'03 Girls FBR Rankings - 03-07-13

by Guest 07/03/13, 09:58 am

Current Rankings include game results from 11/03/12 through PRESENT

O.K. This should keep the crankiness going on the boards for another day or so... Called my bookie in Vegas and got my $$$ down on which team I get the first nasty-o-gram about...

Weekly '03 FBR Disclaimer:

SRSA '03 Solca has dropped from the FBR rankings due to having played fewer than 3 games against NTX '03 girls opponents during the current FBR ranking history period. SRSA '03 Solca is the de-facto #1 girls team in NTX until they are beaten by another '03 girls team from somewhere in the known universe (or even the unknown universe for that matter...).

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Current Inter-Tier Records
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by Texandad 07/03/13, 10:10 am

Ok, I will make an argument for our friend Mr. Lockwood. His daughters Suarez team has a winning record of 5-1-2. How are they ranked below Gio? Gio has played 4 games and has a 500 record and they are 8? What about d'feeters ? Losing record and ranked 13 and cosmos, losing record and 11? How are d'feeters and cosmos in the top 20 with losing records?

This should get some people talking for sure?

by JewelsBMF 07/03/13, 10:17 am

I'm pretty sure gopher just has a paragraph he can copy/paste he's answered this same question probably 100 times

by Texandad 07/03/13, 10:20 am

Just trying to help our investment friend. I thought I would put it out there before he starts talking about destruction and world dominance.

by Guest 07/03/13, 10:22 am

Pure and simple... strength of opponents played.

Multiple examples from '01's and '02's where teams with "poor" W-L records from playing strong competition were ranked near and/or ahead of teams with "good" W-L records from playing weaker competition, where the accuracy of FBR was proven out by LHGCL QT results and subsequent performance in LHGCL at U11.

Will spare everyone the details again unless someone insists on me posting the examples...

by Guest 07/03/13, 10:23 am

bwgophers wrote:Pure and simple... strength of opponents played.

Multiple examples from '01's and '02's where teams with "poor" W-L records from playing strong competition were ranked near and/or ahead of teams with "good" W-L records from playing weaker competition, where the accuracy of FBR was proven out by LHGCL QT results and subsequent performance in LHGCL at U11.

Will spare everyone the details again unless someone insists on me posting the examples...

Oh god please no!

by Texandad 07/03/13, 10:26 am

bwgophers wrote:Pure and simple... strength of opponents played.

Multiple examples from '01's and '02's where teams with "poor" W-L records from playing strong competition were ranked near and/or ahead of teams with "good" W-L records from playing weaker competition, where the accuracy of FBR was proven out by LHGCL QT results and subsequent performance in LHGCL at U11.

Will spare everyone the details again unless someone insists on me posting the examples...

Okay that makes sense. I think even Mr. Lockwood could understand that.

by lochwoodinvestments 07/03/13, 10:33 am

Hey Texandad I appreciate you advocating on my behalf...However I do understand Joe Lunardi's ranking system...

by RedCard45 07/03/13, 10:40 am

What happened to Lady Aztecs 03 Moreno (EAL)? Am I just missing them? Last week they were ranked #33, but I do not see them this week. Also, #30 Sting 03 North Garrett shows SDL D2 and EAL, but I do not see them on the EAL schedule.

by Guest 07/03/13, 10:47 am

Interesting rankings, FCD Premier is sliding, LP Rase seems like they are establishing themselves as solid #2 team. Gutierrez is coming on strong. Looks like the questions on who should have been in tgpl gold have been settled, LP Rush should have been picked instead of LP Keegan or Sting West. I want to see LP Rase play DT Adames, that would be interesting

by Lifesabeach 07/03/13, 11:00 am

FCD Premier is 0-4 in TPGL and still 7th?

by Guest 07/03/13, 11:15 am

Lifesabeach wrote:FCD Premier is 0-4 in TPGL and still 7th?

i have to admit i was curious about that, thought they would be punished more in the rankings...

by Guest 07/03/13, 11:30 am

RedCard45 wrote:What happened to Lady Aztecs 03 Moreno (EAL)? Am I just missing them? Last week they were ranked #33, but I do not see them this week. Also, #30 Sting 03 North Garrett shows SDL D2 and EAL, but I do not see them on the EAL schedule.

When I deleted the oldest week of results from the database this week, that dropped LA Moreno below the 3 game minimum that I require to list a team in the rankings. For some reason, LA Moreno has not played any games during the first couple of weeks of EAL, and isn't scheduled to play any games until 3/17. Once they get back above the 3 game minimum in their history, they will show back up in the rankings. Looks like that will happen around the end of this month.

