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Guess Players Again - Solar Nero - Club Pass
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Petition NTX if you want rules changed.
You've labelled your team as honest, hardworking and deserving. If you were truly the 'best team' then you'd have had the division wrapped up and this result would have been meaningless.
When somebody breaks the rules, whine about it.
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This is a clear obuse of the club pass rule as it is intended - development. When you skew the competitive advantage to one side by obusing a rule, then yes, the team, as represented by its coaches and club management is shameless. While it suits ones interest, there is compliance, but when it no longer does, the ignorance is lifted.
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And kind of surprised DM allows it (from a potential for injury standpoint)
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They've used SRSA 03 players in every game that they could whether you believe or notCmon_Man wrote:I find extremely hard to believe that the 03 players on the 02 team were used here. If so I feel pretty confident in saying it would not have been 0-0 tie.
jsullivan81 wrote:Right or wrong, they followed the rule. The didn't cheat. If you don't like it, go to Plano, Arlington, or rec.
Oh my. Very simple minded approach JS. Almost apelike
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Cmon_Man wrote:I said top 02 players...are you saying it was the top of that roster?
Actually, Here's what you said
Cmon_Man wrote:I find extremely hard to believe that the top 03 players on the 02 team were used here. If so I feel pretty confident in saying it would not have been 0-0 tie.
03 SRSA plays in the 02 (or U13) division
Call em what u want but
That's who we are talking bout
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Koba wrote:Cmon_Man wrote:I said top 02 players...are you saying it was the top of that roster?
Actually, Here's what you saidCmon_Man wrote:I find extremely hard to believe that the top 03 players on the 02 team were used here. If so I feel pretty confident in saying it would not have been 0-0 tie.
03 SRSA plays in the 02 (or U13) division
Call em what u want but
That's who we are talking bout
Thats embarrassing to say the least if they were used and only got a tie.
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Koba wrote:Cmon_Man wrote:I said top 02 players...are you saying it was the top of that roster?
Actually, Here's what you saidCmon_Man wrote:I find extremely hard to believe that the top 03 players on the 02 team were used here. If so I feel pretty confident in saying it would not have been 0-0 tie.
03 SRSA plays in the 02 (or U13) division
Call em what u want but
That's who we are talking bout
Right I know what I said and it is the same thing you are saying. I am asking if you believe the top 03 SRSA players playing in 02 guested with Nero? If you are telling me it is the top of that roster- again I find that hard to believe, based on the result of the match.
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I know they were not from Solar Royal, besides they played today. No, they where 03 players from the 02-D2 team. i never said they were the top players but they where all pretty decent players controlling the ball well with patience and making smart passes and runs. However, they can only do so much against a pretty good 03-D3 opponent, let alone limitations on the Nero squad. I think you are underestimating the quality of play at the top end of the LH D3 division.
JS, get real. I will repeat my comment once more; while it suits one's interest, there is compliance with the club pass rule, but when it starts going against you then the ignorance is lifted.
We all should want a fair environment to compete against the best teams that can qualify. Why have qualification tournaments if the teams that play are not the same that qualify?
Finally, I will borrow from an earlier silentparent post to reiterate the point that club pass should be revoked:
Post by silentparent on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:27 am
I thought about this and think it needs to go for a variety of reasons.
1. it gives an unfair advantage to big clubs
2. it violates the spirit of the game
3. it is unfair to money paying parents and kids who paid for their kids to play
4. it undermines morale on a team, go to practice work hard, and when there's an opportunity? sit on the bench so a star player from another team can fill that role?
5. teams should play with whoever they have available
6. with teams putting together 18 man rosters the need for a player pass player is remote
7. it is abused in relegation games, this is rampant on the boys sides
8. finally, and most importantly, it's not good for the kids and that's what this is all about..
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reccostx wrote:Cmon-man.
I know they were not from Solar Royal, besides they played today. No, they where 03 players from the 02-D2 team. i never said they were the top players but they where all pretty decent players controlling the ball well with patience and making smart passes and runs. However, they can only do so much against a pretty good 03-D3 opponent, let alone limitations on the Nero squad. I think you are underestimating the quality of play at the top end of the LH D3 division.
I never said they were not the 03 SRSA players..I only said I doubt the top players guested. But given they were not the top players, how do you know this was also not used to help develop the SRSA bottom roster players (i.e. provide needed playing time or opportunity at other positions)? Maybe they needed some development opportunities in their own age group. At the end of the day I don’t have a clue and I don't see how you could either.
If you want to complain about the player pass rule- no argument here. But instead the two Solar teams were the main focus here and who is to say they are not also using the rule for developmental reasons? I also don’t like the rule as it is currently written, but I am not in support of calling out teams playing within the rules. I also don't believe in assuming I know no developmental objectives were considered just because the rule was utilized.
And to your last point.. if you think you would have had the same result against the top 3 SRSA players (which was my original post), well I think you are overestimating top D3 03 teams
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jsullivan81 wrote:Right or wrong, they followed the rule. The didn't cheat. If you don't like it, go to Plano, Arlington, or rec.
Js your quote makes no sense. That's like saying if you don't like Obama as president move to Canada. Everyone who's daughter plays in Lake Highlands has just as much right to want the playing experience to be fair and level. Rules can and are adjusted all the time in life. Lake Highlands is no different. The time has come for this unfair rule to go away. Especially now that people are seeing how it is being abused.
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I heard that the DOC's are up in arms over the proposal being considered by Gov. Perry, and are stating that the general public would be far better served by following the protocols put in place by the experts in the field from NTSSA and LHGCL...
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You are out on a tangent. The only person saying anything about top SRSA players is you. I only said they used "3 guest players" and like Koba said, there are no bad SRSA players. Get off the top player thing alright.
You certainly are stretching the development thing as far as it will go without braking. That argument is ridiculous and reeks of alterior motives. If that is the case, their are a host of ways Solar can develop players without recking havoc on the integrity of a lower divisions regulation match play. I know, I know, "it an official rule", right........ Well, there are a lot of bad laws (rules) on the books that persons of integrity could abuse but don't. The team that qualified should be the team that plays - period.
Solar is abusing the system and that is shameful.
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