05 LHQT bracket analysis

Yeah! And I saw 5 college coaches ready to,sign 05s to scharships today,, just shows how shallow People are to think is about money and winning. What's more amusing are the ones commenting because they ASSUME, my comments are because my kids team is getting drumbed. People like you are the problem with youth sports in America today. Keep running up those credit cards, because I am certain your kid will be in the 20% that actually still plays the game at when they go to college.

The teams getting drubbed are part of the 16 team pool that will not be making LH.
Soccerpop is there a reason other than observation you would mention said comment if you were not a parent of a team that was getting massacred.

Soccerpop, I'm confused by your posts, both of them. You seem to be blaming just about everyone for the drubbing a few teams are getting this weekend.

First, it was LH fault for having the teams play. What do you suggest they do in a qualifying tournament designed to see which are the better teams?

Then, it was the opposing coach's fault for running up the score. Are you advocating for a mercy rule? That the better team stop playing?

And now, somehow, it's the delusional parent's fault, where somehow a player's presence on a winning team means their parents are "the problem with youth sports," that they have unrealistic expectations that you can magically read from a few posts.

Sorry it's been a rough weekend!

If I looked correctly, only one team has officially punched their ticket (Sring Black). All other games come down to 1 vs 2. A couple of these match ups would be miracle on ice caliber if they went for the dogs. Any upsets brewin? Should be a fun day....

Meatlie, I have a suggestion which I think would be a better, option that would limit the drubbings, a,do if they are going to promtes and Dribble 25 thru 44 to play top 10 teams then yes put in a mercy rule. Youth baseball and football have it, i understand the competive aspect of youth sports, I officated and coached for 25 years from youth to college. So I have seen youth sports evalve it's super competitive state that has our kids having to choose a sport and commit to year round play to give our kids a chance play a game they love at the next level of that is what they want to do. I have seen kids come,out of rec at 12-13 and clubs coaches never give them a chance because they have don't have the skill because they haven't been in academy since they were 7. So yes the problem is with Leagues like LH, Parents an coaches. But it's the world we live in and way have to do it. My kid will likely burn out like 80-85% die by 18 and that's fine. But it's her decsion to play the game and she wants to play I college, so for me to give her the best chance at doing that, we have to do this. And if she wants to give it up t die point, I fine with that too.

I wonder if there were any defenders or subs scoring any of those goals. I wonder what they think about a mercy rule.

Soccerpop, you're not helping your cause here...

It was one thing when you portrayed yourself as the "first timer" who dropped 4 figures on their kid to play competitive soccer, but didn't do their homework and was caught off-guard by the first round blowouts in QT...

Now you come on here and actually tell us that you are a 25 year hardened veteran of youth sports officiating and coaching, yet you still dropped 4 figures on your kid to play competitive soccer, but didn't do your homework and were caught off-guard and appalled by the first round blow-outs in QT, then proceeded to rant about everything that is wrong in youth sports today, but then go on to say, "Aw shucks, I guess I'll just end up being one the sheep and following the herd anyway..."

Did LP Elite get upset by FC Dallas this morning?

Wow. What a shocker.

Black Sheep...where are you? Come out, come out wherever you are...

What is the biggest upset so far?

That is shocker! Gotta love a good upset.
BTW, Why do coaches keep tired legs in when it's 100 degrees out? I watched the game bf us with overly exhausted girls who could hardly stand practically dying out there with the coach yelling at them for not playing hard enough. I don't get it. Why not sub and let them cool off? Wouldn't you get more from them.

Scarfone just took out Rush too.

Begophers you said that you wouldn't be surprised by your gut if one or either of scarfone and FC Dallas north wouldn't make it? Both are now in? Do you think you need to change your picks? How is the fbr fairing this weekend?

Bwgopher sorry not begophers?

Bwgophers

Have no problem with the "running up" of the score. Tell my DD that if she doesn't like it then play better and use the information and techniques that the coaches give her. We got pummeled first game, but got better at the end.

What happened to that LP Elite team? Definitely not the team they were 6 months to a year ago IMO.

Two of the top 6 are playing next weekend? That is amazing.

11 of 12 brackets are set. One more to go.

