Feet Expanding

96Guru wrote:Fact is, Feet never wanted it to be about the money, they wanted to be about development, in a good environment that woudl prepare the player for what they will experience when they get to to college. The training, learning the game and not being dead set on win, win,win. Developing players! UNC, you come from a place where all of the focus is on winning. How is the development over there? I all to often have seen girls leave your club because they were just beat down and told they werent good enough. We will just replace you. Or, we are ahead in the game so lets pack the box and not play straight up soccer. What does that teach exactly?

I would love to see some stats on how many players dropped out of soccer after their first year of college because they were not prepared for what was coming at them. They were not taught integrity, how to be humble and how to work hard on learning the game in case the college they attend plays them in a different position than what they were used to.

Let me tell you, if you are in club right now at the U14 or below level, you need to step back and ask yourself, "is my daughter truly learning respect for the game and how the game is played, or is she being taught to always send it to one person everytime because that is how we win?"
Too much emphasis is put on winning and not learning. If you learn the game, you will win.
Being in the middle of the pack in standings is not a problem. When a college coach approaches your daughter and says "she is a great forward but want her as a defender and will give her a fully scholarship if she can play that position. Has she ever played it?"
Its a problem if your answer is "my daughter has never played it but she can learn". Your answer should be "my daughter is a soccer player, she can play any position"

Your daughter might score 100 goals this but many coaches will be looking at the players around her that made it happen.

All of the D'Feeter coaches have other jobs. They dont coach for a living. It was never about being a business. Yes they get paid and not like some of the other club coaches that do it as their only source of income.

The only way Feet, as a club, can keep up with attracting players is to expand to offer more options. They are a victim of the business this has become.

I have never my decision to play my daughter for Feet. She has learned valuable life lessons that stretch a lot further than just soccer. Her coach is a heck of role model and for as much time as she spends at soccer practice, I want her being influenced by someone that is as good of a person as he is a coach.

bigtex75081 wrote:

96Guru wrote:Fact is, Feet never wanted it to be about the money, they wanted to be about development, in a good environment that woudl prepare the player for what they will experience when they get to to college. The training, learning the game and not being dead set on win, win,win. Developing players! UNC, you come from a place where all of the focus is on winning. How is the development over there? I all to often have seen girls leave your club because they were just beat down and told they werent good enough. We will just replace you. Or, we are ahead in the game so lets pack the box and not play straight up soccer. What does that teach exactly?

I would love to see some stats on how many players dropped out of soccer after their first year of college because they were not prepared for what was coming at them. They were not taught integrity, how to be humble and how to work hard on learning the game in case the college they attend plays them in a different position than what they were used to.

Let me tell you, if you are in club right now at the U14 or below level, you need to step back and ask yourself, "is my daughter truly learning respect for the game and how the game is played, or is she being taught to always send it to one person everytime because that is how we win?"
Too much emphasis is put on winning and not learning. If you learn the game, you will win.
Being in the middle of the pack in standings is not a problem. When a college coach approaches your daughter and says "she is a great forward but want her as a defender and will give her a fully scholarship if she can play that position. Has she ever played it?"
Its a problem if your answer is "my daughter has never played it but she can learn". Your answer should be "my daughter is a soccer player, she can play any position"

Your daughter might score 100 goals this but many coaches will be looking at the players around her that made it happen.

All of the D'Feeter coaches have other jobs. They dont coach for a living. It was never about being a business. Yes they get paid and not like some of the other club coaches that do it as their only source of income.

The only way Feet, as a club, can keep up with attracting players is to expand to offer more options. They are a victim of the business this has become.

I have never my decision to play my daughter for Feet. She has learned valuable life lessons that stretch a lot further than just soccer. Her coach is a heck of role model and for as much time as she spends at soccer practice, I want her being influenced by someone that is as good of a person as he is a coach.

Good post. We need more posts that say, "We do it better and this is how..."

What's the over/under on Hassan's annual salary? $200K?

giggedy wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:

96Guru wrote:Fact is, Feet never wanted it to be about the money, they wanted to be about development, in a good environment that woudl prepare the player for what they will experience when they get to to college. The training, learning the game and not being dead set on win, win,win. Developing players! UNC, you come from a place where all of the focus is on winning. How is the development over there? I all to often have seen girls leave your club because they were just beat down and told they werent good enough. We will just replace you. Or, we are ahead in the game so lets pack the box and not play straight up soccer. What does that teach exactly?

I would love to see some stats on how many players dropped out of soccer after their first year of college because they were not prepared for what was coming at them. They were not taught integrity, how to be humble and how to work hard on learning the game in case the college they attend plays them in a different position than what they were used to.

