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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 09/11/17, 11:48 am

BigE set the date for 2017. What will be the next date? 2012 2017 ?

It's a sinking ship w a new league.


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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Big Ern on 09/11/17, 11:52 am

SickofStupidity wrote:
President Camacho wrote:
Zizou wrote:My DD has done both and we have definitely seen differences or have seen how USSF mandates how the coaches go about their training. A lot has to do with the clubs infrastructure and staff available to the players and teams. Nutrition, injury prevention, classroom lectures and teaching, video and coaches analysis , and multiple coaches training the girls. Just a few of the differences noticed.
Curious as to how much of the intended curriculum is getting used early on... Like how often does video analysis, nutrition and injury prevention get addressed? Concepts are great, Hope they are getting implemented.

BigE will tell you every team is providing everything above, as required.  Some even have a psychologist on-hand!

Or ..... ,

I will tell you that this is what DA programs are supposed to be doing.  

We just happen to be lucky enough to be in a spot that is following the guidelines and I know that Solar is as well.  Seems that this is happening at Dash, in CO and in SoCal as well, so ...

Trending in a positive direction wouldn't ya say?

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 09/11/17, 12:01 pm

It's time to get off the sinking ship. The Titanic was not invincible. ECNL will be just a shell of itself very soon.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by setplay on 12/11/17, 06:04 pm

DA was the right decision for us. Been great so far. Ecnl should have no problem simply for the void it fills. Some players want to play high school soccer/other sports.
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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 13/11/17, 12:35 pm

I like a shiny disco ball.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by eaglemountaindad99 on 14/11/17, 12:03 am

BigErn wrote:
SickofStupidity wrote:
President Camacho wrote:
Zizou wrote:My DD has done both and we have definitely seen differences or have seen how USSF mandates how the coaches go about their training. A lot has to do with the clubs infrastructure and staff available to the players and teams. Nutrition, injury prevention, classroom lectures and teaching, video and coaches analysis , and multiple coaches training the girls. Just a few of the differences noticed.
Curious as to how much of the intended curriculum is getting used early on... Like how often does video analysis, nutrition and injury prevention get addressed? Concepts are great, Hope they are getting implemented.

BigE will tell you every team is providing everything above, as required.  Some even have a psychologist on-hand!

Or ..... ,

I will tell you that this is what DA programs are supposed to be doing.  

We just happen to be lucky enough to be in a spot that is following the guidelines and I know that Solar is as well.  Seems that this is happening at Dash, in CO and in SoCal as well, so ...

Trending in a positive direction wouldn't ya say?

If ya'll aren't listening to Big ern..... better go back and read.
I don't post often, but when I do....
Our club has the same DA and ECNL coach. They often practice together, scrimmage each other, move players between teams, get water together, etc. Same drills, same coaching. One plays "here", one plays "there". Yes, some of the top end girls went to the DA team, but that doesn't change the dynamic. End results are so much more dependent on what you're DD is doing to further her career than which "elite" team she is on. There are too many factors to figure in to say which fits better. The DA games have a referee air-conditioned tent, that doesn't mean they don't blow calls.... that also doesn't mean you're doing anything more for recognition for your daughter. I think it matters so much more with your daughters commitment to networking and finding the right match. I think DA has made a definite impact, but not to ECNL, more to LHGCL and other leagues.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 14/11/17, 09:10 am

The pool is fluid. As long as they can manipulate the system it's a big win for the club's. Agreed plenty of cash being spent at all levels in NTX.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Knuckleball on 16/11/17, 03:49 pm

timmyh wrote:
Zizou wrote:It won’t even take a few years. DA will add more clubs next year including Albion or Challenge, TFC or Tulsa Energy and the the addition of DA -2 or a composite league will further the deplete the ECNL Texas division. USSF will continue to enforce its strength to crush ECNL. That’s just due to the bad blood between the two sides and the hatred that has been created between the two.

