Teams not making?

by u95g dad 27/06/11, 05:55 pm

So what does it look like out there? Are there any Lake Highland teams that are having trouble making or have already given up? It seems there are several girls that I know that have decided not to play this year so I am guessing that is going on all around. With the ENCL teams taking some players has that helped or hurt the other teams in their recruiting?

I don't know how many teams at this age group there are that play in Plano and Arlington Divisions but I would think those age brackets would pretty much have to close up shop with the additional openings in D3.

There is not much time until we know the answers unless some teams are hanging on with low numbers and hoping to fill the spots after signing. I have heard of at least one with 12. I won't mention any names because I don't want to spread rumors that might not be true. At this age group I would be very worried about going into a season with a low roster. Too many injuries and other activities that can reduce the numbers even more.

Good luck to all that continue to play. Seems like only yesterday that we were doing Academy and now we are almost finished. Crying or Very sad

by maniac 27/06/11, 09:08 pm

Almost finished! Yeah! I might have a little extra cash now and then.

by Pitchmon 27/06/11, 10:31 pm

u95g dad wrote:So what does it look like out there? Are there any Lake Highland teams that are having trouble making or have already given up? It seems there are several girls that I know that have decided not to play this year so I am guessing that is going on all around. With the ENCL teams taking some players has that helped or hurt the other teams in their recruiting?

I don't know how many teams at this age group there are that play in Plano and Arlington Divisions but I would think those age brackets would pretty much have to close up shop with the additional openings in D3.

There is not much time until we know the answers unless some teams are hanging on with low numbers and hoping to fill the spots after signing. I have heard of at least one with 12. I won't mention any names because I don't want to spread rumors that might not be true. At this age group I would be very worried about going into a season with a low roster. Too many injuries and other activities that can reduce the numbers even more.

Good luck to all that continue to play. Seems like only yesterday that we were doing Academy and now we are almost finished.

I have heard several. Solar Blue, FWFC, Texans red north, liverpool 95, there that should get something started you are too nice 95 dad.

by grnsk8ed 27/06/11, 10:52 pm

Texans Red North has FULL roster...

by u95g dad 28/06/11, 09:40 am

grnsk8ed wrote:Texans Red North has FULL roster...

Glad to hear they have a full roster. I know a couple of girls that had left the team. From looking at your website it looked like you had replaced them. Good luck in the upcoming season.

by BigBoy 29/06/11, 09:51 am

sounds like the ECNL tryouts that Solar 95 held truly benefitted Solar Royal also. Great Coach there....wish her many great returns.

by MaggieMaggie 29/06/11, 11:08 am

Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

by BigBoy 29/06/11, 11:52 am

MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

by MaggieMaggie 29/06/11, 01:05 pm

BigBoy wrote:
MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

I would have completely agreed with you at one time and still do for the younger age groups/late bloomers. I don't think the big club system is patient or kind to the late bloomers. I once had an interesting conversation w a mom who truly felt the smaller clubs were there to work with the later bloomers and if they did blossom, it was her club's right to take these girls once developed, for their own good, mind you. IMO, there is too much pressure at too early an age which contributes to the high rate of burn out late middle school/high school. But, I think it is better to be a starter with pleny of field time than a pine rider on a higher level team. Can't get better if little opportunity for actual game time, not just training. At the older ages, being with a larger club with a national reputation, will get your dd to more show cases and will get your dd more college coaching exposure. If your dd does not want to play in college, you bet ... it only makes sense to play on a team for mainly social reasons. I'm not saying this as a dis. It makes time and money sense. Plus all the pressure to contact, maintain coaching contacts and going show cases is a waste of time/$$ for some. It also seems like some of the worst parents are the ones whose DDs are the 22nd rostered and it is clear they have joined particular teams just to have expensive bragging rights.

by u95g dad 29/06/11, 03:57 pm

BigBoy wrote:
MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

I don't know if there is that big a difference in the dues between a Big Club (Sting, Texans, etc) than a smaller club(Tornados, etc). There are a few semi independants that are a good price but not sure if they can keep up when players move around. Besides, most of the Big clubs have multiple teams anyway and there is nowhere else to go. Sting will probably have 25% or more of the teams in Lake Highlands because they have so many teams.

