North Texas 95 College Commitments

TCU 5
Tech 4
SMU 3
Baylor 3
OSU 3
OK 2
UTEP 2
Auburn 2
Texas 1
Kansas 1
UNT 1
Villanova 1
U Memphis 1
Notre Dame 1
U of S Car 1
Illinois 1

Total 32



Sting 10
Texans 9
Feet 10
Solar 3

Total 32



Any others for 95s?

TCU 5
Tech 4
SMU 3
Baylor 3
OSU 3
UTEP 3
OK 2
Auburn 2
Texas 1
Kansas 1
UNT 1
Villanova 1
U Memphis 1
Notre Dame 1
U of S Car 1
Illinois 1

Total 33



Sting 10
Texans 10
Feet 10
Solar 3

Total 33



Any others for 95s?

TCU 5 ...........(3 Feet / 1 Sting / 1 Texan)
Tech 4 ...........(3 Sting / 1 Feet)
SMU 3 ..........(3 Texans)
Baylor 3 ........(2 Feet / 1 Texan)
OSU 3 ..........(2 Sting / 1 Texan)
UTEP 3 .........(3 Feet)
OK 2 ............(1 Texan / 1 Sting)
Auburn 2 .......(2 Solar)
Texas 1 .........(1 Texan)
Tex A&M 1 .....(1 Sting)
Kansas 1 .......(1 Sting)
UNT 1 ..........(1 Feet)
Villanova 1 ....(1 Sting)
U Memphis 1 .....(1 Texan)
Notre Dame 1 .....(1 Sting)
U of S Car 1 .....(1 Texan)
Illinois 1 .........(1 Solar)

Total 34



Sting U17 ECNL ... 11 ...(3 of 5 Seniors Committed)
Texans U17 ECNL ... 10 ...(1 of 1 Seniors Committed)
Feet U17 ECNL ... 10
Solar U17 ECNL ... 3

Total 34



Any other commitments for 95s?

TCU 5 ...........(3 Feet / 1 Sting / 1 Texan)
Tech 4 ...........(3 Sting / 1 Feet)
SMU 3 ..........(3 Texans)
Baylor 3 ........(2 Feet / 1 Texan)
OSU 3 ..........(2 Sting / 1 Texan)
UTEP 3 .........(3 Feet)
OK 2 ............(1 Texan / 1 Sting)
Auburn 2 .......(2 Solar)
Texas 1 .........(1 Texan)
Tex A&M 1 .....(1 Sting)
Kansas 1 .......(1 Sting)
Missouri ....... (1 Sting)
UNT 1 ..........(1 Feet)
Villanova 1 ....(1 Sting)
U Memphis 1 .....(1 Texan)
Notre Dame 1 .....(1 Sting)
U of S Car 1 .....(1 Texan)
Illinois 1 .........(1 Solar)

Total 35



Sting U17 ECNL ... 12 ...(3 of 5 Seniors Committed)
Texans U17 ECNL ... 10 ...(1 of 1 Seniors Committed)
Feet U17 ECNL ... 10
Solar U17 ECNL ... 3

Total 35



Any other commitments for 95s?

I ask this respectively to the situation you posted. I look forward to the trickle down.....

My question since it is on the early side, is it an offer based on a certain SAT-ACT score or certain class placement or without injury?

So I am asking what is the downside if any of early commits or later commits?

Thanks for the heads up, so we all know what we may be faced with when they get to us?

Not an expert ... Yuk probably knows more, But ...

These commitments obviously are not predicated on SAT/ACT scores or class rank ... in other words the coach is relatively sure that the kid will be able to get adequate grades or the coach would not have offered.

For Ivys and some higher academic (but perhaps not as "soccer serious" schools), the school would need to wait for scores.

I would think the spots on the top D1 soccer rosters will be mostly committed before scores are completed.

Downside: The top D1 schools ... and certainly the top D1 programs in Texas, Ok and Ark will probably be committed before ACT/SAT is available.

Upside: If you are looking Ivyish ... you are not late ... although even some of those have their ideas set.

Kenshi is correct; the coaches usually ask about grades before they offer, so they have a pretty good idea whether the recruits will get in or not. Depends on the school-Ivies are just now getting started in earnest, and their process is very different.

I sense that SAT/ACT requirements are fairly lenient if grades are there and they want a player-again, every school is different (but there are some surprises-for instance, Rice is very athlete friendly on admissions).

Interesting that even with ECLN giving the girls 'national exposure' they end up going to schools that used to scout them in LH and state cup. This list is incredibly similiar to pre-ecln years, maybe even leaner.

That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

Kenshi Dave wrote:That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

One of the things I've learned in the process is that recruiting is largely regional. Unless you are a national team player, chances are you're going to go to school in your region, because those are the schools that have seen you play the most. There are, of course, exceptions.