Let me tell you, if you are in club right now at the U14 or below level, you need to step back and ask yourself, "is my daughter truly learning respect for the game and how the game is played, or is she being taught to always send it to one person everytime because that is how we win?"
Too much emphasis is put on winning and not learning. If you learn the game, you will win.
Being in the middle of the pack in standings is not a problem. When a college coach approaches your daughter and says "she is a great forward but want her as a defender and will give her a fully scholarship if she can play that position. Has she ever played it?"
Its a problem if your answer is "my daughter has never played it but she can learn". Your answer should be "my daughter is a soccer player, she can play any position"

Your daughter might score 100 goals this but many coaches will be looking at the players around her that made it happen.

All of the D'Feeter coaches have other jobs. They dont coach for a living. It was never about being a business. Yes they get paid and not like some of the other club coaches that do it as their only source of income.

The only way Feet, as a club, can keep up with attracting players is to expand to offer more options. They are a victim of the business this has become.

I have never my decision to play my daughter for Feet. She has learned valuable life lessons that stretch a lot further than just soccer. Her coach is a heck of role model and for as much time as she spends at soccer practice, I want her being influenced by someone that is as good of a person as he is a coach.

Good post. We need more posts that say, "We do it better and this is how..."

What's the over/under on Hassan's annual salary? $200K?

I'll go with the over and walk away with an easy win. I've seen the numbers.

Uncle Numanga wrote:If Feet is all about developing, why aren't there better results for them at the older age groups? And as far as a good environment, how come on the 95's, off the original U-11 rosters, Sting has 8 Texans have 7 and Feet have 2, maybe 3? Obviously, they either quit or moved to other teams. Meanwhile, Sting and Texans are still winning. They must also be developing. I really don't know anything about the other age groups. With them, I use records.

Whenever a kid leaves any team, it is because they didn't want to be there. You will hear all kinds of things as to why they left. Don't believe everything you're told.

College? There were plenty of North Texas players in the NCAA finals, why don't you ask them how prepared they were? I'll give Feet credit for Chi. She is tremendous.

96Guru wrote:Fact is, Feet never wanted it to be about the money, they wanted to be about development, in a good environment that woudl prepare the player for what they will experience when they get to to college. The training, learning the game and not being dead set on win, win,win. Developing players! UNC, you come from a place where all of the focus is on winning. How is the development over there? I all to often have seen girls leave your club because they were just beat down and told they werent good enough. We will just replace you. Or, we are ahead in the game so lets pack the box and not play straight up soccer. What does that teach exactly?

I would love to see some stats on how many players dropped out of soccer after their first year of college because they were not prepared for what was coming at them. They were not taught integrity, how to be humble and how to work hard on learning the game in case the college they attend plays them in a different position than what they were used to.

Let me tell you, if you are in club right now at the U14 or below level, you need to step back and ask yourself, "is my daughter truly learning respect for the game and how the game is played, or is she being taught to always send it to one person everytime because that is how we win?"
Too much emphasis is put on winning and not learning. If you learn the game, you will win.
Being in the middle of the pack in standings is not a problem. When a college coach approaches your daughter and says "she is a great forward but want her as a defender and will give her a fully scholarship if she can play that position. Has she ever played it?"
Its a problem if your answer is "my daughter has never played it but she can learn". Your answer should be "my daughter is a soccer player, she can play any position"

Your daughter might score 100 goals this but many coaches will be looking at the players around her that made it happen.

All of the D'Feeter coaches have other jobs. They dont coach for a living. It was never about being a business. Yes they get paid and not like some of the other club coaches that do it as their only source of income.

The only way Feet, as a club, can keep up with attracting players is to expand to offer more options. They are a victim of the business this has become.

I have never my decision to play my daughter for Feet. She has learned valuable life lessons that stretch a lot further than just soccer. Her coach is a heck of role model and for as much time as she spends at soccer practice, I want her being influenced by someone that is as good of a person as he is a coach.

Gunners wrote:tl;dr (too long didn't read)

You would think, after all these years, that Feet parents, especially the parents of older ones, would have thicker skin.

As the late great Sergeant Hulka once said, "Lighten up, Francis."

Soccerfan09 wrote:Whatever is shaping up at Feet I hope they pull it off and come out stronger. I remember coming to the metroplex for tourneys watching my sisters '79 team play. I always wanted to see Feet and Sting on the tourney schedule, meant for damn good games.

I would say they are solid, not that it matters for much, but the focus at this point I think needs to be those younger teams in the academy ages, and they need to get out into the outer laying cities where they can attract some of that talent to build on over time.

