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Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Flatback4 16/02/14, 02:52 pm
How are the Rolling Hills Field Conditions?
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by MoveYourFeet 17/02/14, 10:13 am
I sent somebody over there on Saturday to check them out. They haven't made it back yet.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Gunners 17/02/14, 10:51 am
Not terrible, but not great either.
I'm curious where exactly the out of town teams are being lodged. Not much in the way of nice hotels in the area. For that matter not much in the way of nice anything in the area.
Although there did seem to be a big nice hotel looking facility right next to the fields. The high barbed wire fence made me wonder what kind of hotel it was, though.
I'm curious where exactly the out of town teams are being lodged. Not much in the way of nice hotels in the area. For that matter not much in the way of nice anything in the area.
Although there did seem to be a big nice hotel looking facility right next to the fields. The high barbed wire fence made me wonder what kind of hotel it was, though.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Noob 17/02/14, 02:33 pm
I was told there would be a lot of coaches checking out the game, but I only saw a couple of Fort Worth United coaches and the Stampede Manager at the fence line. sort of disappointing...
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by MoveYourFeet 17/02/14, 03:02 pm
Noob wrote:I was told there would be a lot of coaches checking out the game, but I only saw a couple of Fort Worth United coaches and the Stampede Manager at the fence line. sort of disappointing...
Huh?
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Slakemoth 17/02/14, 04:00 pm
Noob wrote:I was told there would be a lot of coaches checking out the game, but I only saw a couple of Fort Worth United coaches and the Stampede Manager at the fence line. sort of disappointing...
That actually made me choke on my coffee...
Well crafted my friend... +10 points
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by golgolgol 17/02/14, 06:05 pm
Noob wrote:I was told there would be a lot of coaches checking out the game, but I only saw a couple of Fort Worth United coaches and the Stampede Manager at the fence line. sort of disappointing...
LOL! Good one!
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by soccersounder 18/02/14, 10:47 am
The answer to the question is that the fields are not in good shape. I almost guarantee ECNL will not come back to DFW next year...
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by outonthelimb 18/02/14, 01:52 pm
Hindsight is 20-20 but couldn't Sting have just rented out the old Andromeda fields or Craig Ranch or something? Hmmm, does Vola own the Rolling Hills Complex? I'm working under the assumption that Sting is the host of this year's event....could be wrong though.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Gunners 18/02/14, 02:35 pm
Rolling Hills is a City of Ft Worth facility.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by ballhead 18/02/14, 02:46 pm
outonthelimb wrote:Hindsight is 20-20 but couldn't Sting have just rented out the old Andromeda fields or Craig Ranch or something? Hmmm, does Vola own the Rolling Hills Complex? I'm working under the assumption that Sting is the host of this year's event....could be wrong though.
There isn't a "club" host of the Texas event. I don't think there is in any of them, save the PDA event. The league makes the arrangements for the venue, or at least they did in the past.
The Texas event was in San Antonio for a couple of years, then moved it to Frisco. My understanding from the league was that they recognized that, with 5 clubs in NTX, there was a benefit to having the event in NTX, saving a significant amount of travel to San Antonio.
The first year it was in Frisco, the venue costs were expected to be around $30K over what they paid in San Antonio, so all the DFW teams paid an additional $1,000 to help subsidize the event costs. Obviously, each team would have spent far more than 1K to spend 3 or 4 nights in SA, so it was still a good deal.
Last year, I was told that they loved the complex, but that the organization was not the easiest to work with, and there were other costs and issues that they normally wouldn't have to deal with.
I assume that is why it moved to Rolling Hills, and if that doesn't turn out well, I wouldn't be surprised to see it go back to South Texas for a while.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Pinnochio 18/02/14, 03:47 pm
soccersounder wrote:The answer to the question is that the fields are not in good shape. I almost guarantee ECNL will not come back to DFW next year...
+1
Word is that Ecnl was going to return to Frisco and had an agreement in place to waive the parking fees. When that agreement fell thru, Ecnl moved to Rolling Hills. They will regret that decision. Nothing around that location for food, hotels or anything fun for out of towners to enjoy. Plus the fields are awful.
After a weekend down there, every single person that attends will gladly pay the parking fee at PHP next time.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Guest 18/02/14, 04:28 pm
Not knowing the particulars, that seems a bit shortsighted by FC Dallas/City of Frisco to not get a deal done for an event like that. That a LOT of local hotel and restaurant revenue out the window. You'd think the local clubs and/or ECNL could leverage the local Chambers of Commerce to help get a favorable deal done for all.
By my count, 120 out of town teams * 20 players/team on average + coaches, parents, chaperones, college coaches, etc... Probably close to 3000 people traveling in. 1000-1500 hotel rooms for 2-3 nights at $100/room. Easily $500,000+ in hotel/restaurant/concession revenue out the window in Frisco. Hmmm...
