04 Girls Pre-Season Poll

by FriscoSoccer2004 06/02/12, 09:09 am

With the Season starting this weekend, and several tournaments just finishing up, how would you rank/seed the teams, here are all known 60 teams:
Liverpool 04G RASE ELITE
DTA North Manchester 04G
Sting 04G Goodman
Fever FC 04G Red
Liverpool 04G Keegan
Liverpool 04G DALGLISH
DT 04G SOUTH Adames
DT 04 G Bennett (new coach?)
Tx Spirit 04G (North)
Tx Spirit 04G
JUVENTUS 04 BLACK (LOPEZ)
Solar 04G Kennington
Lady Aztecs 04G
Odyssey 04G
DT 04G DeLeon
Liverpool 04G Barnes
Solar 04G WHITE Kennington
GSSC 04 Thunder Girls - BROZ
Solar 04G Gold Kovarik
Sting E 04G Piper
AFC 04G RED Brown
Cosmos 04G Black Wallace
DT 04 G HIRSCH
DT 04G Adloo
DT 04G Ashmawy
DT Academy 04G Doyle
DT FW 04G Southerland
DTA North 04G Rosales
FC Dalals 04G Kim West
FC Dallas 04G Ciro
FC Dallas 04G Dowell RED
FC Premier JUAREZ
FC Xtreme 04G Alvarez
FC Xtreme 04G Marin
D'Feeters 04G
Fever FC 04G Black
FWFC 04G White
GLASA TOROS 04
Infinity FC 04G
JUVENTUS 04 GOLD (GRIFFIN)
Dallas Kicks 04G
Liverpool 04G Hansen
Liverpool 04G Redknapp
Liverpool 04G Whelan
Mutiny FC 04G (Shepard)
Polaris 04G
Dallas Pumas Premier FC 04
Saints 04G
Solar 04G Porter
Solar 04G Webb (red)
Solar 04G Wilson (East)
Solar Crushers 04G - BLACK
Solar Crushers 04G - White
Sting 04 G Parker
Sting 04G Mendoza
Sting 04G SCARFONE
Sting 04G SEARLS
Sting E 04G Chacon
Sting West 04 G Davis
Tx Spirit 04G (North) GREY

For Research, here are links to results for recent Tournaments:
Nov 13-14th AFC Adidas Fall Challenge: GOLD & SILVER DIVISION Standings: https://events.gotsport.com/(S(bnnramalppqdau550idqna55))/events/results.aspx?EventID=19625&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Nov 19-20th Primetime Sports Thanksgiving Shootout: http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/11.18.11.TX.SO.McK.U8G.pdf

Nov 19-20th Xara Fall Classic: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=21007&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Jan 28-29th Xara Winter Cup: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=21696&GroupID=194798&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Feb 3-5th Legacy Freedom Cup: https://events.gotsport.com/(S(akq1o0vbcnxriziz3143lam5))/events/results.aspx?EventID=21581&GroupID=203664&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Feb 3-5th Primetime Tournament: http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/24.12.TX.SO.CLTN.8G.pdf

by Shelby427 06/02/12, 09:26 am

Human rankings at this point are a guess in the dark.

I think we could agree on #1 but outside of that... even making the case for the top 5 is difficult as several of these teams have played no tournaments against each other if at all. You could probably list who is 6-15 but the order would be extremely subjective as these teams can beat each other on any given day.

I think the 04 group is the least decided in terms of rankings of any age group.

It would be nice if the top 04s played all together like the top 03s.

