Powerade Fab 50 Rankings

Pitchmon wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Longing4agame wrote:

1st 2theball wrote:

u95g dad wrote:I expected Boyd to get the #1 ranking with SLC and Marcus losing. I would think they would be #1 in the National Ranking as well since #3 lost. There is a good chance they will stay there until playoffs and maybe the rest of the year if they run the table.

I was surprised to see Plano West #2. I understand they beat Marcus but they also lost to Fossil Ridge (not that long ago) and tied two other teams. I would think SLC and Marcus would both be ahead of West since each only have one loss and both were to strong teams.

And where is Ridge in the rankings? I know they have some quality wins against PW and Coppell and played SLC tough. They must have some bad losses as well.

Thankfully, it will all be determined on the pitch but it is fun to talk about anyway.

Not sure about any bad losses for the Ridge...I know there were some losses early during pre-season tourneys where bench was emptied and coach was tinkering with line-ups and such...I believe there was one game where an outside mid ended up playing keeper..

Rankings this early are fun to talk about, but I agree that they will hold more value after everyone has gone thru the district @ least once.

I would agree about no bad losses for Ridge. They've been competitive in every game. I find it hard to believe they are not in these rankings either. I guess thats what you get when you're in a district with SLC, Coppell and Keller. That's reminiscent of the murderers row lineup for the '27 Yankees. Ridge has beat Coppell, lost to SLC, and has Keller next Tuesday. They are fun to watch for sure.

Not that they are BAD losses by any means, but I'm confident the reason that Fossil Ridge isn't on his rankings is because of their losses to Allen and Hebron. Allen and Hebron have had other losses/ties that have dropped them out of his rankings as well. So, despite Ridge's wins against Coppell and Plano West, the combination of all factors/competition has likely left Fossil Ridge just outside the Texas Top 20 in his mind. Just my two cents...

My take on these standings is obviously it starts on previous year and I think they put a lot of weight on what was the old Nolan Showcase. So bad or not noticeable previous year, don't play in the showcase and you get what you get. Doesn't make it right, Ridge has a fine team but from 10,000 feet they may not be seen.........yet.

Yes, you're take is exactly right. Previous year results seem to influence the rankings heavily (until proven to be inaccurate through current year play). The fact that the old Nolan Showcase pits "ranked" teams from Texas, Florida & California and as such is the only real chance to evaluate cross-state competition would explain the weighting given to that event. I'm sure the fact that the individual doing the ranking personally attended all of the games played at TCU also plays into the weighting given to results from that tournament (for the better or worse). As you suggest, everything else in the rankings is then a result of making comparisons to those data points until proven otherwise on the field. Not a bad system, but it's not perfect either. I've yet to find one that is...

I've always thought that someone taking the time to publicly acknowledge and evaluate girls' soccer on a national platform (as well as those that play it) is a very good thing. So kudos to him/them for their involvement. At this point it's fun to have any kind of ranking as a reference point to help frame our "discussions" and biases.

Ferris wrote:

Pitchmon wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Longing4agame wrote:

1st 2theball wrote:

u95g dad wrote:I expected Boyd to get the #1 ranking with SLC and Marcus losing. I would think they would be #1 in the National Ranking as well since #3 lost. There is a good chance they will stay there until playoffs and maybe the rest of the year if they run the table.

I was surprised to see Plano West #2. I understand they beat Marcus but they also lost to Fossil Ridge (not that long ago) and tied two other teams. I would think SLC and Marcus would both be ahead of West since each only have one loss and both were to strong teams.

And where is Ridge in the rankings? I know they have some quality wins against PW and Coppell and played SLC tough. They must have some bad losses as well.

Thankfully, it will all be determined on the pitch but it is fun to talk about anyway.

Not sure about any bad losses for the Ridge...I know there were some losses early during pre-season tourneys where bench was emptied and coach was tinkering with line-ups and such...I believe there was one game where an outside mid ended up playing keeper..

Rankings this early are fun to talk about, but I agree that they will hold more value after everyone has gone thru the district @ least once.

I would agree about no bad losses for Ridge. They've been competitive in every game. I find it hard to believe they are not in these rankings either. I guess thats what you get when you're in a district with SLC, Coppell and Keller. That's reminiscent of the murderers row lineup for the '27 Yankees. Ridge has beat Coppell, lost to SLC, and has Keller next Tuesday. They are fun to watch for sure.

