PPL well done.

With everyone calling infranctions before they occcured the list below of the 8 byes and the 28 trying for 2 spots have been created. Not a whole lot to complain about. Top two teams in terms of points (no sum of the years digits method) get in two division 1. The next 5 bracket winners and 5 WC get into division 2 on next 10 for division 3 and remaining into division 4.

Someone what to seed the 28 and pick the two that sneak into Division 1 and the next 10 for Division 2.

Division 1

AFC 01G white
Andromeda 01G Blue
Frisco Fusion 01G
Infinity 01G
Liverpool 01G Keegan
Odyssey 01G
Solar Navy 01G
Texas LoneStars 01G


Playing for Placement.

AFC 01G Red
Amarillo Lightning 01G
Andromeda 01G Red
Celtic 01G
Dallas Kicks 01G Magenta
DC United 01G
DTxn 01G White North
FC Dallas 01G Blue
FC Dallas 01G Red
FC Dallas WTX 01G Ramirez
FC Flames 01G
FC Force ESS 01G
FC Storm 01G Blue
FC Storm 01G Red
FC Trinity 01G
Forney 01G
GSSC Thunder 01G
HPSA Scots 01G
Meja Williams 01G
Mustangs 01G
Mutiny 01G
On the Ball 01G
Pachuca 01G
Real Estudiantil Gold 01G
RFC Hotspurs 01G
Sting 01G Taylor
Sting Fort Worth 01G
Texas Spirit North Red 01G

AFC Red and Sting FT Worth must not have had "N+1" rosters. From the PPL format "GUIDELINES".......

"If a PPL D1 top 10 team does not return or makes Classic/Lake Highlands we will accept a Classic or
Lake Highlands team in their place. With N+1"

If neither team had N+1 rosters, then what PPL did makes sense and the qualifying for remaining 2 D1 spots is a fair compromise.

If one or both of those teams did qualify for the bye under N+1 rule, and I thought I read that Sting Ft. Worth did not, then they got screwed and PPL once again went against their published guidelines to take care of their own. Both teams played LH last year and just missed qualifying this year. Both advanced further then AFC White and Andro Blue, and should have received the byes over them. So all I can think is that the had too much roster turnover.

At the same time though, I had heard a lot of turnover regarding some of last years PPL teams that got byes as well (Infinity & Solar Navy being a couple examples). Not sure they actually qualified under the roster rule either.

Someone in the know can clarify if they like.

Once and for all, Solar Navy has N+1.  

On a more positive note, I think PPL got it right with moving AFC and Andromeda into D1, Happy for those teams, and Lone Stars too.

I like the format and think it will contribute to a good competitive tourney and a competitive year.

May the odds be forever in your favor.

I think it was just that rumours. Nothing to be woried about. You have your N+1 and the bye. Keep on playing. It's a long season.

I think they wanted to open it(Division 1) a little but left the two Classic teams a way in even without N+1. Looking at the list of 28 and how they did at QT one would say they are the 1 and 2 seeds and should have the easiest bracket to score max points and get the last two spots in Div 1. A lot of teams will be fighting for the chance to get it. So it's going to be a fun hot weekend. Let the games begin.

where did you find this list of who was playing...... looking for 02 list

If anyone has a link with this updated bye info, please share.

Your coach or manager should have been greated with the wonderful e-mail today.

While your coach is probably trying to figure out do they want to fight for Division 1, 2 or 3.

The schedule should be out shortly as well and the girls preparation, play on the field, luck of the draw, unlucky bounce, ability to finish, ability to handle the moment will all play in the ultimate result on the field. However, over the three games those that consistently play better then their opposition will end up in Division 1. Good luck to all. Even those in my bracket whenever it comes out.

Tiki-taka wrote:On a more positive note, I think PPL got it right with moving AFC and Andromeda into D1, Happy for those teams, and Lone Stars too.

I like the format and think it will contribute to a good competitive tourney and a competitive year.

May the odds be forever in your favor.

I agree with your statements, TikTak. It would have been a tough pill to swallow in seeing the top two D2 teams from last year have to start over despite having earned the advancement bye (and having very strong pre-season showings in tournaments). But at the same time - and as I've mentioned before - it made perfect sense that PYSA needed to change the playing formats to 10 league divisions. So when you put both of those concepts together, it made for some hard decisions by PYSA, and they probably did indeed get it right. It's refreshing to see an organization put thought into how they are doing things. Maybe someone over there actually reads all of the drivel we post.