At the very least most of the top 15 teams are playing in EAL so we should be able to clear much of this group up. We probably won't have a clear picture until after the season AND Spring tournaments.

by Nocrying 06/02/12, 03:31 pm

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:With the Season starting this weekend, and several tournaments just finishing up, how would you rank/seed the teams, here are all known 60 teams:
Liverpool 04G RASE ELITE
DTA North Manchester 04G
Sting 04G Goodman
Fever FC 04G Red
Liverpool 04G Keegan
Liverpool 04G DALGLISH
DT 04G SOUTH Adames
DT 04 G Bennett (new coach?)
Tx Spirit 04G (North)
Tx Spirit 04G
JUVENTUS 04 BLACK (LOPEZ)
Solar 04G Kennington
Lady Aztecs 04G
Odyssey 04G
DT 04G DeLeon
Liverpool 04G Barnes
Solar 04G WHITE Kennington
GSSC 04 Thunder Girls - BROZ
Solar 04G Gold Kovarik
Sting E 04G Piper
AFC 04G RED Brown
Cosmos 04G Black Wallace
DT 04 G HIRSCH
DT 04G Adloo
DT 04G Ashmawy
DT Academy 04G Doyle
DT FW 04G Southerland
DTA North 04G Rosales
FC Dalals 04G Kim West
FC Dallas 04G Ciro
FC Dallas 04G Dowell RED
FC Premier JUAREZ
FC Xtreme 04G Alvarez
FC Xtreme 04G Marin
D'Feeters 04G
Fever FC 04G Black
FWFC 04G White
GLASA TOROS 04
Infinity FC 04G
JUVENTUS 04 GOLD (GRIFFIN)
Dallas Kicks 04G
Liverpool 04G Hansen
Liverpool 04G Redknapp
Liverpool 04G Whelan
Mutiny FC 04G (Shepard)
Polaris 04G
Dallas Pumas Premier FC 04
Saints 04G
Solar 04G Porter
Solar 04G Webb (red)
Solar 04G Wilson (East)
Solar Crushers 04G - BLACK
Solar Crushers 04G - White
Sting 04 G Parker
Sting 04G Mendoza
Sting 04G SCARFONE
Sting 04G SEARLS
Sting E 04G Chacon
Sting West 04 G Davis
Tx Spirit 04G (North) GREY

For Research, here are links to results for recent Tournaments:
Nov 13-14th AFC Adidas Fall Challenge: GOLD & SILVER DIVISION Standings: https://events.gotsport.com/(S(bnnramalppqdau550idqna55))/events/results.aspx?EventID=19625&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Nov 19-20th Primetime Sports Thanksgiving Shootout: http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/11.18.11.TX.SO.McK.U8G.pdf

Nov 19-20th Xara Fall Classic: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=21007&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Jan 28-29th Xara Winter Cup: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=21696&GroupID=194798&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Feb 3-5th Legacy Freedom Cup: https://events.gotsport.com/(S(akq1o0vbcnxriziz3143lam5))/events/results.aspx?EventID=21581&GroupID=203664&Sex=Girls&Age=8

Feb 3-5th Primetime Tournament: http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/24.12.TX.SO.CLTN.8G.pdf

Just a reminder- DT North DeLeon 04 was Texas Black Gold. And we are looking stronger, bigger and faster. Catch us if you can...... Gotta get in soccer mode again. I got in trouble for missing an early game this weekend.

by youthsports 06/02/12, 03:53 pm

My top 5 7v7

Dt north Manchester Rosales
LiverPool Raise (Dalglish) Elite
Solar Kennington 04 (unless they have lost the all star Forward)
Fever 04 Red
Dallas Juventus 04

I hope that the top 3 finishers in each league sign up for May 4-6, Primetime tournament. The location is central and hopefully we can get a better grasp of the top 04 teams.

Then I would like to see the top 04 teams play 9v9 in the June tournament to see just how far ahead or behind Liverpool Raise Elite everyone is.

My top 5 9v9

Liverpool Raise Elite
(Large Gap)
Dt North Manchester
Solar Kennington
every one else.

You would think that at least one or two of the Sting teams will be in the top 5 pretty soon.

by Crazy4Academy 06/02/12, 04:23 pm

youthsports wrote:My top 5 7v7

Dt north Manchester Rosales
LiverPool Raise (Dalglish) Elite
Solar Kennington 04 (unless they have lost the all star Forward)
Fever 04 Red
Dallas Juventus 04

I hope that the top 3 finishers in each league sign up for May 4-6, Primetime tournament. The location is central and hopefully we can get a better grasp of the top 04 teams.