Not that they are BAD losses by any means, but I'm confident the reason that Fossil Ridge isn't on his rankings is because of their losses to Allen and Hebron. Allen and Hebron have had other losses/ties that have dropped them out of his rankings as well. So, despite Ridge's wins against Coppell and Plano West, the combination of all factors/competition has likely left Fossil Ridge just outside the Texas Top 20 in his mind. Just my two cents...

My take on these standings is obviously it starts on previous year and I think they put a lot of weight on what was the old Nolan Showcase. So bad or not noticeable previous year, don't play in the showcase and you get what you get. Doesn't make it right, Ridge has a fine team but from 10,000 feet they may not be seen.........yet.

Yes, you're take is exactly right. Previous year results seem to influence the rankings heavily (until proven to be inaccurate through current year play). The fact that the old Nolan Showcase pits "ranked" teams from Texas, Florida & California and as such is the only real chance to evaluate cross-state competition would explain the weighting given to that event. I'm sure the fact that the individual doing the ranking personally attended all of the games played at TCU also plays into the weighting given to results from that tournament (for the better or worse). As you suggest, everything else in the rankings is then a result of making comparisons to those data points until proven otherwise on the field. Not a bad system, but it's not perfect either. I've yet to find one that is...

I've always thought that someone taking the time to publicly acknowledge and evaluate girls' soccer on a national platform (as well as those that play it) is a very good thing. So kudos to him/them for their involvement. At this point it's fun to have any kind of ranking as a reference point to help frame our "discussions" and biases.

I've got no bias. I think my rankings are better

Loco ... Do you live in Flower Mound or Lewisville High School area?

I'm surprised Plano United isn't in the top ten.

Kenshi Dave wrote:Loco ... Do you live in Flower Mound or Lewisville High School area?

I'm surprised Plano United isn't in the top ten.

I do live in the Flower Mound / Lewisville area. But my daughter no longer plays soccer... Ok, maybe I'm still a LITTLE biased... but I still like my rankings better... :-)

Sorry ... I didn't mean PLANO United ... I meant North Texas United.

Kenshi Dave wrote:Sorry ... I didn't mean PLANO United ... I meant North Texas United.

I figured that. I have a good idea when my leg is being pulled...

locomotion wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Pitchmon wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Longing4agame wrote:

1st 2theball wrote:

u95g dad wrote:I expected Boyd to get the #1 ranking with SLC and Marcus losing. I would think they would be #1 in the National Ranking as well since #3 lost. There is a good chance they will stay there until playoffs and maybe the rest of the year if they run the table.

I was surprised to see Plano West #2. I understand they beat Marcus but they also lost to Fossil Ridge (not that long ago) and tied two other teams. I would think SLC and Marcus would both be ahead of West since each only have one loss and both were to strong teams.

And where is Ridge in the rankings? I know they have some quality wins against PW and Coppell and played SLC tough. They must have some bad losses as well.

Thankfully, it will all be determined on the pitch but it is fun to talk about anyway.

Not sure about any bad losses for the Ridge...I know there were some losses early during pre-season tourneys where bench was emptied and coach was tinkering with line-ups and such...I believe there was one game where an outside mid ended up playing keeper..

Rankings this early are fun to talk about, but I agree that they will hold more value after everyone has gone thru the district @ least once.

I would agree about no bad losses for Ridge. They've been competitive in every game. I find it hard to believe they are not in these rankings either. I guess thats what you get when you're in a district with SLC, Coppell and Keller. That's reminiscent of the murderers row lineup for the '27 Yankees. Ridge has beat Coppell, lost to SLC, and has Keller next Tuesday. They are fun to watch for sure.

Not that they are BAD losses by any means, but I'm confident the reason that Fossil Ridge isn't on his rankings is because of their losses to Allen and Hebron. Allen and Hebron have had other losses/ties that have dropped them out of his rankings as well. So, despite Ridge's wins against Coppell and Plano West, the combination of all factors/competition has likely left Fossil Ridge just outside the Texas Top 20 in his mind. Just my two cents...

My take on these standings is obviously it starts on previous year and I think they put a lot of weight on what was the old Nolan Showcase. So bad or not noticeable previous year, don't play in the showcase and you get what you get. Doesn't make it right, Ridge has a fine team but from 10,000 feet they may not be seen.........yet.