By my count, 120 out of town teams * 20 players/team on average + coaches, parents, chaperones, college coaches, etc... Probably close to 3000 people traveling in. 1000-1500 hotel rooms for 2-3 nights at $100/room. Easily $500,000+ in hotel/restaurant/concession revenue out the window in Frisco. Hmmm...
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by twotone 19/02/14, 12:47 am
I've heard the exact opposite, that the deal was on the table waiting for ECNL to sign and it collected dust for almost 3 months. deal included help from City of Frisco. speculation is that ECNL was searching for other field locations the whole time and got a sweetheart deal from FTW and accepted site (sight) unseen. huge dropoff from playing at Frisco fields to open pastures, but i guess ECNL can stack the $$$ after saving on field costs.
Also heard that it wasn't FCD that was "difficult" to work with, it was ECNL, specifically the tourney director. Example was that tent locations were mapped out ahead of time (as most complexes or parks would do) and a no staking policy was in place on grass. a FCD bigwig walked up right at the time a 4-foot steel stake was being sledge-hammered right on top of a marked gas line near the concession area. Hope that's the case cuz there probably wouldn't be anymore FCD fields to play on if that stake had been placed.... guess there's 2 sides to every story. I wouldn't want any tourney back if they weren't going to pay attention to park rules and just flat-out ignore them. I can remember being yelled at for trying to put a 6-inch tent stake into the grass out there, let alone a 4-foot stake.
Also heard that it wasn't FCD that was "difficult" to work with, it was ECNL, specifically the tourney director. Example was that tent locations were mapped out ahead of time (as most complexes or parks would do) and a no staking policy was in place on grass. a FCD bigwig walked up right at the time a 4-foot steel stake was being sledge-hammered right on top of a marked gas line near the concession area. Hope that's the case cuz there probably wouldn't be anymore FCD fields to play on if that stake had been placed.... guess there's 2 sides to every story. I wouldn't want any tourney back if they weren't going to pay attention to park rules and just flat-out ignore them. I can remember being yelled at for trying to put a 6-inch tent stake into the grass out there, let alone a 4-foot stake.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by twotone 19/02/14, 12:49 am
clarification, it might've been a stake driven on the turf field near the concession stand as opposed to the grass. either way, poor form to drive stakes over gas mains or thru expensive artificial turf fields.
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ECNL Schedule?
by girlzplay 19/02/14, 09:34 am
Am I understanding this? ECNL will be in Fort Worth this week? Can someone give me a link to game schedule, date, fields and times? I would like to take my DD out to watch some games.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Gunners 19/02/14, 09:48 am
http://eliteclubsnationalleague.com/schedule/13-14TX/index_E.html
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by MoveYourFeet 19/02/14, 09:49 am
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/schedules/62561624/all.html
Scroll down to Friday, Feb. 21 and you can see a list of the games for the weekend.
Scroll down to Friday, Feb. 21 and you can see a list of the games for the weekend.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Pinnochio 19/02/14, 10:43 am
twotone wrote:I've heard the exact opposite, that the deal was on the table waiting for ECNL to sign and it collected dust for almost 3 months. deal included help from City of Frisco. speculation is that ECNL was searching for other field locations the whole time and got a sweetheart deal from FTW and accepted site (sight) unseen. huge dropoff from playing at Frisco fields to open pastures, but i guess ECNL can stack the $$$ after saving on field costs.
Also heard that it wasn't FCD that was "difficult" to work with, it was ECNL, specifically the tourney director. Example was that tent locations were mapped out ahead of time (as most complexes or parks would do) and a no staking policy was in place on grass. a FCD bigwig walked up right at the time a 4-foot steel stake was being sledge-hammered right on top of a marked gas line near the concession area. Hope that's the case cuz there probably wouldn't be anymore FCD fields to play on if that stake had been placed.... guess there's 2 sides to every story. I wouldn't want any tourney back if they weren't going to pay attention to park rules and just flat-out ignore them. I can remember being yelled at for trying to put a 6-inch tent stake into the grass out there, let alone a 4-foot stake.
Good point as there are always two sides to every story. Not really placing any blame on FCD or the City. Ecnl made a boneheaded decision in an attempt to save some money and it will reflect very poorly on them this weekend.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by Zizou 19/02/14, 11:14 am
This can't be the same FCD , Frisco that could not work a deal with the Dallas Cup.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by PreWrap 20/02/14, 08:40 am
My daughter plays for TSC Hurricane and we were just at Rolling Hills last Sunday to play Sting. I was absolutely stunned when we drove up. My first thought was there was no way the ECNL had seen this complex when they agreed to use it for a National Event. Unbelievable.
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by keep22 20/02/14, 10:15 am
Rolling what in Tar Hills is ECNL ? Elite Cowpasture Natural Lawns...cow? c.o.w. E I E I O...dag naaabbit!
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Re: Rolling Hills Field Conditions
by MoveYourFeet 20/02/14, 10:32 am
Always so proud when our city puts its ugliest foot forward.
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