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Post by 04_Goalkeeper 30/06/14, 11:36 am

Add your team's name to this thread if your team is playing the NTX Seeding Showdown. Please, no other comments.  Wink

Thanks.

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Post by loyalsoccermom 01/07/14, 12:47 pm

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Post by 04_Goalkeeper 02/07/14, 03:25 pm

So, since there's only been one team post to this thread after about 800 views, does this mean that noone is playing this tournament or that noone wants to "advertise" that they're playing this tournament? What gives?

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Post by Guest 02/07/14, 03:40 pm

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Post by Guest 02/07/14, 07:39 pm

LP Redknapp is going to play in NTX Showdown. Some teams are doing neither, some both.

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 10:25 am

King TuT: 23 and counting... king 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=35200&showall=TRUE

Puma Cup: 1 and counting... Sad 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=39314&showall=TRUE

Seeding Showdown:  What's the big secret NTSSA Question  Question  Question   scratch  Suspect 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=39051&showall=TRUE

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 01:17 pm

can only register for NTX tournament through got soccer and cant do that until the players have all registered with their home associations and new select rosters.  that's what I'm told anyway.  so that could explain the delay.
tut also showing only 6 accepted teams?

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 01:37 pm

Jules Rimet wrote:can only register for NTX tournament through got soccer and cant do that until the players have all registered with their home associations and new select rosters.  that's what I'm told anyway.  so that could explain the delay.
tut also showing only 6 accepted teams?

That has nothing to do with NTSSA not sharing the applied teams list on GotSoccer. That's usually a conscious decision by the TD. So either the TD isn't aware, or doesn't want to share the list for some reason. For all we know, there could be 20+ teams already applied for NTX Showdown as well, but why not share the list?

No difference in signing up for TuT or Puma Cup vs. Seeding Showdown. Most teams don't sign up for TuT until after they've got their team registered with NTSSA and GotSoccer profile updated.

The 6 accepted teams at this point means nothing. 90%+ of the teams on the applied list will end up in the tournament. TuT looks to be on track with previous years, which ended up with ~40 U11 teams entered.

The biggest surprise to me is only 1 team signed up for Puma Cup at this point. Usually Puma Cup will attract a pretty good number of teams from the West side of the Metroplex.

If I'm looking at signing up my team for a tournament where I will get good handle on where my team stands heading into QT, I can look at the King TuT list and see the current FBR # 3, 4, 7, 11, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22, 23, 25, 30, & 32 teams already applied, or tournament with 1 team, or a tournament that has ??? signed up. So personally, I think it's a bad move for the Showdown to not be making their applied teams list public at this point.

I'd be shocked if more than 1 or 2 of the teams currently signed up for King TuT, are planning to sign up for the seeding showdown as well, and set their teams up to play 3-4 games on 3-4 straight weekends in July/August.

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 01:51 pm

Even 3 weekends in a row without time to make team adjustments or have 4+ additional training sessions, a weekend of scrimmages, etc. in before QT seems strange regarding Tut timing.  Things go poorly in tut you could only just hope for the best come QT when making changes.  Just my point of view.

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 03:10 pm

Jules Rimet wrote:Even 3 weekends in a row without time to make team adjustments or have 4+ additional training sessions, a weekend of scrimmages, etc. in before QT seems strange regarding Tut timing.  Things go poorly in tut you could only just hope for the best come QT when making changes.  Just my point of view.

I won't disagree with you there.  When my '01 went through QT, TuT was 2 weekends before QT, and Puma Cup was the weekend before QT.  We played in TuT, and having that weekend off between TuT and QT was nice.

If memory serves me correct, in the 3 years since then, TuT and Puma Cup have been the same weekend, and have been the weekend directly before the start of QT.

So I would think that there would be teams attracted to playing in the Showdown specifically to have the extra week of rest before the QT, but TuT certainly still seems to be attracting a large number of quality teams.  It will be interesting to see if they still get close to the 40 or so U11 girls teams that they've had the past couple of years, or if the Showdown poaches a significant number.

Going beyond this year, it will also be interesting to see if there is a noticeable perceived difference in the QT seeding for teams that play in Showdown vs TuT/Puma Cup.*

*(Not that it really matters, and as I've argued many times on this forum, choosing a tournament based on trying to manipulate your team's QT seed is a waste of valuable time and energy).

