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Why can't FIFA do this? (simulation)
Why can't FIFA do this? (simulation)
I have often expressed my theory that if you stop or penalize an unwanted behavior in the pro game, it effects positive change in the amateur or youth game.
I would absolutely love to see FIFA do post game analysis of games and issue yellow (maybe even red) cards for flopping or "simulation" as it is called in the LOTG. The professional leagues have cumulative card rules, so eventually, the floppers would end up sitting out games. Being forced to sit out games would change the frequency of the flops, which would trickle-down to the youth game.
Sure, a flop may occur here and there, and it may be used as a tactical play (risk vs reward), but more on the lines of Suarez's handball (tactically a genius play), and less the constant flopping like Blanco (or half of the Italians for that matter). Is it any wonder that since Blanco retired from soccer, he is now acting (badly) in spanish novelas?
The problem is that simulation is so infrequently called, and adversely, so many free kicks awarded for a well executed flop, that the risk of getting caught cheating is very, very low. The floppers are rewarded for their cheating an inordinate percentage of the time, and the kids emulate their professional counterparts.
So...Why can't FIFA do like the NBA is proposing?
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Stevie G for both club and country.. That's the thing, every team has a few.Master Bates wrote:Ashley Young?
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I say change the advantage rule to be a delayed penalty like hockey, or even a "free play" like american football -- maybe go as far as an "and-one" like in basketball? (maybe not on that last one). Point is, a foul is a foul - I would vote for the delayed penalty during advantage time - if a goal is scored, the penalty is negated. If posession is lost, the penalty is enforced.go99 wrote:the problem becomes then what do you do with all off the fouls that are not called. I remember watching a ManU game and Nani takes a kick to the leg in the box. He stumbles but stays on his feat because he thinks he can get back to the ball. When he doesn't score the announcer says "he should have went down right there. He would have gotten the PK" The reality is if you don't go down you are probably not going to get the call even though it is a foul.
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Gazza would get punished making a classic move in the box, rarely saw him go down.. Be interesting to see how they would handle it in the game today.go99 wrote:the problem becomes then what do you do with all off the fouls that are not called. I remember watching a ManU game and Nani takes a kick to the leg in the box. He stumbles but stays on his feat because he thinks he can get back to the ball. When he doesn't score the announcer says "he should have went down right there. He would have gotten the PK" The reality is if you don't go down you are probably not going to get the call even though it is a foul.
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I've both played advantage and warned the upper level kids for diving.
On one incident, I could clearly see that a U17 boy was taken down in the box with only a couple of defenders in the penalty area. The coach was screaming for a penalty. I saw the ball rolling away from the defenders and waited a couple of seconds because I saw an onrushing teammate come flying into the area. He buried it for a goal. When I was jogging back for the restart, I turned towards the coach and said, "Coach, would you rather have the goal or the PK?" He just glared at me, seemingly unamused.
On the diving incident, I remember a time when I was reffing a U16 boys game and could easily tell that the left winger had great footskills and would love to take defenders on 1v1. He would enter the area and would go down VERY softly. He would roll over and look at me incredulously when I wouldn't award the PK. On the third time I noticed it, I said to him, "I know you have fantastic skills, but I also realize what you are doing. Do it again and I'll book you for USB. Just play the game." He didn't go down again.
I suppose it just will always vary from ref to ref. That's why "In the Opinion of the Referee" is ALL over the place.
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Gunner9 wrote:They'd have to shut down Serie A and the Mexican league completely.
Yeah... what's your point?
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10sDad wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8433232/nba-finalizing-procedures-penalize-players-flopping
I have often expressed my theory that if you stop or penalize an unwanted behavior in the pro game, it effects positive change in the amateur or youth game.
I would absolutely love to see FIFA do post game analysis of games and issue yellow (maybe even red) cards for flopping or "simulation" as it is called in the LOTG. The professional leagues have cumulative card rules, so eventually, the floppers would end up sitting out games. Being forced to sit out games would change the frequency of the flops, which would trickle-down to the youth game.
Sure, a flop may occur here and there, and it may be used as a tactical play (risk vs reward), but more on the lines of Suarez's handball (tactically a genius play), and less the constant flopping like Blanco (or half of the Italians for that matter). Is it any wonder that since Blanco retired from soccer, he is now acting (badly) in spanish novelas?
The problem is that simulation is so infrequently called, and adversely, so many free kicks awarded for a well executed flop, that the risk of getting caught cheating is very, very low. The floppers are rewarded for their cheating an inordinate percentage of the time, and the kids emulate their professional counterparts.
So...Why can't FIFA do like the NBA is proposing?
No doubt about it, this is an idea who's time has come. The sooner the better.
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