The big D1 schools simply are not scouting non-ECNL events. No reason to. The chances of finding that "diamond in the rough" at a non ECNL event is too small to justify the cost of attending; what they'd really be doing is filling out the bottom end of their roster, and they can do that without traveling.

Important point ... "committed" tends to equate to Athletic Scholarship money gone ... I think they only have 13 full available per team, right?

These early commits are getting the money ...

"Academic" money is still out there, if you have enough girl for it.

Smaller (and even more local?) schools like Hardin Sim, UTD, Trinity, Austin Col, SFA, ACC, Dallas Bap, Houston Bap, etc are probably not very far along in the process for 95s.

Large D1/SEC coach told DD in August he is just beginning to look at the 2014 prospects. He was contacted by her, and she invited him to watch her play in Houston. She had no response from him until he showed up to her first game in Houston. She was invited to come to campus, which she did this past August. Visit went well.
Based on her counselor's recommendation to look at small east coach private schools, dd has made several coaching contacts and is talking to some of these coaches. She has been invited up to mid-week, one day meet and greets/try outs at a few schools. Wonderful if you can afford to fly up to Boston or New York area for a quick day trip. She has gone to some of the D3 day visits closer to home. All of the D3 coaches have said grades/test scores first, soccer second. If the grades and test scores are there, they can find an academic scholarship for a soccer player. 2 D3 coaches from great schools have told her she is welcomed on their 2014 teams pending grades/test scores.

When you say 2014 prospects, generally you mean 96s that are now Sophomores ... our point of reference in this conversation has been 95s graduating in 2013 that are now Juniors.



So, your timeline for the 2014 96s would be following the 2013 95s timeline that we were talking about in this thread ... right?

the regional issue is something ive talked about. while players are flying all over the country to 'get exposure' in the end they really only needed exposure to colleges within the area (tx,ok,ar,etc..), not new york. Another issue is that half a scholarship to lsu, ark, ok, tech, goes a lot further than half to a place like Duke or Marquette (plus its cold). so practical issues become more important. based on that list only 2 players chose to spend their winterw knee deep in snow, illinois and villanova. (maybe kansas?)

1996s vs 1992s

TCU 5 ...........5
Tech 4 ..........5
SMU 3 .......... 4
Baylor 3 ........4
OSU 3 .......... 1
UTEP 3 ......... 1
OK 2 ............5
Auburn 2 ....... 0
Texas 1 .........1
Tex A&M 1 ..... 0
Kansas 1 ....... 0
Missouri 1...... 3
UNT 1 .......... 5
Villanova 1 .... 0
U Memphis 1 .....0
Notre Dame 1 .....0
U of S Car 1 .....0
Illinois 1 ........0
U of Miami 0 .....1
Duke 0 ...........1

My daughter is finally committed, thank God. That was a grueling ordeal. UNC Greensboro.

Beautiful part of the country.

congrats zlata, good luck

stillyuk wrote:

Kenshi Dave wrote:That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

One of the things I've learned in the process is that recruiting is largely regional. Unless you are a national team player, chances are you're going to go to school in your region, because those are the schools that have seen you play the most. There are, of course, exceptions.

The big D1 schools simply are not scouting non-ECNL events. No reason to. The chances of finding that "diamond in the rough" at a non ECNL event is too small to justify the cost of attending; what they'd really be doing is filling out the bottom end of their roster, and they can do that without traveling.

That sounds generally to be true but in a sense ECNL has muddied the waters a bit. Since it is a club invitation and not individual teams there may be some teams at an ECNL tournament that might otherwise be weaker than some non-ECNL teams. Especially from areas that are not as strong as North Texas. North Texas non-ECNL might have stronger players and teams than some area's ECNL players and teams. How is a college coach to know this if they never play each other ?

Even in our own age group in North Texas things seem a bit odd. Below is the current top 7 in North Texas as far as gotsoccer ranking:

1. Sting ECNL---ECNL
2. Texans Red---ECNL
3. Feet---ECNL
4. Solar---ECNL
5. North Texas Strikers---D2
6. Sting---D1
7. FCD---ECNL

justfurkicks wrote:

stillyuk wrote:

Kenshi Dave wrote:That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

One of the things I've learned in the process is that recruiting is largely regional. Unless you are a national team player, chances are you're going to go to school in your region, because those are the schools that have seen you play the most. There are, of course, exceptions.

The big D1 schools simply are not scouting non-ECNL events. No reason to. The chances of finding that "diamond in the rough" at a non ECNL event is too small to justify the cost of attending; what they'd really be doing is filling out the bottom end of their roster, and they can do that without traveling.

That sounds generally to be true but in a sense ECNL has muddied the waters a bit. Since it is a club invitation and not individual teams there may be some teams at an ECNL tournament that might otherwise be weaker than some non-ECNL teams. Especially from areas that are not as strong as North Texas. North Texas non-ECNL might have stronger players and teams than some area's ECNL players and teams. How is a college coach to know this if they never play each other ?