What happens in Houston and Tulsa will be interesting.  I imagine Houston will ultimately be a 2 DA club town, and Tulsa a single DA club town.  The club that doesn't get DA (TFC or Energy and Challenge or Albion) will be in a really bad spot in the medium to long term.

Just to be clear on the Energy situation.  It's not "Tulsa Energy" per say.  Energy is now Energy Central (fka Oklahoma FC), Energy East (fka Tulsa Blitz) and Energy West (fka Candian Valley in Yukon/Mustang).  TSC Hurricane was accepted into DA but declined and went ECNL.  So, hopefully DA will come back around and choose Energy and stick it to TSC.
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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 16/11/17, 08:54 pm

The club w the deepest pocketbook will get the golden ticket to see Willy Wonka. I would bet the farm on that. Laughing

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by greaterisHe on 17/11/17, 04:04 pm

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by KeeperCommander on 20/11/17, 11:14 am

Knuckleball wrote:
timmyh wrote:
Zizou wrote:It won’t even take a few years. DA will add more clubs next year including Albion or Challenge, TFC or Tulsa Energy and the the addition of DA -2 or a composite league will further the deplete the ECNL Texas division. USSF will continue to enforce its strength to crush ECNL. That’s just due to the bad blood between the two sides and the hatred that has been created between the two.

What happens in Houston and Tulsa will be interesting.  I imagine Houston will ultimately be a 2 DA club town, and Tulsa a single DA club town.  The club that doesn't get DA (TFC or Energy and Challenge or Albion) will be in a really bad spot in the medium to long term.

Just to be clear on the Energy situation.  It's not "Tulsa Energy" per say.  Energy is now Energy Central (fka Oklahoma FC), Energy East (fka Tulsa Blitz) and Energy West (fka Candian Valley in Yukon/Mustang).  TSC Hurricane was accepted into DA but declined and went ECNL.  So, hopefully DA will come back around and choose Energy and stick it to TSC.
Are we bitter toward TSC or just hateful?

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 20/11/17, 01:48 pm

Watch "Kansas - Dust in the Wind (Official Video)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ

ECNL is just after thought now. DUST IN THE WIND.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by OkieEnergyDad on 20/11/17, 08:26 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:
Knuckleball wrote:
timmyh wrote:
Zizou wrote:It won’t even take a few years. DA will add more clubs next year including Albion or Challenge, TFC or Tulsa Energy and the the addition of DA -2 or a composite league will further the deplete the ECNL Texas division. USSF will continue to enforce its strength to crush ECNL. That’s just due to the bad blood between the two sides and the hatred that has been created between the two.

What happens in Houston and Tulsa will be interesting.  I imagine Houston will ultimately be a 2 DA club town, and Tulsa a single DA club town.  The club that doesn't get DA (TFC or Energy and Challenge or Albion) will be in a really bad spot in the medium to long term.

Just to be clear on the Energy situation.  It's not "Tulsa Energy" per say.  Energy is now Energy Central (fka Oklahoma FC), Energy East (fka Tulsa Blitz) and Energy West (fka Candian Valley in Yukon/Mustang).  TSC Hurricane was accepted into DA but declined and went ECNL.  So, hopefully DA will come back around and choose Energy and stick it to TSC.
Are we bitter toward TSC or just hateful?

So...the rumor is a club in OK has been invited to join DA, will be announced in Feb, and it isn't TSC...

Anyone else hearing these rumors?
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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Big Ern on 21/11/17, 03:26 pm

OkieEnergyDad wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
Knuckleball wrote:
timmyh wrote:
Zizou wrote:It won’t even take a few years. DA will add more clubs next year including Albion or Challenge, TFC or Tulsa Energy and the the addition of DA -2 or a composite league will further the deplete the ECNL Texas division. USSF will continue to enforce its strength to crush ECNL. That’s just due to the bad blood between the two sides and the hatred that has been created between the two.

