Movement in the 00s

It seems to me that there is more movement this year in the 00s than there was in the past 3 years combined...I have no judgement on this, just an observation.

We have seen more girls out this year than in years past...a lot of them just checking it out...I don't remember a time when 4 (by my count) LH teams folded in the same year in recent memory. It seems like it was big news when DT Red (D2) folded last year, and when LP Nicol (D3)/Hughes(PPL 1)?? folded the year before...Anyone have a thought on why this would be occuring now? They are entering HS, but I don't remember seeing as many teams looking for playersl in the 99s last year...if anything this group seems more mellow than in years past.

Anyone else have the same thought? Any conclusions?

Not sure dadof3...probably mostly to do with girls going to HS sports, other interests, etc... Only thing I can think of. However, LH has this as a contraction year. Must be common at the end of U14.

I did the age group comparison awhile back and when the 99s went from u14 to u15 they lost a total of 8 teams. Natural attrition I would assume.

00scrmom wrote:I did the age group comparison awhile back and when the 99s went from u14 to u15 they lost a total of 8 teams. Natural attrition I would assume.

Wow, 8?? Was that from PPL and ARL as well as LH??
Even established teams are looking...are there more about to fold?

Hi, I think it is a combination of factors. Teams were somewhat shielded last year by ECNL. This year we have gone back to true cuts. Those teams that were struggling last year but were able to hold on, faced a bigger struggle this year. Four teams in D3 would have to face re-qualifying which can always cause chaos.

Also, we will be one team shy in the D1 group starting this year - going from 10 to 9.

To Text's point, players are facing other choices in their lives at school. School sports, cheerleading, band, will become big pieces of many players lives and these things take up valuable real estate on the clock.

As Mom said, there is a natural contraction at about this age as well.

Add to all of this, coaching changes/movement, or coach loss entirely will also bring down a team.

I think perhaps we have had a bit more shockwave for our age group this year in how or why things are changing.

This is the same thing you see in the Boys league after the movement to the Academy teams. First year is everyone hanging on just to keep a team and then people start jockeying for the more solid teams going into high school.

Dad - yep, that was a combination of PPL and ARL teams. I looked back again and in PPL there were 5 less from u14 to u15. API changed their website so I couldn't find past seasons to compare but assume it must have been a difference of 3.

And Ina....LH D1 was at 9 this past year. They go down to 8 for U15 in LH D1.

Just curious what 4 LH teams have folded? I heard Sting West Richardson but that is it.

Ah you are right. Darn that new math method!

soccermom004 wrote:Just curious what 4 LH teams have folded?  I heard Sting West Richardson but that is it.

Sorry, I didn't intend the number 4 to be as significant as it seems when I reread it this morning. I know of 2 teams that disbanded, another that made very significant overhaul, and a couple of others that haven't announced that they are done. My intent with the question was not to stir drama, it really was just an honest question about movement, so please forgive me for that. What I probably should have said is...through reformation etc. we will see very significant changes in the leagues next year...here is my thought process.

I was counting Sting R...confirmed disband.
Solar White...confirmed disband.
FCDE (which is reformed with Genesis and some FCDE holdovers-basically losing 1 team between the two)...

I have heard from some friends here and other places that there are some others that are likely to disband or combine, but announcements haven't been public. I apologize for that. My intent wasn't to spread a rumor about any specific team folding or trying to hold it together. I just saw a lot more movement THIS year than others and thought it would be more interesting to talk about than some of the other stuff floating around.

dadof3 wrote:

soccermom004 wrote:Just curious what 4 LH teams have folded?  I heard Sting West Richardson but that is it.

Sorry, I didn't intend the number 4 to be as significant as it seems when I reread it this morning.  I know of 2 teams that disbanded, another that made very significant overhaul, and a couple of others that haven't announced that they are done.  My intent with the question was not to stir drama, it really was just an honest question about movement, so please forgive me for that.  What I probably should have said is...through reformation etc. we will see very significant changes in the leagues next year...here is my thought process.

I was counting Sting R...confirmed disband.
Solar White...confirmed disband.
FCDE (which is reformed with Genesis and some FCDE holdovers-basically losing 1 team between the two)...

I have heard from some friends here and other places that there are some others that are likely to disband or combine, but announcements haven't been public.  I apologize for that.  My intent wasn't to spread a rumor about any specific team folding or trying to hold it together.  I just saw a lot more movement THIS year than others and thought it would be more interesting to talk about than some of the other stuff floating around.