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Post by Guest 03/07/14, 06:59 pm

King TuT: 31 and counting... king 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=35200&showall=TRUE

Puma Cup: 1 and counting... Sad 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=39314&showall=TRUE

Seeding Showdown:  What's the big secret NTSSA Question  Question  Question   scratch  Suspect 
http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?eventid=39051&showall=TRUE


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Post by SwitchDaField 03/07/14, 09:41 pm

Looks who's trying to play up in U12 - TX Spirit 04 Clark. I guess they're trying to hold on to that #1 spot for real..

 lol!

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Post by DTWhite03G 03/07/14, 11:56 pm

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:Looks who's trying to play up in U12 - TX Spirit 04 Clark. I guess they're trying to hold on to that #1 spot for real..

 lol!

The registration process on that site was less than stellar. If you look closely there are few teams that had troubles getting their registration right. They will get it all straightened out before the teams are accepted.

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Post by 10sDad 04/07/14, 09:59 am

Could it be a result of King TuT allowing "guess" players? Since the all important seeding for QT is determined by these tournaments...could clubs be trying to game the system with guests? The seeding showdown allows no guests...so the teams entered will be the actual teams entering QT. Just a thought...
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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 10:03 am

Same thing happens evey year with the accepted teams list for King Tut. Are we U10's still? U11's? The lists will be somewhat muddled until closer to time and everyone completes the registration process with their home associations.

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Post by 10sDad 04/07/14, 10:07 am

As of July 1, the '04s are now U-11. Now Select, and no longer academy.
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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 11:16 am

10sDad wrote:As of July 1, the '04s are now U-11.  Now Select, and no longer academy.

Correct, but one of the reason many of the age groups are mixed together in the applied list when it initially comes out is because GotSoccer hasn't flipped them yet. Some teams that register immediately already show in the appropriate age group. Looks like they flipped it last night, so everyone should be showing up correctly now.

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Post by SolarPower00 04/07/14, 11:22 am

King Tut applied list looks much better today
Everybody appears to be in the right place
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Post by wittymgr 04/07/14, 01:08 pm

thatwasweird wrote:
10sDad wrote:As of July 1, the '04s are now U-11.  Now Select, and no longer academy.

Correct, but one of the reason many of the age groups are mixed together in the applied list when it initially comes out is because GotSoccer hasn't flipped them yet.  Some teams that register immediately already show in the appropriate age group.  Looks like they flipped it last night, so everyone should be showing up correctly now.  
Technically not correct. 04 teams that show up as U-11 before August 1st were "manually aged-up" by their coach or manager. They will find themselves in U-12 once August 1st rolls around and GotSoccer automatically ages them up a year. This is a pain every year as anxious managers try to "fix" their GotSoccer accounts.

Of course, practically speaking they are U-11 after signing on July 1 but according to USYS and NTX SSA they are still U-10 during the month of July.
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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 01:33 pm

wittymgr wrote:
thatwasweird wrote:
10sDad wrote:As of July 1, the '04s are now U-11.  Now Select, and no longer academy.

Correct, but one of the reason many of the age groups are mixed together in the applied list when it initially comes out is because GotSoccer hasn't flipped them yet.  Some teams that register immediately already show in the appropriate age group.  Looks like they flipped it last night, so everyone should be showing up correctly now.  
Technically not correct. 04 teams that show up as U-11 before August 1st were "manually aged-up" by their coach or manager. They will find themselves in U-12 once August 1st rolls around and GotSoccer automatically ages them up a year. This is a pain every year as anxious managers try to "fix" their GotSoccer accounts.

Of course, practically speaking they are U-11 after signing on July 1 but according to USYS and NTX SSA they are still U-10 during the month of July.

Yes - '04s are technically U10 until August first.  When LHGCL QT has its first week of qualifying in July, it will label the group U10.  When the second weekend of the QT is in August, they label the same group (or what is still left in the QT) as U11.

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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 03:01 pm

No FCD Central teams in KingTuT yet... Suspect 

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Post by SD69 04/07/14, 03:04 pm

No LP teams in yet either.
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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 03:16 pm

soccerdad1969 wrote:No LP teams in yet either.

True, but what club is the host for King TuT???

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Post by Guest 04/07/14, 03:20 pm

bwgophers wrote:
soccerdad1969 wrote:No LP teams in yet either.

True, but what club is the host for King TuT???

...and LP Carragher is there now, just in the wrong age group for now.

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Post by tigerdad 05/07/14, 09:29 am

36 in King Tut (believe the Eclipse team from Mesquite to be an 03 team in the wrong bracket).  How do they normally seed this as a 4-game friendly?  Similar to QT or more like a traditional tournament with Gold, Silver, Bronze groups?
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