Re: Academy Bar-Hopping?

by USA203 09/03/12, 03:36 pm

As long as you know the loyalty is a one way street. If your DD stops contributing or he finds someone better she loses playtime. Also, the other parents aren't going to be loyal to you. If they find a better opportunity they are gone, same with the coach. Your loyalty should be 100% to your DD, not the club, coach, team, or other parents.

Yup, I know. And I've seen some things happen to various friends. But if she changes teams it would be the same way on that other team. If she's a decent player and wants to play hard, there will be a team out there for her somewhere but I'm not looking for "making D1" or a specific high goal like that so it may be different for me/us. If things change and she goes back to rec, that's fine too. Just no cheerleading!!!

by FriscoSoccer2004 09/03/12, 03:46 pm

USA203 wrote:
As long as you know the loyalty is a one way street. If your DD stops contributing or he finds someone better she loses playtime. Also, the other parents aren't going to be loyal to you. If they find a better opportunity they are gone, same with the coach. Your loyalty should be 100% to your DD, not the club, coach, team, or other parents.

Yup, I know. And I've seen some things happen to various friends. But if she changes teams it would be the same way on that other team. If she's a decent player and wants to play hard, there will be a team out there for her somewhere but I'm not looking for "making D1" or a specific high goal like that so it may be different for me/us. If things change and she goes back to rec, that's fine too. Just no cheerleading!!!

Let's leave cheerleading out of this! Mcik17 has been there and back with the cheer thing and on a bright side the moms were hotter than the solar moms... and the events were inside and the winners got trophies. So apparently they kept score, which makes no sense now that I think about it... We keep score for cheerleaders but no score for SDL Soccer?

Speaking of Bar Hopping, I think it is happy hour! drunken

by USA203 09/03/12, 03:48 pm

We stayed with her first team way too long because it was a "top" team.

MommaBear--would you mind explaining this a little more as to your own experience? Sometimes we see people post here that its better to play with a top team at Academy level because of the great practice, challenge, etc, and others say otherwise. Just curious!

by USA203 09/03/12, 03:52 pm

on a bright side the moms were hotter than the solar moms...

Hmm, some of us might see that as a downside. All I know is I'M staying away from Solar now that I know their reputation because I want to continue to show up to practice in my old ratty sweatshirt, no make up, house slippers and curlers and not feel too out of place on the sideline Smile

Have a good happy hour (or two).

by Guest 09/03/12, 05:05 pm

USA203 wrote:
We stayed with her first team way too long because it was a "top" team.

MommaBear--would you mind explaining this a little more as to your own experience? Sometimes we see people post here that its better to play with a top team at Academy level because of the great practice, challenge, etc, and others say otherwise. Just curious!

This was OUR experience...it is different for everyone. My dd played on a very good team but starting in her 4th season with them and then continuing to her 5th, we noticed her confidence waning. She started being nervous and then made mistakes because she was afraid of making a mistake (if you know what I mean). The fun had gone out of it and it was like a job to her. Some kids handle the pressure just fine but being on a top five team can...for some... have so much expectations and pressure that they just don't enjoy it anymore. She was expected to be perfect and well, she's not, she is 10. She is sort of a sensitive soul and couldn't stand it when she was yelled at or pulled out for making a mistake. Some kids just let it roll off her back...not her. So we left and found a coach that could give the type of motivation that worked for her personality. Positive reinforcement and calm instruction. We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride. But she is on track now and with a good team that she had been able to contribute to and feel very good about herself and what she has accomplished. I have tremendous respect for the coach at her old team, he taught her a lot and has done amazing things with his girls but it was time for a change or I think she would have ended up quitting a game that she loves.

by Old Timer 09/03/12, 05:14 pm

mommabear wrote:
USA203 wrote:
We stayed with her first team way too long because it was a "top" team.

MommaBear--would you mind explaining this a little more as to your own experience? Sometimes we see people post here that its better to play with a top team at Academy level because of the great practice, challenge, etc, and others say otherwise. Just curious!

