because it's happening everywhere. Just read all the teams looking post for PDL teams. Some people are even calling it Jr PDL.

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Post by Big Ern on 24/05/16, 06:00 pm

lipz --

2 questions ...

Are you reading what you're writing on this forum?

and

Are you reading what I've been writing today? The answers to all of your questions can be found in those posts.

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Post by thunderlipz on 24/05/16, 07:24 pm

BigErn wrote:lipz --

2 questions ...

Are you reading what you're writing on this forum?

and

Are you reading what I've been writing today?  The answers to all of your questions can be found in those posts.
well of courses biggie!!!

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Post by soccerjack on 24/05/16, 07:32 pm

thunderlipz wrote:
BigErn wrote:lipz --

2 questions ...

Are you reading what you're writing on this forum?

and

Are you reading what I've been writing today?  The answers to all of your questions can be found in those posts.
well of courses biggie!!!

Shouldn't you guys be at jrecnlpdlcompositemonopolisticmoneygrab tryouts?
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Post by thunderlipz on 24/05/16, 09:25 pm

soccerjack wrote:
thunderlipz wrote:
BigErn wrote:lipz --

2 questions ...

Are you reading what you're writing on this forum?

and

Are you reading what I've been writing today?  The answers to all of your questions can be found in those posts.
well of courses biggie!!!

Shouldn't you guys be at jrecnlpdlcompositemonopolisticmoneygrab tryouts?
hell naw!!!

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Post by TatonkaBurger on 25/05/16, 09:19 am

So PDL will have 4 really good teams and 6 OK-to-mediocre teams.  And there will be no score keeping or standings.  But everyone will get orange slices at halftime.

Tell me why everyone was ready to bury LH when DA was announced but LH comes up with a way to sucker back in the ECNL clubs, to pay LH more money and all of a sudden everybody jumps right on it and can't wait to give LH their hard-earned money again?
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Post by SocDad on 25/05/16, 09:36 am

TatonkaBurger wrote:So PDL will have 4 really good teams and 6 OK-to-mediocre teams.  And there will be no score keeping or standings.  But everyone will get orange slices at halftime.

With how competitive soccer around here........someone will come out with an FBR for this league!!!! Laughing
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Post by thunderlipz on 25/05/16, 10:44 am

By October everyone will forget PDL exist. D1 will be the league as it has been for decades.

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Post by fakeituntilyoumakeit on 25/05/16, 12:09 pm

So does this mean since the new league caters to the Jr ECNL events in Tulsa, Austin and Houston that these teams are most likely going to play all their tournaments at Jr ECNL venues as well? If so then there won't be any opportunity for outside teams to even play these teams at all??

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Post by Guest on 25/05/16, 12:18 pm

this maybe having an effect on the landscape because i heard the LP Elite gang was pretty deep in Frisco last night

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Post by thunderlipz on 25/05/16, 12:29 pm

From my understanding most of the PDL teams will also play D1 as well. I think Sting and Solar are the only two clubs that will have separate teams for D1 and PDL. Jr ECNL is a whole different ball game, that is where the big 5 will field their potential ECNL teams for u14. I would expect those Jr ECNL teams to have both D1 players and PDL players mixed. I'm also hearing there will be a lot of Dual rostering going on between PDL and D1 teams. This should be very interesting to say the least.

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Post by FCT2016 on 25/05/16, 12:37 pm

WhySeauxSerious wrote:this maybe having an effect on the landscape because i heard the LP Elite gang was pretty deep in Frisco last night

Dude half of your roster has been at ECNL tryouts this week.

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Post by Guest on 25/05/16, 12:45 pm

thunderlipz wrote: I'm also hearing there will be a lot of Dual rostering going on between PDL and D1 teams. This should be very interesting to say the least.