Yes, you're take is exactly right. Previous year results seem to influence the rankings heavily (until proven to be inaccurate through current year play). The fact that the old Nolan Showcase pits "ranked" teams from Texas, Florida & California and as such is the only real chance to evaluate cross-state competition would explain the weighting given to that event. I'm sure the fact that the individual doing the ranking personally attended all of the games played at TCU also plays into the weighting given to results from that tournament (for the better or worse). As you suggest, everything else in the rankings is then a result of making comparisons to those data points until proven otherwise on the field. Not a bad system, but it's not perfect either. I've yet to find one that is...

I've always thought that someone taking the time to publicly acknowledge and evaluate girls' soccer on a national platform (as well as those that play it) is a very good thing. So kudos to him/them for their involvement. At this point it's fun to have any kind of ranking as a reference point to help frame our "discussions" and biases.

I've got no bias. I think my rankings are better

I like the LOCO rankings he has at least heard of Keller who so far is doing o.k. and in the mix for playoffs> The seconfd half of 7-5A will be intersting!

New State Rankings posted today on ESPNHS...no real change from last week. I'm still not sure why Mansfield and Coppell don't ever drop, despite both registering a tie last week...Westlake continues to get credit for only losing to Marcus, Southlake and Klein Oak (certainly no shame in those losses...however, ties against The Colony, Arlington, Waco Midway and S.A. Reagan don't seem to hurt them either). Klein Oak, Kingwood and Cy-Fair all seem to be strong contenders from Houston area. Any other thoughts on the ranking?

Texas: 1. McKinney Boyd (11-0-2), 2. Plano West (10-1-2), 3. Marcus (15-1-0), 4. Southlake Carroll (17-1-0), 5. Mansfield (10-1-3), 6. Coppell (12-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (12-0-1), 9. Kingwood (13-2-1), 10. Grapevine (12-2-2), 11. Westlake (8-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (10-1-1), 13. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 14. Flower Mound (11-2-0), 15. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 16. Wakeland (12-0-2), 17. Seven Lakes (12-3-0), 18. Fort Bend Austin (9-0-3), 19. Keller (9-2-3), 20. Denton Ryan (12-1-0).

ALSO...Congrats to Ursuline on their TAPPS championship!

Should be a big shake up in the Top 10 with Boyd losing and another Plano West tie last night.

Rowlett? They lost to Rowlett? What's the story? Any player meltdowns for Boyd (wouldn't be the first time)?

stillyuk wrote:Rowlett? They lost to Rowlett? What's the story? Any player meltdowns for Boyd (wouldn't be the first time)?

No meltdowns, just got beat, we didn't finish our chances in the first half, and got beat to every ball the in second half.

TX Cole wrote:

stillyuk wrote:Rowlett? They lost to Rowlett? What's the story? Any player meltdowns for Boyd (wouldn't be the first time)?

No meltdowns, just got beat, we didn't finish our chances in the first half, and got beat to every ball the in second half.

Congrats on a long run of being undefeated! The loss may actually help the team because they won't have the pressure of the streak on their shoulders. Also, getting a few competitive district games will help them get better for the playoffs. The rematch should be a fun one to watch.

TX Cole wrote:

stillyuk wrote:Rowlett? They lost to Rowlett? What's the story? Any player meltdowns for Boyd (wouldn't be the first time)?

No meltdowns, just got beat, we didn't finish our chances in the first half, and got beat to every ball the in second half.

It happens in this sport! How they respond is the key.

Longing4agame wrote:

1st 2theball wrote:

u95g dad wrote:I expected Boyd to get the #1 ranking with SLC and Marcus losing. I would think they would be #1 in the National Ranking as well since #3 lost. There is a good chance they will stay there until playoffs and maybe the rest of the year if they run the table.

I was surprised to see Plano West #2. I understand they beat Marcus but they also lost to Fossil Ridge (not that long ago) and tied two other teams. I would think SLC and Marcus would both be ahead of West since each only have one loss and both were to strong teams.

And where is Ridge in the rankings? I know they have some quality wins against PW and Coppell and played SLC tough. They must have some bad losses as well.

Thankfully, it will all be determined on the pitch but it is fun to talk about anyway.