One advantage that the big clubs MIGHT have at the older age groups is the ability to guest play within your club at Showcase tournaments, etc. I have seen this at Sting but don't know if this happens at the other clubs.

by MaggieMaggie 29/06/11, 04:08 pm

u95g dad wrote:
BigBoy wrote:
MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

I don't know if there is that big a difference in the dues between a Big Club (Sting, Texans, etc) than a smaller club(Tornados, etc). There are a few semi independants that are a good price but not sure if they can keep up when players move around. Besides, most of the Big clubs have multiple teams anyway and there is nowhere else to go. Sting will probably have 25% or more of the teams in Lake Highlands because they have so many teams.

One advantage that the big clubs MIGHT have at the older age groups is the ability to guest play within your club at Showcase tournaments, etc. I have seen this at Sting but don't know if this happens at the other clubs.

Yes, it is pretty fluid at FC between actual age groups and one age group up. A 95 might guest for 95s and/or 94s. I know a good friend was able to guest in Houston for another Solar team (95 on a 94 team) so know it has been done at least once there too.

by Zlata 30/06/11, 06:36 pm

BigBoy wrote:
MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

See below.. this sums it up.

by Zlata 30/06/11, 06:47 pm

Zlata wrote:
BigBoy wrote:
MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

as Sting SUPER GREEN or something like that??? (actually Sting White I think)

WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END???

I have a question....really. What is the benefit of being on the 4th team at even a really good club? You pay the same amount as the lady on the top team just to wear the uni...is there a benefit to it for the girls? I dont think so. I would be seeking cheaper options if this were me.

Let me give you a little anecdote about a local club that shall remain nameless. Once upon a time, this club had only an A and B team for the most part, in each age group.

It was a + for both teams, because the ones on the A team knew that they must work hard to stay on A.

The B team had a plus also. Work hard and you can possibly move to A (which some did)

An analogy would be like this: You have a packet of Kool-Aid that requires a quart of water to taste right. You add the packet into the quart and yummy, it tastes good.

Now fast forward to the present. Said club is stacked 4-5-6 deep on most age group teams. That packet of Kool-Aid has been dumped into an olympic size swimming pool.

And all the parents complain "Mo Money, Mo Money Mo Money" as they open the wallets. No such thing as economies of scale at this club.. It's a lose-win scenario. Lose for all parents and players, win for club owners and their compadres... And the beat goes on.. and ignorant parents get sucked in like flies to the bug-zapper.. Some get stung along the way too.

by u95g dad 30/06/11, 07:16 pm

At least I like your icon. Smile

I liked it better when there were more clubs to pick from also but that is not the current landscape at this time. I really admire Feet for maintaining their one team per age group philosphy.

I think it started with the red koolaid but the blue koolaid has really expanded the pool. Now they even let boys swim. affraid

by u95g dad 02/07/11, 11:29 am

MaggieMaggie wrote:Some teams that are clearly going to make actually have too many girls at practice right now. I hope the parents/girls who don't have a firm committment yet have some of these other teams on their radar. Bruno is an excellent coach and they are practicing at Dallas Sting which is a very nice facility.

I heard at our signing party that several girls were still looking for a team last minute. That is too bad that the coaches and kids/parents don't communicate if the player has a spot or not. I hope all the players that want to play are able to find a good home. Very Happy

by AgGermany 03/07/11, 11:42 pm

Make sure you are dealing with a coach that does not lie about holding a spot either... but if he does, take it as an answer that you shouldn't be there and get on with the fun business of soccer! looking forward to another year of growth, challenge and development for my dd!

by MaggieMaggie 04/07/11, 12:07 am

AgGermany wrote:Make sure you are dealing with a coach that does not lie about holding a spot either... but if he does, take it as an answer that you shouldn't be there and get on with the fun business of soccer! looking forward to another year of growth, challenge and development for my dd!