Even in our own age group in North Texas things seem a bit odd. Below is the current top 7 in North Texas as far as gotsoccer ranking:

1. Sting ECNL---ECNL
2. Texans Red---ECNL
3. Feet---ECNL
4. Solar---ECNL
5. North Texas Strikers---D2
6. Sting---D1
7. FCD---ECNL

#7 is FCD Premier. FCD ECNL is not registered with Gotsoccer.

Arch Stanton wrote:

justfurkicks wrote:

stillyuk wrote:

Kenshi Dave wrote:That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

One of the things I've learned in the process is that recruiting is largely regional. Unless you are a national team player, chances are you're going to go to school in your region, because those are the schools that have seen you play the most. There are, of course, exceptions.

The big D1 schools simply are not scouting non-ECNL events. No reason to. The chances of finding that "diamond in the rough" at a non ECNL event is too small to justify the cost of attending; what they'd really be doing is filling out the bottom end of their roster, and they can do that without traveling.

That sounds generally to be true but in a sense ECNL has muddied the waters a bit. Since it is a club invitation and not individual teams there may be some teams at an ECNL tournament that might otherwise be weaker than some non-ECNL teams. Especially from areas that are not as strong as North Texas. North Texas non-ECNL might have stronger players and teams than some area's ECNL players and teams. How is a college coach to know this if they never play each other ?

Even in our own age group in North Texas things seem a bit odd. Below is the current top 7 in North Texas as far as gotsoccer ranking:

1. Sting ECNL---ECNL
2. Texans Red---ECNL
3. Feet---ECNL
4. Solar---ECNL
5. North Texas Strikers---D2
6. Sting---D1
7. FCD---ECNL

#7 is FCD Premier. FCD ECNL is not registered with Gotsoccer.

I stand corrected. Our area seems to make sense then.

Still, when a college coach goes to an ECNL tournament and avoids the non-ECNL games do they not run the risk of missing some very good players from strong soccer areas while watching possibly lesser players from weaker areas ?

justfurkicks wrote:

Arch Stanton wrote:

justfurkicks wrote:

stillyuk wrote:

Kenshi Dave wrote:That is a great point.

Ultimately ... surprisingly ... the majority of girls want to stay closer to home.

One of the things I've learned in the process is that recruiting is largely regional. Unless you are a national team player, chances are you're going to go to school in your region, because those are the schools that have seen you play the most. There are, of course, exceptions.

The big D1 schools simply are not scouting non-ECNL events. No reason to. The chances of finding that "diamond in the rough" at a non ECNL event is too small to justify the cost of attending; what they'd really be doing is filling out the bottom end of their roster, and they can do that without traveling.

That sounds generally to be true but in a sense ECNL has muddied the waters a bit. Since it is a club invitation and not individual teams there may be some teams at an ECNL tournament that might otherwise be weaker than some non-ECNL teams. Especially from areas that are not as strong as North Texas. North Texas non-ECNL might have stronger players and teams than some area's ECNL players and teams. How is a college coach to know this if they never play each other ?

Even in our own age group in North Texas things seem a bit odd. Below is the current top 7 in North Texas as far as gotsoccer ranking:

1. Sting ECNL---ECNL
2. Texans Red---ECNL
3. Feet---ECNL
4. Solar---ECNL
5. North Texas Strikers---D2
6. Sting---D1
7. FCD---ECNL

#7 is FCD Premier. FCD ECNL is not registered with Gotsoccer.

I stand corrected. Our area seems to make sense then.

Still, when a college coach goes to an ECNL tournament and avoids the non-ECNL games do they not run the risk of missing some very good players from strong soccer areas while watching possibly lesser players from weaker areas ?

I think alot of times they go to both (ECNL/non-ECNL) and recruit from their own camps. ECNL just makes it easier for them (greater consolidation of talent) although yes there are some very good players outside ECNL.

Arch Stanton wrote: I think alot of times they go to both (ECNL/non-ECNL) and recruit from their own camps. ECNL just makes it easier for them (greater consolidation of talent) although yes there are some very good players outside ECNL.

ECNL and Non-ECNL events used to take place at the same time. Final Four, Disney, etc. Now, the ECNL events stand alone in most cases. I really doubt the coaches can justify the expense of going to both events.

It all depends upon the level of school doing the looking, too. A big D-1 program? No, they're not missing anything by skipping the non-ECNL events, because it's needle in a haystack time as far as finding someone they're going to use scholarship $$ on. Smaller schools and lower divisions will be more likely.

Hey, doesn't this thread belong in the ECNL section?

Ya'll are a fading and distant memory. Sting, Texans
and Feet, who? No local bragging rights left: just the
grind of playing out of state games for girls who have
already been recruited by top tier programs...

We'll miss playing you and I'll send a kind thought your
way while lounging by my pool sipping a cold one or two.

It's been a fun ride.

MauMau