Good example you just had two solid TXblack gold squads swallowed whole by the Texans. '04s and '05s. Young yes, but how quickly the time will fly and they will be sitting on the doorstep of select. Those could have been in Feet green instead of Texan red.

That is what this is all about isn't it, teaching a love for the game, building confident young ladies, skilled at the sport and all the life lessons it brings with it.

Isn't it??

Gunners wrote:tl;dr (too long didn't read)

You would think, after all these years, that Feet parents, especially the parents of older ones, would have thicker skin.

As the late great Sergeant Hulka once said, "Lighten up, Francis."

Xara wrote:

Soccerfan09 wrote:Whatever is shaping up at Feet I hope they pull it off and come out stronger. I remember coming to the metroplex for tourneys watching my sisters '79 team play. I always wanted to see Feet and Sting on the tourney schedule, meant for damn good games.

I would say they are solid, not that it matters for much, but the focus at this point I think needs to be those younger teams in the academy ages, and they need to get out into the outer laying cities where they can attract some of that talent to build on over time.

Good example you just had two solid TXblack gold squads swallowed whole by the Texans. '04s and '05s. Young yes, but how quickly the time will fly and they will be sitting on the doorstep of select. Those could have been in Feet green instead of Texan red.

That is what this is all about isn't it, teaching a love for the game, building confident young ladies, skilled at the sport and all the life lessons it brings with it.

Isn't it??

What have you been smoking? Yes, I love the novel concept as highlighted in red; but we're talking select soccer here. A guy like Unc bleeds Texans red and nothing else. Looks like green is flowing through Guru's veins. But here's an unfortunate news flash: Neither of these clubs (nor Sting, FC Dallas, et al) are overly concerned with the kids playing on the teams. It's all a business. Didn't start out that way but it sure as hell is what it's all become. If a girl is on the top Texans Red team and can't keep up as she gets older - she's gone. See ya, sucka. A better player comes along in June and would be a step up from the 17th player on D'Feeters? Later loser. They'll all replace a girl because someone better is available. Development is secondary to winning for every D1 team and most D2/D3 teams when you get right down to it.

Please, everyone, do yourself a favor and don't buy into this crap about "Club X develops, whereas Club Y and Z only recruit their way to success". It's a crock. The coaches are paid to win at the higher levels and your kid is a commodity. Those at the lower levels get more of a break, but then the parents are always looking elsewhere because so many perceive that their daughters can only be successful on the "best" teams playing for the "best" coach alongside the "best" talent. What a farce. When all is said and done, most of you will spend major money and sacrifice loads of time to end up with a daughter who really only plays average soccer. You'll think she's great because she's your own flesh and blood. But if your kid does go onto play soccer in college, you'll show up to the game along with the other 50 parents and boyfriends (or girlfriends) and realize... all that time and money for this???

brokedawg wrote:Wow, I know I don't get on here as much as I used to but stopped by to catch up and find a 5 page thread on D'Feeters expansion is purty interesting...the fact that D'Feeters plan to add 1 more team per age group going forward so that the Club can stay involved in US Youth program as well as the ECNL shouldn't be that big of a deal. My dd is close to graduating so I doubt it will have much effect on me personally but it seems like a good idea for the Club and it makes perfect sense to me. The Club will remain dedicated to the development of female soccer players and this decision will just provide more opportunities for players in the future. Having a team able to play in LHGCL,Premier League, State Cup etc while at the same time having an opportunity for that "elite" player to develop and have the potential to move to an even higher level of play with the ECNL team just seems like a win-win situation for both players and the Club.

brokedawg wrote:Wow, I know I don't get on here as much as I used to but stopped by to catch up and find a 5 page thread on D'Feeters expansion is purty interesting...the fact that D'Feeters plan to add 1 more team per age group going forward so that the Club can stay involved in US Youth program as well as the ECNL shouldn't be that big of a deal. My dd is close to graduating so I doubt it will have much effect on me personally but it seems like a good idea for the Club and it makes perfect sense to me. The Club will remain dedicated to the development of female soccer players and this decision will just provide more opportunities for players in the future. Having a team able to play in LHGCL,Premier League, State Cup etc while at the same time having an opportunity for that "elite" player to develop and have the potential to move to an even higher level of play with the ECNL team just seems like a win-win situation for both players and the Club.