Sting North Garrett in EAL is a typo that I will correct. I think at one time, they were being listed as playing in EAL, but looks like they decided to stick with SDL.

by GrandTXSoccer 07/03/13, 11:49 am

Didn't Premier win a tournament recently and won against some pretty good teams? I think that's probably what's keeping them afloat in the rankings. Once they start scoring again they will be fine.

by Guest 07/03/13, 11:52 am

silentparent wrote:
Lifesabeach wrote:FCD Premier is 0-4 in TPGL and still 7th?

i have to admit i was curious about that, thought they would be punished more in the rankings...

FCD Premier's 7 losses are to:

#1 RASE
#2 FC East
#3 Sting G (but also have a draw against Sting G)
#4 DT South
#6 Fever
#9 Sting M(but also have a W against Sting M)
#12 LP Keegan (but also have a W against LP Keegan)

All of these losses (except 0-4 to Sting G) are by 1 or 2 goal margins.

2 draws against #13 D'Feeters
Worst result in their history is a draw against #22 GSSC Thunder.

They also have W's over:
#5 LP Rush (3-0)
#11 Cosmos
#14 Sting West

Depending on how you slice and dice all of the results, I believe that anywhere between #6-#9 is a legitimate spot for FCD Premier right now.

by Texandad 07/03/13, 12:14 pm

I think it is safe to say that fever, premier, and cosmos are on the way down no matter what their ranking is now, they are sliding fast.

by MaskedWriter 07/03/13, 12:20 pm

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silentparent wrote:Looks like the questions on who should have been in tgpl gold have been settled, LP Rush should have been picked instead of LP Keegan or Sting West.

So much angst on this board about Keegan which I just don't "get" ... They currently sit 7th out of 12 in TGPL Gold posting a 2-2-0 record. Their 2 losses are to teams currently sitting #2 and #3 in the standings - so while not world beaters, they are squarely in the middle-of-the-pack. It seems to me that at this point in time, there are 5 other teams that need to be brought into this discussion about the merits of being accepted into TGPL Gold before we ever get to Keegan. Unless, that is, there is some unwritten rule about having a max of 2 teams per academy participating in a league -- in that case, let's discuss the merits of Sting first since I believe that they have 3 in TGPL Gold ...

To me, it sounds like this should be more of a discussion around the merits of Rush or others as opposed to the bias(?) shown Keegan. I get it: Keegan is - as flygirl states, "inconsistent" - but other than the top 5 teams, who isn't at this stage?

by Guest 07/03/13, 01:12 pm

MaskedWriter wrote:(
silentparent wrote:Looks like the questions on who should have been in tgpl gold have been settled, LP Rush should have been picked instead of LP Keegan or Sting West.

So much angst on this board about Keegan which I just don't "get" ... They currently sit 7th out of 12 in TGPL Gold posting a 2-2-0 record. Their 2 losses are to teams currently sitting #2 and #3 in the standings - so while not world beaters, they are squarely in the middle-of-the-pack. It seems to me that at this point in time, there are 5 other teams that need to be brought into this discussion about the merits of being accepted into TGPL Gold before we ever get to Keegan. Unless, that is, there is some unwritten rule about having a max of 2 teams per academy participating in a league -- in that case, let's discuss the merits of Sting first since I believe that they have 3 in TGPL Gold ...

To me, it sounds like this should be more of a discussion around the merits of Rush or others as opposed to the bias(?) shown Keegan. I get it: Keegan is - as flygirl states, "inconsistent" - but other than the top 5 teams, who isn't at this stage?

i just think frankly it was odd for Keegan to be promoted into Gold and Dfeeters to be sent into silver. I have watched Keegan, Rush and the Dfeeters play. I think Rush is a better team and have done better in tournaments than Keegan. Keegan has also never beat them. Now having said that Keegan is a good team that is very inconsistent, even losing to our FCD Suarez friends. I think they are a good team but should be in Silver. I also agree about the Sting teams but that is a different can of worms...

by Texandad 07/03/13, 01:32 pm

Why all the crying over spilled milk? It is halfway through the season and you guys keep bringing up the same argument. What's don is done and has been done for a while. D'feeters is not a gold team. They are 2-1-1 in silver and are in 5th place. Rush is great in silver, but loses to 04 Rase, keegan recently beat 04 rase 3-1, and rush has no competition in the UAL. Why are they not playing in PTCL Gold? Keegan caught a break and moved to Gold. They have the same record as Gio. I think the teams you need to question are cosmos, goodman, and vitesse.