Not sure about any bad losses for the Ridge...I know there were some losses early during pre-season tourneys where bench was emptied and coach was tinkering with line-ups and such...I believe there was one game where an outside mid ended up playing keeper..

Rankings this early are fun to talk about, but I agree that they will hold more value after everyone has gone thru the district @ least once.

I would agree about no bad losses for Ridge. They've been competitive in every game. I find it hard to believe they are not in these rankings either. I guess thats what you get when you're in a district with SLC, Coppell and Keller. That's reminiscent of the murderers row lineup for the '27 Yankees. Ridge has beat Coppell, lost to SLC, and has Keller next Tuesday. They are fun to watch for sure.

Ridge vs Keller game was a battle until the final whistle. Lots of great talent on both sides of the ball. Ridge came out on top 1-0. Now looking forward to our rematch vs. Southlake. GO RIDGE!!

BOO RIDGE!

Uncle Numanga wrote:BOO RIDGE!

BOO you.

Longing4agame wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:BOO RIDGE!

BOO you.

Boo you too.

Uncle Numanga wrote:

Longing4agame wrote:

Uncle Numanga wrote:BOO RIDGE!

BOO you.

Boo you too.

Boo Who?

I do not boo you

blondefish wrote:

Longing4agame wrote:

1st 2theball wrote:

u95g dad wrote:I expected Boyd to get the #1 ranking with SLC and Marcus losing. I would think they would be #1 in the National Ranking as well since #3 lost. There is a good chance they will stay there until playoffs and maybe the rest of the year if they run the table.

I was surprised to see Plano West #2. I understand they beat Marcus but they also lost to Fossil Ridge (not that long ago) and tied two other teams. I would think SLC and Marcus would both be ahead of West since each only have one loss and both were to strong teams.

And where is Ridge in the rankings? I know they have some quality wins against PW and Coppell and played SLC tough. They must have some bad losses as well.

Thankfully, it will all be determined on the pitch but it is fun to talk about anyway.

A scrum after a late corner decided it, good game evenly matched


Not sure about any bad losses for the Ridge...I know there were some losses early during pre-season tourneys where bench was emptied and coach was tinkering with line-ups and such...I believe there was one game where an outside mid ended up playing keeper..

Rankings this early are fun to talk about, but I agree that they will hold more value after everyone has gone thru the district @ least once.

I would agree about no bad losses for Ridge. They've been competitive in every game. I find it hard to believe they are not in these rankings either. I guess thats what you get when you're in a district with SLC, Coppell and Keller. That's reminiscent of the murderers row lineup for the '27 Yankees. Ridge has beat Coppell, lost to SLC, and has Keller next Tuesday. They are fun to watch for sure.

Ridge vs Keller game was a battle until the final whistle. Lots of great talent on both sides of the ball. Ridge came out on top 1-0. Now looking forward to our rematch vs. Southlake. GO RIDGE!!

Boo Ridge..LOL...a scrum after a corner decided it, evenly matched game, refs well lets not go there. LOL

Texas: 1. Southlake Carroll (18-1-0), 2. Plano West (11-1-3), 3. McKinney Boyd (12-1-2), 4. Marcus (16-2-0), 5. Mansfield (12-1-3), 6. Coppell (13-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (14-0-1), 9. Kingwood (15-2-1), 10. Grapevine (14-2-2), 11. Westlake (10-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (11-1-2), 13. Rowlett (10-1-3), 14. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 15. Flower Mound (12-2-1), 16. Wakeland (14-0-2), 17. Fort Bend Austin (12-0-3), 18. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 19. Denton Ryan (14-1-0), 20. Fossil Ridge (7-3-1).

Frogfan1 wrote:Texas: 1. Southlake Carroll (18-1-0), 2. Plano West (11-1-3), 3. McKinney Boyd (12-1-2), 4. Marcus (16-2-0), 5. Mansfield (12-1-3), 6. Coppell (13-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (14-0-1), 9. Kingwood (15-2-1), 10. Grapevine (14-2-2), 11. Westlake (10-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (11-1-2), 13. Rowlett (10-1-3), 14. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 15. Flower Mound (12-2-1), 16. Wakeland (14-0-2), 17. Fort Bend Austin (12-0-3), 18. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 19. Denton Ryan (14-1-0), 20. Fossil Ridge (7-3-1).