Grifter wrote:

brokedawg wrote:Wow, I know I don't get on here as much as I used to but stopped by to catch up and find a 5 page thread on D'Feeters expansion is purty interesting...the fact that D'Feeters plan to add 1 more team per age group going forward so that the Club can stay involved in US Youth program as well as the ECNL shouldn't be that big of a deal. My dd is close to graduating so I doubt it will have much effect on me personally but it seems like a good idea for the Club and it makes perfect sense to me. The Club will remain dedicated to the development of female soccer players and this decision will just provide more opportunities for players in the future. Having a team able to play in LHGCL,Premier League, State Cup etc while at the same time having an opportunity for that "elite" player to develop and have the potential to move to an even higher level of play with the ECNL team just seems like a win-win situation for both players and the Club.

your avatar is vaguely familiar...

fatherofoneplayer wrote:

Grifter wrote:

brokedawg wrote:Wow, I know I don't get on here as much as I used to but stopped by to catch up and find a 5 page thread on D'Feeters expansion is purty interesting...the fact that D'Feeters plan to add 1 more team per age group going forward so that the Club can stay involved in US Youth program as well as the ECNL shouldn't be that big of a deal. My dd is close to graduating so I doubt it will have much effect on me personally but it seems like a good idea for the Club and it makes perfect sense to me. The Club will remain dedicated to the development of female soccer players and this decision will just provide more opportunities for players in the future. Having a team able to play in LHGCL,Premier League, State Cup etc while at the same time having an opportunity for that "elite" player to develop and have the potential to move to an even higher level of play with the ECNL team just seems like a win-win situation for both players and the Club.

your avatar is vaguely familiar...

BD owns that avatar. Day oner!

brokedawg wrote:

fatherofoneplayer wrote:

Grifter wrote:

brokedawg wrote:Wow, I know I don't get on here as much as I used to but stopped by to catch up and find a 5 page thread on D'Feeters expansion is purty interesting...the fact that D'Feeters plan to add 1 more team per age group going forward so that the Club can stay involved in US Youth program as well as the ECNL shouldn't be that big of a deal. My dd is close to graduating so I doubt it will have much effect on me personally but it seems like a good idea for the Club and it makes perfect sense to me. The Club will remain dedicated to the development of female soccer players and this decision will just provide more opportunities for players in the future. Having a team able to play in LHGCL,Premier League, State Cup etc while at the same time having an opportunity for that "elite" player to develop and have the potential to move to an even higher level of play with the ECNL team just seems like a win-win situation for both players and the Club.

your avatar is vaguely familiar...

BD owns that avatar. Day oner!

Yep,everybody who's anybody knows that's a fact!

Kenshi Dave wrote:Broke ... did I read right?

Your DD (U17) is on the US National U18 team?

If so, Congrats!

brokedawg wrote:

Kenshi Dave wrote:Broke ... did I read right?

Your DD (U17) is on the US National U18 team?

If so, Congrats!

Thanks Kenshi,I will tell her you said congrats.I am hoping she does well but have already told her that regardless of the outcome the fact she is even getting a look is an accomplishment and speaks to all the hard work she has put into the game. She will be at their camp in Florida next week and of course she is excited about the opportunity.

Kenshi Dave wrote:All the top N Tx ECNL-type clubs/teams have success stories similar to this ... The top team from Texans, Sting, Solar, & Feet ... although for some reason FCD Dallas seems to have less success.

And I don't buy that the larger clubs have "more to pick from" argument ... you make it sound like they have a farm system ... IT REALLY DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT (except at FCD ... hmm). The better teams retain their better players and then recruit other good players ... and then go on to develop all the players on the team.

Historically top players have migrated to the top teams of the top clubs. Texans playing for the 2nd best Texan team were no more likely to end up on the top Texan team than any other player in the metroplex.

Development on the top Texan team, top Solar team, top Sting team, and Feet's only team have been very similar ... and make no mistake ... the top club also recruits the top players (and then proceeds to develop them as well).

Broke's daughter is a great Feet example... she has been with Feet since U8 ... Skip shooting & Finishing at U10, Skip coaching U10 & U11, Shea at the older ages, and the entire Feet program (including ECNL). She's now on the U18 National Team and committed to Baylor. Feet 93 also has a great example now starring at National Champions Stanford ... signed w feet at U11 and played throughout.

Last year's Notre Dame National Championship team was chock full of Texans ... to the point that they mentioned the evil empire on the ESPN broadcast.

Sting has arguably been the strongest north texas club/team on the national scene for the past 3 years ... and their college commitments reflect that success.

All the clubs can point to great development examples ... with the 95s (Juniors - graduating 2013), the top Texan, Feet, & Sting teams have most of their girls committed to great college programs (w big $$$ between athletic and academic).

Kenshi Dave wrote:
Still very impressive regardless of outcome.