Nahhh....

I Just picked this up on another thread. I don't know if this will stay this way but my guess is this is it.

http://www.planoyouthsoccer.org/cgi-bin/Qualifying_2009/schedules/

Tiki-taka wrote:On a more positive note, I think PPL got it right with moving AFC and Andromeda into D1, Happy for those teams, and Lone Stars too.

I like the format and think it will contribute to a good competitive tourney and a competitive year.

May the odds be forever in your favor.

..............only if AFC Red & Sting Ft. Worth did not meet the N+1 rule (which like I said, I believe it was posted that Sting did not).  If neither did, then I agree that PPL did the right thing there.  If AFC Red met the rule, they should be in over one of those two.  Anyone with AFC Red that can confirm that.............for curiosity sake?

Sting had 9 returning players...

pitchdad wrote:Sting had 9 returning players...

Well, if that's the case then PPL got it wrong again this year.  That would have met the bye guidelines.  Not sure where I read that Sting was short of that and apologize if I was wrong.

And before anyone else overreacts, not saying that AFC White or Andro Blue don't deserve byes, just saying if it was between moving those teams up to D1 or giving byes to Sting & AFC Red, then they failed in their decision.

Too bad.  Ya'll got screwed by Sting for not being given their vacated D3 bye and now by PPL.  Tough way to start the year.

Tiki-taka wrote:Once and for all, Solar Navy has N+1.  

No worries, I saw your original post.  Severe overreaction and good thing you're "Chilaxing".

Never realized there was anything mentioned about it prior. Apparently I missed the thread where Solar Navy was viciously attacked on the forum for their roster situation and you sped to the rescue of their empire to defend them.  But thanks for clarifying and saving the day Superman.

I can't help but wonder if this could be a case of PYSA indicating they will not always operate in the shadow of LHGCL. Think about it for a minute. You've got two teams that finished at or near the bottom of LH D3, several teams that finished in the middle/lower middle of PPL D1, and two that took the top of PPL D2. Add to that the statement in the PYSA bylaws that make it clear that the Competitive Committee will ultimately make the decision on how teams are placed if there are any discrepancies or question marks. Given that PPL is changing its format beginning this fall, this generates even more uncertainty such that someone has to step in and make the hard decisions. A few teams were going to inevitably feel like they didn't get a fair shake in it all and certainly have valid points to that effect.

I would say that sting and AFC Red should have gotten ppl 1 byes close it out. Besides those two teams, I don't see anyone else that really deserves to be in that division at this time. Overall though I give ppl props for not messing this all up like they ussually do.

Who will make PPL 2 and 3 will be interesting. Lots of new teams on the block also.

JustaSport wrote:I can't help but wonder if this could be a case of PYSA indicating they will not always operate in the shadow of LHGCL.  Think about it for a minute.  You've got two teams that finished at or near the bottom of LH D3, several teams that finished in the middle/lower middle of PPL D1, and two that took the top of PPL D2.  Add to that the statement in the PYSA bylaws that make it clear that the Competitive Committee will ultimately make the decision on how teams are placed if there are any discrepancies or question marks.  Given that PPL is changing its format beginning this fall, this generates even more uncertainty such that someone has to step in and make the hard decisions.  A few teams were going to inevitably feel like they didn't get a fair shake in it all and certainly have valid points to that effect.

Understand what you're saying and I've been all over this forum saying PPL always does things are their own discretion, and never to take anything they've got published or written as something they will follow.

Regardless of where the teams finished last year, all four played in QT.  AFC White and Andro Blue were out after first weekend.  AFC Red and Sting both played the 2nd weekend and were in contention going in to their final games.  So if recent scope of work means anything, regardless of what league they played in last year, common sense tells you those 2 teams should have received discretionary byes over AFC White and Andro Blue if they followed their published guidelines.  But they didn't and the way it appears is they based their decision on who played PPL last year and who didn't.  It's consistent with what happened last year with Kicks East.  Not a surprise I wouldn't think at this point.

And I 100% agree with the statement in red.  These types of results to their discretionary decisions are proof.

It is what it is and our opinions really don't matter at this point.  I think I saw previous posts that you were with Andro Blue, so congrats on the bye and happy that it went in your favor.  Good luck this season.