Some interesting changes, although not unexpected...top 4 are shuffled after losses by Boyd and Marcus. Boyd drops 2 spots, Marcus 1. Southlake jumps two spots with a win on Tuesday and Plano West stands pat after a win and a tie. Rowlett gets credit for a good record and vaults into top 20 at #13 after beating Boyd, while Flower Mound drops a spot to #15 after tying Plano West (go figure). Keller drops out after losing to Fossil Ridge who enters at #20. Katy Seven Lakes is the other team to drop out after a loss and a tie. It would appear only head-to-head wins/losses will create much movement among the top 20. I would expect most of this group to stay largely unchanged until playoffs shakes things out. Others thoughts?

Ferris wrote:

Frogfan1 wrote:Texas: 1. Southlake Carroll (18-1-0), 2. Plano West (11-1-3), 3. McKinney Boyd (12-1-2), 4. Marcus (16-2-0), 5. Mansfield (12-1-3), 6. Coppell (13-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (14-0-1), 9. Kingwood (15-2-1), 10. Grapevine (14-2-2), 11. Westlake (10-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (11-1-2), 13. Rowlett (10-1-3), 14. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 15. Flower Mound (12-2-1), 16. Wakeland (14-0-2), 17. Fort Bend Austin (12-0-3), 18. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 19. Denton Ryan (14-1-0), 20. Fossil Ridge (7-3-1).

Some interesting changes, although not unexpected...top 4 are shuffled after losses by Boyd and Marcus. Boyd drops 2 spots, Marcus 1. Southlake jumps two spots with a win on Tuesday and Plano West stands pat after a win and a tie. Rowlett gets credit for a good record and vaults into top 20 at #13 after beating Boyd, while Flower Mound drops a spot to #15 after tying Plano West (go figure). Keller drops out after losing to Fossil Ridge who enters at #20. Katy Seven Lakes is the other team to drop out after a loss and a tie. It would appear only head-to-head wins/losses will create much movement among the top 20. I would expect most of this group to stay largely unchanged until playoffs shakes things out. Others thoughts?

Which rankings do you guys think are the most accurate? The ESPN one above or Loco's http://www.sportsmobility.net/ ?

Frogfan1 wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Frogfan1 wrote:Texas: 1. Southlake Carroll (18-1-0), 2. Plano West (11-1-3), 3. McKinney Boyd (12-1-2), 4. Marcus (16-2-0), 5. Mansfield (12-1-3), 6. Coppell (13-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (14-0-1), 9. Kingwood (15-2-1), 10. Grapevine (14-2-2), 11. Westlake (10-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (11-1-2), 13. Rowlett (10-1-3), 14. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 15. Flower Mound (12-2-1), 16. Wakeland (14-0-2), 17. Fort Bend Austin (12-0-3), 18. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 19. Denton Ryan (14-1-0), 20. Fossil Ridge (7-3-1).

Some interesting changes, although not unexpected...top 4 are shuffled after losses by Boyd and Marcus. Boyd drops 2 spots, Marcus 1. Southlake jumps two spots with a win on Tuesday and Plano West stands pat after a win and a tie. Rowlett gets credit for a good record and vaults into top 20 at #13 after beating Boyd, while Flower Mound drops a spot to #15 after tying Plano West (go figure). Keller drops out after losing to Fossil Ridge who enters at #20. Katy Seven Lakes is the other team to drop out after a loss and a tie. It would appear only head-to-head wins/losses will create much movement among the top 20. I would expect most of this group to stay largely unchanged until playoffs shakes things out. Others thoughts?

Which rankings do you guys think are the most accurate? The ESPN one above or Loco's http://www.sportsmobility.net/ ?

Depends on the criteria used in Loco's rankings.

Frogfan1 wrote:

Ferris wrote:

Frogfan1 wrote:Texas: 1. Southlake Carroll (18-1-0), 2. Plano West (11-1-3), 3. McKinney Boyd (12-1-2), 4. Marcus (16-2-0), 5. Mansfield (12-1-3), 6. Coppell (13-2-3), 7. Ursuline Academy (22-2-0*), 8. Klein Oak (14-0-1), 9. Kingwood (15-2-1), 10. Grapevine (14-2-2), 11. Westlake (10-3-4), 12. Cy-Fair (11-1-2), 13. Rowlett (10-1-3), 14. Fort Worth Country Day (16-1-1*), 15. Flower Mound (12-2-1), 16. Wakeland (14-0-2), 17. Fort Bend Austin (12-0-3), 18. St. Agnes (22-2-2*), 19. Denton Ryan (14-1-0), 20. Fossil Ridge (7-3-1).