Then I would like to see the top 04 teams play 9v9 in the June tournament to see just how far ahead or behind Liverpool Raise Elite everyone is.

My top 5 9v9

Liverpool Raise Elite
(Large Gap)
Dt North Manchester
Solar Kennington
every one else.

You would think that at least one or two of the Sting teams will be in the top 5 pretty soon.

I agree that the Liverpool team is #1. The top forward from Kennington has moved to the Liverpool team.

by SoccerDad4 06/02/12, 04:26 pm

Agree...it's only a matter of time before Sting and FCD each have a mainstay "top 10" team.

by WingNut 06/02/12, 04:28 pm

You have Fever FC in top 5. Very good team. LP Beardsley and LP Keegan Tied them 8v8 in tourney this weekend. Last meeting with LP Beardsley Vs. Fever was 1-0 win by Fever in last 45 seconds.

by Nocrying 06/02/12, 05:19 pm

1. The good LP team. whatever their name is now.
2. Solar-Kennington
3. DT North-DeLeon(old TBG)
4. DT North Rosales
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5.

Some of you guys need a drug test before you start posting rankings.....

by pumas 06/02/12, 05:26 pm

Lots of players have changed teams, and many REC players have jumped into academy soccer. Should be fun this season.

by lovesoccer 06/02/12, 07:03 pm

Nocrying wrote:
1. The good LP team. whatever their name is now.
2. Solar-Kennington
3. DT North-DeLeon(old TBG)
4. DT North Rosales
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5.

Some of you guys need a drug test before you start posting rankings.....

1-LP
2-DTN (has beaten Solar every time they have matched this fall)
3-TBG
4-DT (formally Bennett)
5-Fever
6-Solar (with them losing both their star forwards and their mid fielder). This will not be the team from the fall.

by WhatwhatWHAT!! 06/02/12, 08:33 pm

lovesoccer wrote:
Nocrying wrote:
1. The good LP team. whatever their name is now.
2. Solar-Kennington
3. DT North-DeLeon(old TBG)
4. DT North Rosales
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5.

Some of you guys need a drug test before you start posting rankings.....

Lost ONE top forward and a mid. Gained several TOP players from the white team. We will see how the season goes, should be fun!!

1-LP
2-DTN (has beaten Solar every time they have matched this fall)
3-TBG
4-DT (formally Bennett)
5-Fever
6-Solar (with them losing both their star forwards and their mid fielder). This will not be the team from the fall.

by lovesoccer 06/02/12, 09:59 pm

WhatwhatWHAT!! wrote:
lovesoccer wrote:
Nocrying wrote:
1. The good LP team. whatever their name is now.
2. Solar-Kennington
3. DT North-DeLeon(old TBG)
4. DT North Rosales
.
.
.
.
.
5.

Some of you guys need a drug test before you start posting rankings.....

Lost ONE top forward and a mid. Gained several TOP players from the white team. We will see how the season goes, should be fun!!

1-LP
2-DTN (has beaten Solar every time they have matched this fall)
3-TBG
4-DT (formally Bennett)
5-Fever
6-Solar (with them losing both their star forwards and their mid fielder). This will not be the team from the fall.

I heard that it was a total of 3 players but my information could be wrong but the person who told me is pretty reliable. I hope Solar's new additions keep them in the hunt. I just know it's going to be hard to replace their star forward.

by TCUDad 06/02/12, 10:20 pm

1. Liverpool
2. DT North
3. DT Bennett (Over rated? Need to play more tournaments)
4. DT Deleon(TBG)
5. Fever (Always win when it counts)
6. Solar Kennington
7. Texas Spirit North
7. Juventus Black
8. Liverpool Barnes
9. Liverpool Keegan
10. Texas Spirit

Once the season starts we will find out who really deserves to be in the top ten. Could be other teams that deserve to be in the top ten, but you have to step up and play well in tournaments to really prove it.

by KSD 06/02/12, 11:33 pm

TCUDad wrote:1. Liverpool
2. DT North
3. DT Bennett (Over rated? Need to play more tournaments)
4. DT Deleon(TBG)
5. Fever (Always win when it counts)
6. Solar Kennington
7. Texas Spirit North
7. Juventus Black
8. Liverpool Barnes
9. Liverpool Keegan
10. Texas Spirit

Once the season starts we will find out who really deserves to be in the top ten. Could be other teams that deserve to be in the top ten, but you have to step up and play well in tournaments to really prove it.