Any ideas who these guys are?

Marvelousmar wrote:With everyone calling infranctions before they occcured the list below of the 8 byes and the 28 trying for 2 spots have been created.  Not a whole lot to complain about.  Top two teams in terms of points (no sum of the years digits method)  get in two division 1.  The next 5 bracket winners and 5 WC get into division 2 on next 10 for division 3 and remaining into division 4.  

Someone what to seed the 28 and pick the two that sneak into Division 1 and the next 10 for Division 2.  

Division 1

AFC 01G white
Andromeda 01G Blue
Frisco Fusion 01G
Infinity 01G
Liverpool 01G Keegan
Odyssey 01G
Solar Navy 01G
Texas LoneStars 01G


Playing for Placement.

AFC 01G Red
Amarillo Lightning 01G
Andromeda 01G Red
Celtic 01G
Dallas Kicks 01G Magenta
DC United 01G
DTxn 01G White North
FC Dallas 01G Blue
FC Dallas 01G Red
FC Dallas WTX 01G Ramirez
FC Flames 01G
FC Force ESS 01G
FC Storm 01G Blue
FC Storm 01G Red
FC Trinity 01G
Forney 01G
GSSC Thunder 01G
HPSA Scots 01G
Meja Williams 01G
Mustangs 01G
Mutiny 01G
On the Ball 01G
Pachuca 01G
Real Estudiantil Gold 01G
RFC Hotspurs 01G
Sting 01G Taylor
Sting Fort Worth 01G
Texas Spirit North Red 01G

On the ball is or was a McKinney rec groin that decided not to go to uk elite!

Amarillo Lightning has played in the APL the last two seasons.

bigpapa89 wrote:On the ball is or was a McKinney rec groin that decided not to go to uk elite!

Oh man.  That's a bad injury.  Or another case of the A-D-M-I-N  having his fun with substitute words.

Medic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think we got seeded fairly based on how we performed last season. So not crying here. The big question I think is it is possible that we don't give up max points to sting. (we didn't give up max points during QT so I hope that carries over) Thus keeping them in D II. Which doesn't seem quite right. I also see that possibility with AFC red's bracket as FCD Red has shown the ability to keep the score down against similar skilled teams ( looking at King tut results not Ayses) With that said I wouldn't be shocked to see what I tought to be an easy trip for the two Classic teams to Div 1 to be a little more of a tussle.

A lot depends on the brackets and how teams play.

It should be a fun weekend.

Marvelousmar wrote:With everyone calling infranctions before they occcured the list below of the 8 byes and the 28 trying for 2 spots have been created.  Not a whole lot to complain about.  Top two teams in terms of points (no sum of the years digits method)  get in two division 1.  The next 5 bracket winners and 5 WC get into division 2 on next 10 for division 3 and remaining into division 4.  

Someone what to seed the 28 and pick the two that sneak into Division 1 and the next 10 for Division 2.  

Division 1

AFC 01G white
Andromeda 01G Blue
Frisco Fusion 01G
Infinity 01G
Liverpool 01G Keegan
Odyssey 01G
Solar Navy 01G
Texas LoneStars 01G


Playing for Placement.

AFC 01G Red
Amarillo Lightning 01G
Andromeda 01G Red
Celtic 01G
Dallas Kicks 01G Magenta
DC United 01G
DTxn 01G White North
FC Dallas 01G Blue
FC Dallas 01G Red
FC Dallas WTX 01G Ramirez
FC Flames 01G
FC Force ESS 01G
FC Storm 01G Blue
FC Storm 01G Red
FC Trinity 01G
Forney 01G
GSSC Thunder 01G
HPSA Scots 01G
Meja Williams 01G
Mustangs 01G
Mutiny 01G
On the Ball 01G
Pachuca 01G
Real Estudiantil Gold 01G
RFC Hotspurs 01G
Sting 01G Taylor
Sting Fort Worth 01G
Texas Spirit North Red 01G

Surprised no one caught this yet.  Guessing this was the Kicks Black team that was advertising in June/July.  That's funny.

There appears to be no limit to goal differential or goals scored ( tie breakers #3 and #4)... which will most certainly come into play... This is going to be a rough weekend for weaker teams as the QT format pretty much sanctions murder on those poor girls..... oof.

This is not a good way to determine those two slots.