D1, dual rostering

What teams/clubs will have D1 teams they can dual roster? How many teams per club? How does the 75% rule for Lake Highlands apply to the D1 teams, especially with many girls moving to play ECNL thus changing the teams rosters?

Look under the thread "advancement" in the 00's. This question came up over there, and I was assured that teams weren't interested in doing this when they hit ECNL status...but I am a little wary when it comes to clubs giving up byes...

On another note, is el nina correct?? In my limited Spanish, there seems to be some cross-dressing there (to each his or her own). lol

Hi Dad, el nina is a mixed signal for sure. La Nina - not so much. (unless said poster is an AC/DC fan)

As to dual rostering. Individual players can be dual rostered, but not a whole team, unless that whole team becomes a training base for future ECNL players. Here is a link to the ECNL handbook so that you can see what their rules are.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/docs/0-2-0_ECNL%20Club%20Memo_v7.pdf

Guess my spanish needs some help! LOL. Appreciate the info. It all gets confusing. So sounds like it would be a wise decision to try out for encl clubs that will have D1 teams you can roster if a parent feels their child might be on the bubble and/or wants to be on a developmental team. Will all the clubs have a D1 team to dual roster? Example, Solar had a D2 team that will likely be promoted but what if many of their players leave for ECNL or other clubs, will they have a team? How about Feet? FC Dallas and Texans? I know it won't be a problem for Sting. I am new to this so it is confusing...

OK, first, a team won't dual roster, players can dual roster on a club ECNL team and an LH Team however. Each club has ONE ECNL team per age group. As each age group advances, a new age group ECNL team is created for the next year. Next year it will the the 01 group. Now that being said, there are opportunities for girls to move to or play for an ECNL team at any time. For any given ECNL event, they can roster a total of 18 players. This could be the same roster event to event, OR, the roster can change depending on the coach and team.

Right now (and things can still change since there are a lot of games left to be played). Here is the current scenario.

Teams moving out of Division 1 to ECNL at end of season
Solar Red
Dallas Texans 00G
FC Dallas Girls
Either Sting Medina or Sting Rezaie depending on final positioning and the Sting gods
D’Feeters Shaw


Those staying and moving into D1
Liverpool America Girls Elite - returning
Sting Rezaie or Sting Medina – returning (depending on the rest of the season, Rezaie and Medina could swap places)
Sting West Richardson - returning
Sting West Harr – returning
Solar Canevari – advances from DII
Andromeda – advances from DII
Sting North Garrett – advances from DII
Possible advancements from DII – too close to make a decision – Two will go
Lady Aztecs
FC Dallas Blue
Mustangs Bussey
Sting Parker


DII
Two of these will stay in DII - Lady Aztecs, FC Dallas Blue, Mustangs Bussey or Sting Central Parker
FC Dallas East - returning
FC Dallas Youth Premier - returning
Dallas Texans Red – returning
D’Feeters Patulea – moves up
Solar Gold – moves up

The additional three advancements are hard to call at this point. Mustangs Navy, Sting Ferretti, Sting West, Meja Martinez North, and Dallas Texans North are all close in points after the first few games. It is still a waiting game on who advances to DII out of this group.


As you can see, there are still a lot of ifs sitting out in LH land at the moment. Hope this helps and doesn't muddy things more.

InaB wrote:OK, first, a team won't dual roster, players can dual roster on a club ECNL team and an LH Team however. Each club has ONE ECNL team per age group. As each age group advances, a new age group ECNL team is created for the next year. Next year it will the the 01 group. Now that being said, there are opportunities for girls to move to or play for an ECNL team at any time. For any given ECNL event, they can roster a total of 18 players. This could be the same roster event to event, OR, the roster can change depending on the coach and team.

Right now (and things can still change since there are a lot of games left to be played). Here is the current scenario.