Dad,

You're fine!  Every year everyone is curious as to what's happening in the divisions. And no one wants to throw out wrong rumors. I would say validate your sources and let them sit for a day and then validate with second source and your Golden!    

Hey Dad, no worries. With the supposed combing o Missimo top players with Pulp's and the new coach taking the rest of the Missimo team and rebuilding; FCDE trying to maintain and move forward; Genesis rebounding; Sting Richardson and Solar White folding like well oiled fans. That is a lot to weed through and come out with some semblance of order.

There are others who may be standing on quick sand at the moment but we will have to wait to see if they survive June.

Hey Dad, no worries. With the supposed combining of Missimo top players with Pulp's and the new coach taking the rest of the Missimo team and rebuilding; FCDE trying to maintain and move forward; Genesis rebounding; Sting Richardson and Solar White folding like well oiled fans. That is a lot to weed through and come out with some semblance of order.

There are others who may be standing on quick sand at the moment but we will have to wait to see if they survive June.

Thanks! Sometimes the muddy water makes it difficult to count the confirmations. I truly do hope that these girls find homes...and have a successful year.

The blessing in all of this is that I have seen a ton of really nice families out to visit us, and I am sure it isn't the right place for all of them, but it is cool that I have gotten to (and plan to) meet so many people this year.

It is a lot more fun for me to watch an opponent I know make a great play and congratulate her afterward by name!

The good thing about a site like this is that it helps those parents that have no idea.  It give everyone a site to look for new players or players to look and find teams needing certain positions.  It's just an excellent resource of information.  

It can only help those looking for teams and players.

Win-Win!!!! 

From what I have seen there has been a large number of girls at tryouts. Once coaches start deciding on who is staying or going there is going to still be a lot of talented girls out there looking.

Its Me wrote:The good thing about a site like this is that it helps those parents that have no idea.  It give everyone a site to look for new players or players to look and find teams needing certain positions.  It's just an excellent resource of information.  

It can only help those looking for teams and players.

Win-Win!!!! 

It's me, I agree. Which teams are drawing the most most players (and probably have fewer spots available), and which teams are needing more players (with more open spots)?

I think it would be helpful to those girls looking for homes to know. The team with 20-odd players out, with 2 spots available, will leave several scrambling afterwards.

With some of these teams having secure spots, like Sting Richardson. Who will take their spot? I'm assuming Sting's D3 team. But then who will take that spot? I don't see Sting, or any other club giving up a Lake Highlands spot if they have another team to put in it.

onthemove wrote:With some of these teams having secure spots, like Sting Richardson.  Who will take their spot?  I'm assuming Sting's D3 team.  But then who will take that spot?  I don't see Sting, or any other club giving up a Lake Highlands spot if they have another team to put in it.

If form holds, then Sring West West would probably move into the d2 slot and then another sting team would move into the d3 spot. Bruno has a second team in PPL d2?? I think and there are others around. No, they won't give up the bye if they have an option. No club would. It is just easier to know early so that you can recruit to a "D3 team" rather than a hopeful at QT.

Wouldn’t Sting Ferretti move to D1 and Sting West move to D2?

2028 wrote:Wouldn’t Sting Ferretti move to D1 and Sting West move to   D2?

Sting Richardson was relegated to D2 this year. So Sting will have an open D2 bye, not D1.

Ohhh Yaaa! Forgot about that! LOL thanks

I think Sting West Richardson was going to get relegated to DII, hence maybe part of the reason for the team issues? So either way, you wind up with two Sting teams in DII. STING CENTRAL 00G (PARKER) and Sting West Richardson would have basically swapped places. That slot will probably go to Sting West West, who was in 3rd place in LHGCL DIII anyway. Then STING 00 (FERRETTI) is a bye on DII anyway. If Sting Bruno moves up to DIII then you have two Sting teams in DIII also, when you figure STING CENTRAL 00G ROYAL (MARTIN) has a bye.

That's a lot of Sting!

Why doesn't LHGCL adopt a rule to not allow independents or smaller clubs? Because de facto that is what they promote. It's not about the "team" it's about the club.

I'm sure someone will come on here saying that I should do something about it, but I shouldn't have to, they should - if they care about the integrity of their league.