What happens in Houston and Tulsa will be interesting.  I imagine Houston will ultimately be a 2 DA club town, and Tulsa a single DA club town.  The club that doesn't get DA (TFC or Energy and Challenge or Albion) will be in a really bad spot in the medium to long term.

Just to be clear on the Energy situation.  It's not "Tulsa Energy" per say.  Energy is now Energy Central (fka Oklahoma FC), Energy East (fka Tulsa Blitz) and Energy West (fka Candian Valley in Yukon/Mustang).  TSC Hurricane was accepted into DA but declined and went ECNL.  So, hopefully DA will come back around and choose Energy and stick it to TSC.
Are we bitter toward TSC or just hateful?

So...the rumor is a club in OK has been invited to join DA, will be announced in Feb, and it isn't TSC...

Anyone else hearing these rumors?

If OK Energy does get the invite, it'd probably be to take the place of FC KC ... hopefully Energy would be a bit more competitive.  I'm guessing that USSDA will end up removing 1 and adding 2 to get to 10 total in Frontier Division.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Zizou on 21/11/17, 06:55 pm

Do you think they would remove a club after just one season?

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Post by Medicine Man on 21/11/17, 07:03 pm

Bw would know Zizou, you might ask the wizard of His ways.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Jugglemaster on 21/11/17, 07:52 pm

Ready for Galaxy Division 2019

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Post by bird04 on 21/11/17, 10:37 pm

Medicine Man wrote:Bw would know Zizou, you might ask the wizard of His ways.

You're an angry weirdo. Go away and stalk your local grade school playground. Please....you're not funny, or clever, or interesting, or informative, or contributory, or, really, anything, other than a pathetic, destructive, tiresome, irksome weirdo. Go away. I'm sure there's an ISIS message board somewhere where your singular talents could find productive employment to destroy and demoralize...find it and use your skills where they can be of use.

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Post by Big Ern on 21/11/17, 11:38 pm

Zizou wrote:Do you think they would remove a club after just one season?

Jees -- you'd hope so given they've been outscored by close to 7 goals on average across each age group over their first ten matches ... wouldn't ya?

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Post by Zizou on 22/11/17, 06:37 am

I blame USSF ! Seems they drop the ball on their search. Kansas club had zero past history of competing against competition, were not even admitted as a ECNL team, and has to compete with sporting blue, in what seems to be a very small market. I know the numbers but jeez , don’t you think they at least deserve a chance?

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Post by SickofStupidity on 22/11/17, 07:10 am

Zizou wrote:I blame USSF ! Seems they drop the ball on their search. Kansas club had zero past history of competing against competition, were not even admitted as a ECNL team, and has to compete with sporting blue, in what seems to be a very small market. I know the numbers but jeez , don’t you think they at least deserve a chance?

It's "don't ya", Sir.

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Re: Will ECNL survive?

Post by Medicine Man on 22/11/17, 07:58 am

Burn baby burn

Outside the Oklahoma top teams it's slim pickens till you go to Californ and a few other states. Who really believes all the smoke and mirrors. If those teams want to travel to TX then we can start comparing Apple's to oranges.

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Post by Zizou on 22/11/17, 09:19 am

 SickofStupidity wrote:
Zizou wrote:I blame USSF ! Seems they drop the ball on their search. Kansas club had zero past history of competing against competition, were not even admitted as a ECNL team, and has to compete with sporting blue, in what seems to be a very small market. I know the numbers but jeez , don’t you think they at least deserve a chance?

It's "don't ya", Sir.
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Post by Medicine Man on 22/11/17, 08:02 pm

Disco Inferno!

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Post by PacmanJr00 on 26/11/17, 08:40 am

BigErn wrote:
Zizou wrote:Do you think they would remove a club after just one season?

Jees -- you'd hope so given they've been outscored by close to 7 goals on average across each age group over their first ten matches ... wouldn't ya?

Would ecnl do the same for sting austin?

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Post by Zizou on 26/11/17, 08:55 am

Hell no! Sting owns ECNL.

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