Teams moving out of Division 1 to ECNL at end of season
Solar Red
Dallas Texans 00G
FC Dallas Girls
Either Sting Medina or Sting Rezaie depending on final positioning and the Sting gods
D’Feeters Shaw


Those staying and moving into D1
Liverpool America Girls Elite - returning
Sting Rezaie or Sting Medina – returning (depending on the rest of the season, Rezaie and Medina could swap places)
Sting West Richardson - returning
Sting West Harr – returning
Solar Canevari – advances from DII
Andromeda – advances from DII
Sting North Garrett – advances from DII
Possible advancements from DII – too close to make a decision – Two will go
Lady Aztecs
FC Dallas Blue
Mustangs Bussey
Sting Parker


DII
Two of these will stay in DII - Lady Aztecs, FC Dallas Blue, Mustangs Bussey or Sting Central Parker
FC Dallas East - returning
FC Dallas Youth Premier - returning
Dallas Texans Red – returning
D’Feeters Patulea – moves up
Solar Gold – moves up

The additional three advancements are hard to call at this point. Mustangs Navy, Sting Ferretti, Sting West, Meja Martinez North, and Dallas Texans North are all close in points after the first few games. It is still a waiting game on who advances to DII out of this group.


As you can see, there are still a lot of ifs sitting out in LH land at the moment. Hope this helps and doesn't muddy things more.

Agreed...all of those advance...and possibly more if a team breaks up etc...It appears to me that the DD swapping will begin in earnest at the end of the LH season during the spring tournaments, but the silent posturing and backstabbing commences immediately!

Is that clear as mud?

Most definitely clear Dad. Things are still very unsettled and will become more so by June. We won't know how things will wind up until it smacks in the mouth. At this point, except for a few very solidly placed teams, everything else is a crap shoot. Even if your dd isn't pulled to be part of the ECNL pool to begin the season, doesn't mean that she won't be during the year. And players can be pulled from any team within a club (and possible from outside the club). When all is said and done, if your club D1 team does not have a full roster this year, then they will definitely be hunting for additional top players to fill those gaps. Then they will look at rostering additional players. They could even mix it up and decide to replace some of their existing players with new ones. Players could take themselves out of the mix because of financial considerations, change of heart on playing soccer (gasp), or other reasons. We won't know what we don't know until at least June. Now that definitely clears things up and answers all of my questions! NOT

I almost broke out into a rendition of "Somewhere over the Rainbow" just then.

This is more clear...so when evaluating teams/clubs these are your options:

1. Play D1. As said, some players take themselves out of the ECNL mix for different reasons. Some by choice and some not by choice. Playing D1 might provide player opportunity to get more playing time than possibly with ECNL. If so, play on any of the teams mentioned that will be D1 or potentially be in D1. The for sure teams are Sting(2 teams), LP, Andromeda, and Solar, In the hunt are FC, Mustangs, Aztecs. Not Texans or Feet.

2. Play D1 with team that is developmental with the possibility of also being dual rostered with an ECNL team. This would preclude Feet, Texans, possibly FC if they don't promote a team to D1. I suppose with these teams your dd could be be dual rostered to a D2 team but would a dd who has played D1 want to play D2 just to get a game in. Likely not.

3. Play on ECNL team that a player can be dual rostered to a D1 team . This can only happen with Sting, Solar and possibly FC Dallas.

4. Play on an ECNL team with no possibility of being dual rostered. You can hope your dd is one of 18 players who gets to dress up on game day rather than sit the bench. I have heard of players who hardly see the field or touch a ball on game day, how can that help their development?

There is wisdom in InaB's words-- there is more than one way to get to ECNL; U14 or after. Ways to gain access and visibility to an ECNL coach:
-Currently play on one of the top D1 teams (duh). The ECNL coaches see you every week.
-Go and show at one of the weekly ECNL pool training events (can be crowded affairs, but a release is not needed).
-Try-out/Play and Impress coach for the developmental squad-the LH team behind the ECNL team. Even if your dd doesn't make ECNL team initially, she will be playing on game day, getting visibility and a possible opportunity throughout the year if she improves, ECNL injury, etc.

el nina wrote:What teams/clubs will have D1 teams they can dual roster? How many teams per club? How does the 75% rule for Lake Highlands apply to the D1 teams, especially with many girls moving to play ECNL thus changing the teams rosters?

The two things not directly addressed above:

The 75% rule only applies to teams changing clubs. Clubs with teams leaving for ECNL lose the bye.

http://www.girlsclassicleague.org/lhgclbylawsandrules/IIIQualifyingRulesforLHGCLVer0302V13.pdf

pages 1 through 4 is most of what you need.