Yes, one coach last year had the manager send out invitations to the signing party. Way too many girls were invited to the "signing party". He actually held a new team first practice with all the girls. The girls who were not being made offers found out when the information packets were handed out at the end and when the manager walked by the cut girls/parents. VERY POOR since a few of these girls were left in limbo without a team. I have not heard any horror stories this bad this year. There did appear to be a small waive of girls showing up late for some teams. All I can think is they were trying to get on top teams and stayed a little too long. Sadly by that time,the D2 and most D3 spots were also committed. The lesson is if you are still wondering towards mid to late June, you must have a solid plan B in the works too. Sort of like college rush. Bad idea to "suicide" one club with no acceptable back up.

by AgGermany 04/07/11, 09:08 am

Wow! That sounds exactly like the loser coach I am speaking of and his manager... I'd be suprised if it wasn't the same team.

by Pitchmon 06/07/11, 09:51 pm

AgGermany wrote:Wow! That sounds exactly like the loser coach I am speaking of and his manager... I'd be suprised if it wasn't the same team.

Do tell, we are almost done....who cares!! LOL could be funny especially if they are from Arlington. LOL

by AgGermany 07/07/11, 01:26 pm

Nope, different stories! Sounded alot like what WAS an Arlington coach and manager story!

by 8901kazmar 07/07/11, 03:29 pm

American Eagles 98 Girls Blue Team-- We are still looking for 3 to 5 players. Our team is a Plano II Team. WE would be open to select players and recreational players. I would also be open to mature strong 99's or 00's. Please contact me "Alex Schindler" directly at 214-415-7507 Mobil or alexschindler@americaneaglessc.org - You may also go to our website at www.americaneaglessc.org. We are formerly the DFW Tornados Soccer Club.

by texflats 07/07/11, 06:38 pm

8901kazmar wrote:American Eagles 98 Girls Blue Team-- We are still looking for 3 to 5 players. Our team is a Plano II Team. WE would be open to select players and recreational players. I would also be open to mature strong 99's or 00's. Please contact me "Alex Schindler" directly at 214-415-7507 Mobil or alexschindler@americaneaglessc.org - You may also go to our website at www.americaneaglessc.org. We are formerly the DFW Tornados Soccer Club.

Huh? Are you and your 98s (with those "strong" 99s and 000s) going to play up this year? Or are you just looking for some little sisters??

by Pitchmon 07/07/11, 09:18 pm

8901kazmar wrote:American Eagles 98 Girls Blue Team-- We are still looking for 3 to 5 players. Our team is a Plano II Team. WE would be open to select players and recreational players. I would also be open to mature strong 99's or 00's. Please contact me "Alex Schindler" directly at 214-415-7507 Mobil or alexschindler@americaneaglessc.org - You may also go to our website at www.americaneaglessc.org. We are formerly the DFW Tornados Soccer Club.

I think you made a left, when you should have made a right turn. LOL

by u95g dad 18/07/11, 06:14 pm

So what are the final totals? From what I have heard/seen it looks like Solar Blue did not make. I don't know if Solar found a team to replace that bye or if they have to give it up.

I also see that Solar White has moved to Liverpool. I am guessing the team took the bye with them to Liverpool or it would not make any sense to move the team.

I think FWFC made a late rush and was able to field a team. I am not sure about Liverpool Dalglish (prev Sting Silver).

If Solar Blue did not make or replace the team then it would appear Sting West Blue would be the next team to move up to D2. That would leave 1 or 2 teams in D3 with only 7 in qualifying. Looks like there is no need for a QT.

What happened to Odyssey? I thought they would have signed up for the QT?

Anybody else have any news or clarification?

by BigBoy 18/07/11, 06:20 pm

u95g dad wrote:So what are the final totals? From what I have heard/seen it looks like Solar Blue did not make. I don't know if Solar found a team to replace that bye or if they have to give it up.

I also see that Solar White has moved to Liverpool. I am guessing the team took the bye with them to Liverpool or it would not make any sense to move the team.

I think FWFC made a late rush and was able to field a team. I am not sure about Liverpool Dalglish (prev Sting Silver).

If Solar Blue did not make or replace the team then it would appear Sting West Blue would be the next team to move up to D2. That would leave 1 or 2 teams in D3 with only 7 in qualifying. Looks like there is no need for a QT.

What happened to Odyssey? I thought they would have signed up for the QT?

Anybody else have any news or clarification?

Who's on first.

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