by Guest 07/03/13, 01:34 pm

Why is it that Polaris Black record is still the same from the fall? 1 tie vs AYSES on a last minute game reschedule (play them again this weekend), 6-0 win vs Andromeda Ramsden and 6-1 vs D'feeters Mmemba. So help me understand why they are sliding and why their record hasn't changed. Andromeda has beaten a couple teams that have moved up and D'feeters tied a team that moved up. So, please help me understand that. Thanks!!

by NoFanOfDrama 07/03/13, 02:09 pm

bwgophers wrote:
silentparent wrote:
Lifesabeach wrote:FCD Premier is 0-4 in TPGL and still 7th?

i have to admit i was curious about that, thought they would be punished more in the rankings...

FCD Premier's 7 losses are to:

#1 RASE
#2 FC East
#3 Sting G (but also have a draw against Sting G)
#4 DT South
#6 Fever
#9 Sting M(but also have a W against Sting M)
#12 LP Keegan (but also have a W against LP Keegan)

All of these losses are by 1 or 2 goal margins.

Correction - 2 weeks ago, Sting G beat FCD Premier 4-0

by Guest 07/03/13, 02:26 pm

NoFanOfDrama wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
silentparent wrote:
Lifesabeach wrote:FCD Premier is 0-4 in TPGL and still 7th?

i have to admit i was curious about that, thought they would be punished more in the rankings...

FCD Premier's 7 losses are to:

#1 RASE
#2 FC East
#3 Sting G (but also have a draw against Sting G)
#4 DT South
#6 Fever
#9 Sting M(but also have a W against Sting M)
#12 LP Keegan (but also have a W against LP Keegan)

All of these losses are by 1 or 2 goal margins.

Correction - 2 weeks ago, Sting G beat FCD Premier 4-0

Yes, you are correct on that. My bad for the mis-statement.

by Guest 07/03/13, 02:34 pm

TheStopperZ12 wrote:Why is it that Polaris Black record is still the same from the fall? 1 tie vs AYSES on a last minute game reschedule (play them again this weekend), 6-0 win vs Andromeda Ramsden and 6-1 vs D'feeters Mmemba. So help me understand why they are sliding and why their record hasn't changed. Andromeda has beaten a couple teams that have moved up and D'feeters tied a team that moved up. So, please help me understand that. Thanks!!

I keep the last 16 weeks worth of results in the database. So each week, as I add new results, I am also deleting old results. Just so happens that over the past 3 weeks, Polaris has both added and dropped 2 W's and a Draw. Therefore, record stays the same.

Then, you have to compare the relative strength of the results that have been added, to the results that have been dropped, not just for Polaris, but also for all of the teams that have moved ahead of Polaris in the past 3 weeks. That is what will explain the overall movement in the rankings.

If you need a detailed breakdown of this for Polaris and the 6 teams that have moved ahead of them in the rankings over the past 3 weeks, I can give it to you, but it will take a bit of time to summarize that, and I do not have that time this afternoon.

by Guest 07/03/13, 02:37 pm

bwgophers wrote:
TheStopperZ12 wrote:Why is it that Polaris Black record is still the same from the fall? 1 tie vs AYSES on a last minute game reschedule (play them again this weekend), 6-0 win vs Andromeda Ramsden and 6-1 vs D'feeters Mmemba. So help me understand why they are sliding and why their record hasn't changed. Andromeda has beaten a couple teams that have moved up and D'feeters tied a team that moved up. So, please help me understand that. Thanks!!

I keep the last 16 weeks worth of results in the database. So each week, as I add new results, I am also deleting old results. Just so happens that over the past 3 weeks, Polaris has both added and dropped 2 W's and a Draw. Therefore, record stays the same.

Then, you have to compare the relative strength of the results that have been added, to the results that have been dropped, not just for Polaris, but also for all of the teams that have moved ahead of Polaris in the past 3 weeks. That is what will explain the overall movement in the rankings.

If you need a detailed breakdown of this for Polaris and the 6 teams that have moved ahead of them in the rankings over the past 3 weeks, I can give it to you, but it will take a bit of time to summarize that, and I do not have that time this afternoon.

by TheDudeAbides 07/03/13, 03:04 pm

Gophers,
What constitutes a "point" in the FBR?

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