This was OUR experience...it is different for everyone. My dd played on a very good team but starting in her 4th season with them and then continuing to her 5th, we noticed her confidence waning. She started being nervous and then made mistakes because she was afraid of making a mistake (if you know what I mean). The fun had gone out of it and it was like a job to her. Some kids handle the pressure just fine but being on a top five team can...for some... have so much expectations and pressure that they just don't enjoy it anymore. She was expected to be perfect and well, she's not, she is 10. She is sort of a sensitive soul and couldn't stand it when she was yelled at or pulled out for making a mistake. Some kids just let it roll off her back...not her. So we left and found a coach that could give the type of motivation that worked for her personality. Positive reinforcement and calm instruction. We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride. But she is on track now and with a good team that she had been able to contribute to and feel very good about herself and what she has accomplished. I have tremendous respect for the coach at her old team, he taught her a lot and has done amazing things with his girls but it was time for a change or I think she would have ended up quitting a game that she loves.

Your DD is fortunate that you have figured things out early.

Coaches are about the team first and foremost, and the players only to the degree that they benefit the team. There is nothing inherently wrong with that unless the coach trys to tell you otherwise. The good ones will be honest.

by Bierluva 09/03/12, 07:40 pm

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:

Speaking of Bar Hopping, I think it is happy hour!

Did somebody say happy hour?!

Academy Bar-Hopping? - Page 2 Munich-girls-oktoberfest-2010

by Guest 09/03/12, 07:50 pm

Those are some nice beer jugs.. I mean mugs. Cool

by FriscoSoccer2004 09/03/12, 07:56 pm

Wow, serious beer drinking there!

by Bierluva 09/03/12, 07:58 pm

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:Wow, serious beer drinking there!

Seriously planning on hitting Oktoberfest in Bavaria... it is on my bucket list. Hmmm... select fees or trip to Germany for Oktoberfest... hard decision... Razz

by Guest 09/03/12, 08:08 pm

Bierluva wrote:
FriscoSoccer05 wrote:Wow, serious beer drinking there!

Seriously planning on hitting Oktoberfest in Bavaria... it is on my bucket list. Hmmm... select fees or trip to Germany for Oktoberfest... hard decision...

Just as your coach to find a tournament in Germany. Problem solved.

by Bierluva 09/03/12, 08:09 pm

mommabear wrote:
Bierluva wrote:
FriscoSoccer05 wrote:Wow, serious beer drinking there!

Seriously planning on hitting Oktoberfest in Bavaria... it is on my bucket list. Hmmm... select fees or trip to Germany for Oktoberfest... hard decision...

Just as your coach to find a tournament in Germany. Problem solved.

You are my new friend... I like the way you think. Now to find tourneys at the end of September/beginning of October...

by USA203 09/03/12, 08:23 pm

This was OUR experience...it is different for everyone. My dd played on a very good team but starting in her 4th season with them and then continuing to her 5th, we noticed her confidence waning. She started being nervous and then made mistakes because she was afraid of making a mistake (if you know what I mean). The fun had gone out of it and it was like a job to her. Some kids handle the pressure just fine but being on a top five team can...for some... have so much expectations and pressure that they just don't enjoy it anymore. She was expected to be perfect and well, she's not, she is 10. She is sort of a sensitive soul and couldn't stand it when she was yelled at or pulled out for making a mistake. Some kids just let it roll off her back...not her. So we left and found a coach that could give the type of motivation that worked for her personality. Positive reinforcement and calm instruction. We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride. But she is on track now and with a good team that she had been able to contribute to and feel very good about herself and what she has accomplished. I have tremendous respect for the coach at her old team, he taught her a lot and has done amazing things with his girls but it was time for a change or I think she would have ended up quitting a game that she loves.