Well, FBR, and my gut, were both clearly wrong.  I am not just surprised that both of those teams made D1, I am flat out shocked that both of them won their brackets in week 1.  Both of those games would qualify as the biggest seeding upsets in week 1 of the QT, going all the way back to the '00's.

How is FBR doing this weekend overall?  Well, those 2 "upsets" included, if FWFC wins later this afternoon, FBR will have gotten 9/12 (75%) week 1 bracket winners correct.  Over the past 4 years, FBR has been between 73%-85% on week 1 bracket winners, so this year potentially will still fall within it's historical range.

Back to FC Dallas North White and Sting Dallas Blue for a minute...

First and foremost, congratulations to the players, coaches, and parents from both of those teams!  I know first-hand the overwhelming excitement and pride all of you are currently feeling (when my '01 DD's team went to QT, they were a #15 seed - #19 in the FBR - and beat the #8 seed to qualify for D1 on week #1 - ironically, over a D'Feeters team coach by Skip Scarfone ).  Enjoy it.  Bask in it. Soak it all in.  The girls have worked their butts off and it's a fantastic accomplishment that should be celebrated to the fullest!

However, I will also say this...  For the sake of all of the girls, the coaches, and parents from those teams, I sincerely hope that FBR (and the QT seeding committee) were truly wrong about your teams, and you didn't just catch lightning in a bottle this weekend.  Because if it turns out over the long haul of the season, that FBR/LHGCL seeding committee were more right than wrong, it's going to be a l-o-n-g, trying year in the D1 Supergroup.  My DD's team that beat the #8 seed in the QT by a 2-0 score, played that same team in week 2 of league play and got absolutely gobsmacked 5-0, which turned out to be one of about 5 or 6 games that they lost by 4+ goals during the U11 season. They ended up finishing U11 league play in 17th place, right smack in the middle of where FBR and the seeding committee predicted, and we were sweating out relegation until the next to the last week of the season.

However, FBR has also certainly gotten it wrong before.  Most notably with '03 Cosmos and '03 Fever who were ranked #19 & #20 going into QT and both finished in the top 10 of the league standings at U11.  So again, I sincerely hope that's the case here, and your QT performance carries over in the upcoming league season.  

Congrats again!  

Well said.
And as mentioned earlier,
"There is nothing wrong with getting your a$$ handed to you every now and then"

Below was an attempted quote of bwgophers post. If they do that the brackets will be horribly uneven. LH needs to use some discretion and re-seed.

According to my sources, they will use the same methodology to populate the week 2 brackets that they used with the '00's-'03's (when only the bracket winners qualified for D1 in week 1 and the rest of the D1 spots were filled in week 2).  That methodology is based on the bracket results from week 1, not total points.  Based on that methodology, the week 2 brackets will be formed as follows:



Where L2 = Week 1 2nd place finisher from Bracket L, K2 = Week 1 2nd place finisher from Bracket K, etc.
It is possible that some of the #3/#4 seeds may get shuffled in order to avoid rematches from week 1 of QT.[/quote

Is the LP Elite team T. Drake's old team?

Dec2020 wrote:Is the LP Elite team T. Drake's old team?

Yes, and he's still gracing their sideline.

Bwgophers awesome response.

EyeOut wrote:Below was an attempted quote of bwgophers post. If they do that the brackets will be horribly uneven. LH needs to use some discretion and re-seed.

According to my sources, they will use the same methodology to populate the week 2 brackets that they used with the '00's-'03's (when only the bracket winners qualified for D1 in week 1 and the rest of the D1 spots were filled in week 2).  That methodology is based on the bracket results from week 1, not total points.  Based on that methodology, the week 2 brackets will be formed as follows:



Where L2 = Week 1 2nd place finisher from Bracket L, K2 = Week 1 2nd place finisher from Bracket K, etc.
It is possible that some of the #3/#4 seeds may get shuffled in order to avoid rematches from week 1 of QT.[/quote

Well, they haven't done it in the past.  In the example I quoted in my post above when my DD'd team beat the #8 overall seed, that team actually ended up finishing 3rd in the bracket that weekend and they did not deviate from the methodology.