Some interesting changes, although not unexpected...top 4 are shuffled after losses by Boyd and Marcus. Boyd drops 2 spots, Marcus 1. Southlake jumps two spots with a win on Tuesday and Plano West stands pat after a win and a tie. Rowlett gets credit for a good record and vaults into top 20 at #13 after beating Boyd, while Flower Mound drops a spot to #15 after tying Plano West (go figure). Keller drops out after losing to Fossil Ridge who enters at #20. Katy Seven Lakes is the other team to drop out after a loss and a tie. It would appear only head-to-head wins/losses will create much movement among the top 20. I would expect most of this group to stay largely unchanged until playoffs shakes things out. Others thoughts?

Which rankings do you guys think are the most accurate? The ESPN one above or Loco's http://www.sportsmobility.net/ ?

In general, I think the ESPN ranking does a pretty good job once there have been some games played to even out any lingering pre-season biases, etc. (a problem with any early season ranking system). In my opinion, ESPN tends to assign appropriate weighting to strength of each region, strength of 5A vs 4A vs Private, and common opponents overall. That's not to say that some of the pre-season biases don't tend to linger a bit. For example, Austin Westlake appears to be a good team (their only losses being all 1-0 to Carroll, Marcus and Klein Oak), however, they are ranked higher than I would expect on a consistent basis given their other ties. Similarly, Fossil Ridge is getting some acknowledgement for their wins over Plano West and Keller yet they are the only team with 3 losses (besides Westlake) in the Top 20. If I'm going to fire off some hot sports opinions, I guess I would add that Mansfield and Coppell seem to be ranked higher than they should be based on competition-to-date.

Loco's rankings are great, but different than ESPN's at this point. I really like to see all of the top Texas teams and where they stack up against each other based on their record. Loco's ranking is a statistical average based on record alone, although I know Loco has plans to incorporate strength-of-schedule, as well as his usual magic. He has shown before that his rankings can be very accurate on the whole and I would expect them to continue to evolve. Only a few of the top 50 on his list do not have complete game histories, but in general, the ranking appears to be a good snapshot of the top programs in the state as we move towards playoffs.

High School is different than the club rankings. The age group moves along over time, and the makeup of a team generally stayed the same. At least when the N+1 rule was still in place. The season was longer. There were many more games to work from.

The Varsity team of a High School changes radically from year to year, so past history doesn't really account for future performance. Though on rare occasion, there is some overlap year over year. One or 2 key players can come in as freshman, and make a difference for the full 4 years.

The big problem with rankings, especially early in the year, is the strength of schedule. How to determine it. Unlike club, where I could define multipliers, DI = 8, D2 = 4, D3 = 2, and Plano/Arlington = 1, High School doesn't lend itself to the same type of multipliers. Is 5A always better than 4A? Is 4A better than Private? Take Ursuline. Marcus beat them 2-0, and Plano West beat them 1-0. And thats it. They won everything else.

I'm having a hard time trying to come up with a math formula that considers all of the variability within each division. Then you have the district. Is 3-5A lower than 18-5A. Is 7-5A better than 8-5A? With the top 3 in 7-5A avg 21.67 in rank by record, and the top 3 in 8-5A avg 15.3 in rank by record. Lower is better by the way :-)

I'm guessing that there are some 4A districts that can beat the pants off some of the 5A districts. Likely, the schools in 4A that will be moving up to 5A, v. the 5As that are moving down to 4A. But, even that doesn't tell the story...

So, for now, until I can come up with something else, I'm sticking with record. You'll note that I added the ability to seperate the divisions out so that a strictly division comparison can also be made. You choose your poison.

Looking at just the 5A rankings, I'm pretty sure that the top 20 are pretty good. A few can be shuffled around a bit, but it's pretty decent I think. I think we'll see a few others pop up in the top 20, as they get more recorded games in the system.

We'll see who's better when the end is near..... Maybe.