Wow, thanks for explaining. I appreciate this. I have a perfectionist, who is doing okay right now but I watch for the anxiety. "We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride"--but you did listen (eventually) and were an advocate for your dd, you rock "MamaBear"!

As for all you beer people, I got nothin' I hate beer. Wine, though, that's another matter, straight from the ole' box.

by FriscoSoccer2004 09/03/12, 08:30 pm

USA203 wrote:
This was OUR experience...it is different for everyone. My dd played on a very good team but starting in her 4th season with them and then continuing to her 5th, we noticed her confidence waning. She started being nervous and then made mistakes because she was afraid of making a mistake (if you know what I mean). The fun had gone out of it and it was like a job to her. Some kids handle the pressure just fine but being on a top five team can...for some... have so much expectations and pressure that they just don't enjoy it anymore. She was expected to be perfect and well, she's not, she is 10. She is sort of a sensitive soul and couldn't stand it when she was yelled at or pulled out for making a mistake. Some kids just let it roll off her back...not her. So we left and found a coach that could give the type of motivation that worked for her personality. Positive reinforcement and calm instruction. We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride. But she is on track now and with a good team that she had been able to contribute to and feel very good about herself and what she has accomplished. I have tremendous respect for the coach at her old team, he taught her a lot and has done amazing things with his girls but it was time for a change or I think she would have ended up quitting a game that she loves.

Wow, thanks for explaining. I appreciate this. I have a perfectionist, who is doing okay right now but I watch for the anxiety. "We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride"--but you did listen (eventually) and were an advocate for your dd, you rock "MamaBear"!

As for all you beer people, I got nothin' I hate beer. Wine, though, that's another matter, straight from the ole' box.

Box? Really?

by FriscoSoccer2004 09/03/12, 08:33 pm

Meiomi Pinot Noir

by Bierluva 09/03/12, 09:16 pm

I am partial to Fat Bastard Merlot... Smile

Also... Taylor Fladgate 20 yr Port.

by Guest 10/03/12, 06:52 am

FriscoSoccer05 wrote:Meiomi Pinot Noir

fav

by USA203 10/03/12, 10:21 am

Box? Really?

Spent all my money on soccer.

by EyesWideOpen 10/03/12, 11:02 am

USA203 wrote:
Box? Really?

Spent all my money on soccer.

by coachr 10/03/12, 11:33 am

USA203 wrote:
This was OUR experience...it is different for everyone. My dd played on a very good team but starting in her 4th season with them and then continuing to her 5th, we noticed her confidence waning. She started being nervous and then made mistakes because she was afraid of making a mistake (if you know what I mean). The fun had gone out of it and it was like a job to her. Some kids handle the pressure just fine but being on a top five team can...for some... have so much expectations and pressure that they just don't enjoy it anymore. She was expected to be perfect and well, she's not, she is 10. She is sort of a sensitive soul and couldn't stand it when she was yelled at or pulled out for making a mistake. Some kids just let it roll off her back...not her. So we left and found a coach that could give the type of motivation that worked for her personality. Positive reinforcement and calm instruction. We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride. But she is on track now and with a good team that she had been able to contribute to and feel very good about herself and what she has accomplished. I have tremendous respect for the coach at her old team, he taught her a lot and has done amazing things with his girls but it was time for a change or I think she would have ended up quitting a game that she loves.

Wow, thanks for explaining. I appreciate this. I have a perfectionist, who is doing okay right now but I watch for the anxiety. "We should have left after the 4th season but we liked saying our daughter played for so and so... unfortunately our daughter paid the price for our pride"--but you did listen (eventually) and were an advocate for your dd, you rock "MamaBear"!

As for all you beer people, I got nothin' I hate beer. Wine, though, that's another matter, straight from the ole' box.

That's ok if you hate beer. We open our arms to the GLBT community. Society has treated you wrong for too long.
As the poets Michael Diamond, Adam Yauch, Adam Horovitz and Michael Schwartz would say " you like men and we like beer".

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