We need more emotion people. Come on. Jeesh! Laughing

by FriscoSoccer2004 07/02/12, 08:10 am

kellersoccerdad wrote:
TCUDad wrote:1. Liverpool
2. DT North
3. DT Bennett (Over rated? Need to play more tournaments)
4. DT Deleon(TBG)
5. Fever (Always win when it counts)
6. Solar Kennington
7. Texas Spirit North
7. Juventus Black
8. Liverpool Barnes
9. Liverpool Keegan
10. Texas Spirit

Once the season starts we will find out who really deserves to be in the top ten. Could be other teams that deserve to be in the top ten, but you have to step up and play well in tournaments to really prove it.

We need more emotion people. Come on. Jeesh!

Ok. How is that

by KSD 07/02/12, 08:14 am

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:
kellersoccerdad wrote:
TCUDad wrote:1. Liverpool
2. DT North
3. DT Bennett (Over rated? Need to play more tournaments)
4. DT Deleon(TBG)
5. Fever (Always win when it counts)
6. Solar Kennington
7. Texas Spirit North
7. Juventus Black
8. Liverpool Barnes
9. Liverpool Keegan
10. Texas Spirit

Once the season starts we will find out who really deserves to be in the top ten. Could be other teams that deserve to be in the top ten, but you have to step up and play well in tournaments to really prove it.

We need more emotion people. Come on. Jeesh!

Ok. How is that

Well played, FriscoSoccer05. Well played.

by Shelby427 07/02/12, 09:05 am

A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

by Guest 07/02/12, 09:14 am

Shelby427 wrote:A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

Has Juventus Beaten Doyle (formerly Bennett)? Can they now? NO!
Has Juventus Beaten Fever?
Not too certified there Shelby. Your certification authorization has been revoked.

by Nocrying 07/02/12, 09:26 am

soccerdud1 wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

Has Juventus Beaten Doyle (formerly Bennett)? Can they now? NO!
Has Juventus Beaten Fever?
Not too certified there Shelby. Your certification authorization has been revoked.

I hate to bring up an old topic Shelby but did you see that game between TBG and Juventus? Both goals scored by Juventus were by a player from another team(Lady Aztecs). Juventus used players from other teams.
I will admit, if Juventus has the same roster still, they are a very good team. But I know for a fact that they do not. I think teams that borrow more then 1 or 2 players should not be given credit especially when you borrow a player to be the best player on the field.

by TCUDad 07/02/12, 09:27 am

Shelby427 wrote:A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s. OK, sue me. It's just rankings dude.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup.
Someone posted that Juventus was using guest players in that tournament. True or False?
Has Juventus proven themselves in any tournaments during the last few weeks? You can't expect people to consider your team as a top 5 until you prove yourself against the other top teams.
Have you played DT North?
Have you played Solar Kennington?
Have you played Fever?
Have you played DT Bennett?
If so, post those scores and we can re-evaluate where Juventus should be ranked.

by go99 07/02/12, 10:04 am

Okay I have it from a friend who is the cousin of a reliable source that works with a parent from the rowdies/bennet/??? team. Their players have been guesting and getting game sharp. Laying low as a group in practice, ready to punce on the 04's. Rosales has a nice team but time to take back the Texan crown from the former king and the new upstart Ponce De'Leon.

by FriscoSoccer2004 07/02/12, 10:15 am

go99 wrote:Okay I have it from a friend who is the cousin of a reliable source that works with a parent from the rowdies/bennet/??? team. Their players have been guesting and getting game sharp. Laying low as a group in practice, ready to punce on the 04's. Rosales has a nice team but time to take back the Texan crown from the former king and the new upstart Ponce De'Leon.