Not surprised at all by this, as I would it expect U11-U13 to look much like U14 has the past couple of years.  At U14 there is a lot of dual rostering that happens as clubs form their ECNL teams while doing what they need to do to hold on to their D1 byes in LH.  At U11-U13 it will be a combination of holding on to byes in LH, coupled with PDL not providing any path to a regional or national championship format similar to what USYSA provides with State Cup->Regionals->Nationals.

Most clubs/coaches/parents will not want to pass on the opportunity to gain State Cup glory and beyond.  If there are any clubs/coaches that don't care about the USYSA route, they will likely still be forced to care by the parents who will take their stud DD's elsewhere if that opportunity isn't provided to them.

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Post by Can_I_Kick_It? on 25/05/16, 12:51 pm

Since they're not keeping score I guess I cant say its all about winning in 2016/17 but I can say with all the hype they about to win those $$$! Pay me!

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Post by Can_I_Kick_It? on 25/05/16, 12:54 pm

How many will be on each the PDL rosters?

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Post by Guest on 25/05/16, 01:53 pm

FCT2016 wrote:
WhySeauxSerious wrote:this maybe having an effect on the landscape because i heard the LP Elite gang was pretty deep in Frisco last night

Dude half of your roster has been at ECNL tryouts this week.

Who is my roster? Im not a coach.

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Post by Big Ern on 25/05/16, 02:14 pm

thunderlipz wrote:By October everyone will forget PDL exist. D1 will be the league as it has been for decades.

lipz ... While we all can see you're in major denial here, I'll go ahead and repost to remind you of what's actually happening (no speculation) ...

Top talent and coaches are naturally being drawn to ECNL clubs and this will continue to be the case. ECNL clubs have/will be forming "2nd" teams identified as "composite". Additionally, ECNL is now starting at younger ages (as young as U8) and you'll see these groups begin to form in NTX soon. This year, the ECNL and ECNL composite will make up the first and second tier. As I'm sure you've heard, next year with the introduction of USSF DA, there will be 3 top tiers of young ladies competing outside of LH for AP 04 age group and up, and potentially as young as AP 07.

So to spell it out once again ... This season, the top 2 teams (which now will include many of the stronger players from the non ECNL club teams) for each of the 5 DFW ECNL clubs will not be playing in LH D1/D2. And next year (16/17) two of those ECNL clubs will have their 4th team competing in LH D1. It is undeniable that LH D1/D2 will not be the same going forward --

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Post by thunderlipz on 25/05/16, 02:26 pm

BigErn wrote:
thunderlipz wrote:By October everyone will forget PDL exist. D1 will be the league as it has been for decades.

lipz ... While we all can see you're in major denial here, I'll go ahead and repost to remind you of what's actually happening (no speculation) ...  

Top talent and coaches are naturally being drawn to ECNL clubs and this will continue to be the case. ECNL clubs have/will be forming "2nd" teams identified as "composite". Additionally, ECNL is now starting at younger ages (as young as U8) and you'll see these groups begin to form in NTX soon. This year, the ECNL and ECNL composite will make up the first and second tier. As I'm sure you've heard, next year with the introduction of USSF DA, there will be 3 top tiers of young ladies competing outside of LH for AP 04 age group and up, and potentially as young as AP 07.

So to spell it out once again ...  This season, the top 2 teams (which now will include many of the stronger players from the non ECNL club teams) for each of the 5 DFW ECNL clubs will not be playing in LH D1/D2.  And next year (16/17) two of those ECNL clubs will have their 4th team competing in LH D1.  It is undeniable that LH D1/D2 will not be the same going forward --
I have no idea what your motives are??

However once again PDL has ZERO to do with ECNL, or Composite and that's fact. Like it or not!!! I vote for Big E to start the PDL FBR right now, come on you know you wanna!!!

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Post by Big Ern on 25/05/16, 02:39 pm

Motive? I have the knowledge so am simply providing you with guidance. Nothing for me to like or not.

Yet you continue post with confusion and without having read what I wrote (i.e. I've mentioned three times in this thread that this league is not affiliated with ECNL).

What is FBR?

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