You forgot to mention neither the friend nor co-worker have dogs in this hunt!

PS- Like the location...

by Shelby427 07/02/12, 10:17 am

TCUDad wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s. OK, sue me. It's just rankings dude.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup.
Someone posted that Juventus was using guest players in that tournament. True or False?
Has Juventus proven themselves in any tournaments during the last few weeks? You can't expect people to consider your team as a top 5 until you prove yourself against the other top teams.
Have you played DT North?
Have you played Solar Kennington?
Have you played Fever?
Have you played DT Bennett?
If so, post those scores and we can re-evaluate where Juventus should be ranked.

First off I have nothing to do with Juventus and that is clear to any long time posters on here. I am as objective as it gets on these rankings as the two teams I have ties to are not even listed in my top 5.

Second, who knows if it is true about Aztecs and Juventus players. As far as I know that could just be a rumor. Either way I would put both Aztecs and Juventus over TBG as I have seen all 3 teams play. In addition, you have Texas Spirit ranked so low and they tied TBG in their play game 1-1. Did Texas Spirit "borrow" players too?

Finally, in my rankings I penalized Doyle (bennett) for not playing ANY tournments in 6 months. If you don't play you get bumped down.

The only teams that are CLEARLY above the rest in terms of being able to win 8 out of 10 are LP RASE and DT North.

by go99 07/02/12, 10:19 am

That is true, they have no dog in this hunt. They are an older "the feet'R" parent

by Nocrying 07/02/12, 10:33 am

Shelby427 wrote:
TCUDad wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s.

Next you have TBG number 4!?!?!? Any reason you guys put TBG 4th? TBG (Now Texans Deleon) is top 10 but not in top 5.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup. Juventus Black is top 5 and in fact they should be top 3 since Bennett (Now Doyle) has not played anything lately.

This is a much more accurate Shelby certified top 5:

1. Liverpool RASE
2. DT North
3. Juventus Black
4. DT Doyle (formerly Bennett)
5. Fever

6-12 can really beat each other on any given day and ranking them is a crap shoot.

A few problems with this list. First you have two #7s. OK, sue me. It's just rankings dude.

Consider you have Juventus Black at number 7 when Juventus black beat TBG 2-0 and went on to finish runner up to Dalglish losing 5-2 in the Fall Cup.
Someone posted that Juventus was using guest players in that tournament. True or False?
Has Juventus proven themselves in any tournaments during the last few weeks? You can't expect people to consider your team as a top 5 until you prove yourself against the other top teams.
Have you played DT North?
Have you played Solar Kennington?
Have you played Fever?
Have you played DT Bennett?
If so, post those scores and we can re-evaluate where Juventus should be ranked.

First off I have nothing to do with Juventus and that is clear to any long time posters on here. I am as objective as it gets on these rankings as the two teams I have ties to are not even listed in my top 5.

Second, who knows if it is true about Aztecs and Juventus players. As far as I know that could just be a rumor. Either way I would put both Aztecs and Juventus over TBG as I have seen all 3 teams play. In addition, you have Texas Spirit ranked so low and they tied TBG in their play game 1-1. Did Texas Spirit "borrow" players too?

Finally, in my rankings I penalized Doyle (bennett) for not playing ANY tournments in 6 months. If you don't play you get bumped down.

The only teams that are CLEARLY above the rest in terms of being able to win 8 out of 10 are LP RASE and DT North.

Fair enough Shelby. The Texas Spirit Team is a good team. They are top 10 for sure. Not sure why Juve and Aztecs do not go ahead and combine teams? But the combo of Juve/Lady Aztecs do make a really good team, top 5.

As far as DeLeon's case for top 5. We have tied Rosales, beaten Rowdies, consistently beaten Beardsley tied and lost close games to Solar Kenn. Tied Tx Spirit, beat Texas Spirit North. Just won the Primetime tourney and beat a good Sting team in the finals.

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