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Post by deny your goals on 9/7/2015, 4:11 pm

Looking for suggestions on a running coach for my dd she needs help with her form & gait. My son has done mjp but don't really want to do a group.
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Post by Coach on 9/7/2015, 4:13 pm

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Post by Guest on 9/7/2015, 4:43 pm

Nobody ever listens to me on this, but I'll give you my advice anyway. Hill-sprints are an effective free solution. It forces forward lean, triple extension, and the arms will pump automatically. Once those motor patterns are programmed, it will translate to running on the flat surface. The only problem is finding a steep hill around here.

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Post by RightWingDad on 9/7/2015, 5:06 pm

You can call these guys....many of you may remember Omar Stoutmire from his days at the Cowboys. If they are busy they can connect you with other independent track coaches. I'd give them a thumbs up.

http://www.ntxjackrabbits.com/
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Post by intrinsic on 9/7/2015, 6:50 pm

Sho'nuff wrote:Nobody ever listens to me on this, but I'll give you my advice anyway.  Hill-sprints are an effective free solution.  It forces forward lean, triple extension, and the arms will pump automatically.  Once those motor patterns are programmed, it will translate to running on the flat surface.  The only problem is finding a steep hill around here.

Agree 100%. Hill sprints followed by flat sprints (after weeks, not same workout) is what top track coaches would do. Bike trails that go under roads and then back up give you enough of a hill (common in Plano), and some good hills in Richardson. Track coach that explains this well is Steve Magness. He has a specific progression for sprint training in his book The Science of Running. Google him too and probably you will get some good advice. Sprint training is not conditioning- take at least 2-3 mins full recovery after each sprint or hill sprint.

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Post by Guest on 9/7/2015, 9:26 pm

A running coach???

Heck, I'd be ecstatic if we could just get a running ref at one the DD's LHGCL games this fall! affraid

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Post by Guest on 9/7/2015, 10:45 pm

There are Ref's at LHGCL games?

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Post by CelticFC on 12/7/2015, 4:30 pm

Sho'nuff wrote:Nobody ever listens to me on this, but I'll give you my advice anyway.  Hill-sprints are an effective free solution.  It forces forward lean, triple extension, and the arms will pump automatically.  Once those motor patterns are programmed, it will translate to running on the flat surface.  The only problem is finding a steep hill around here.


How long should these Hill-sprints be, measured in either length and/or time? Are you talking steep like stadium stairs or more gradual?
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Post by intrinsic on 12/7/2015, 5:03 pm

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Sho'nuff wrote:Nobody ever listens to me on this, but I'll give you my advice anyway.  Hill-sprints are an effective free solution.  It forces forward lean, triple extension, and the arms will pump automatically.  Once those motor patterns are programmed, it will translate to running on the flat surface.  The only problem is finding a steep hill around here.


How long should these Hill-sprints be, measured in either length and/or time? Are you talking steep like stadium stairs or more gradual?

You are asking the other guy, not me- but hey, I'll answer anyway. My answer is based on distance running coaches that are trying to build sprint speed and advocate hill sprints (Brad Hudson, Renato Canova, Steve Magness). Magness would answer your question by saying 8 seconds of duration, 2 to 3 minutes rest, and start with something like only six sprints, and work up to about 10 of them at 10 seconds. This is not steps (because that isn't the sprinting mechanics), but a hill. Whether it is 5% or 10% or whatever, is ok- they give different stimulus but it's all good. After a few weeks or more of 2 to 3x/wk hill sprints, you can do some flat sprints, and then you work up to 100m, and then after a few sessions you work on speed endurance. Maybe you would skip this last step for soccer players because they don't need to worry about sprinting 150m or 200m continuously.


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Post by Guest on 12/7/2015, 7:59 pm

There is a difference in sprinting on a track and sprinting on a soccer field if you have a ball at your feet.

Point of reference.

https://youtu.be/hZqEj-Qyg6U

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Post by SD69 on 12/7/2015, 8:35 pm

So nobody sprints without a soccer ball on the pitch? I guess I'll need to tell my DD and her coach she doesn't need to include sprints in her training anymore (she'll be thrilled).
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Post by intrinsic on 12/7/2015, 8:37 pm

LaLiga06 wrote:There is a difference in sprinting on a track and sprinting on a soccer field if you have a ball at your feet.

Point of reference.

https://youtu.be/hZqEj-Qyg6U

Yes, and running in a straight line is different than changing directions. Good point.

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Post by Guest on 12/7/2015, 8:40 pm

I love the sarcasm from seasoned posters.

A world class player has a style of sprinting developed for his task at hand. It's referenced in the video if you even watched it. Short gate, for ball control, change of direction....

How would Bolt do sprinting up on a ball with a sprinters style of running....

Forget all that, kick ball coaches love those types of players... carry on.

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Post by intrinsic on 12/7/2015, 8:53 pm

Sprint training recruits (makes available) more fast twitch fibers, and decreases ground contact time, and improves the body's elastic energy storage and return system. Sprinting on a hill forces good mechanics (landing on ball of foot rather than heel striking).
None of the above says that changing directions isn't important, that technique with the ball isn't important (or the most important), that tactics don't matter, etc.
And regarding what kind of coaches most need to know the science of improving sprinting speed- maybe it's the coaches that recruit players based on technical and tactical rather than speed- not the "kickball" coaches that recruit players that are gifted with speed already.

To summarize:
OP asks for help with dd's running form.
We have one vote for Forest Gump, one vote for Ronaldo, one vote for an ex-Cowboys player, and two votes for hill sprints. What else do we have? This is getting fun LOL.

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Post by Guest on 12/7/2015, 9:02 pm

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Post by rzrFC on 14/7/2015, 10:05 am

Kyle Meadows may be overkill for your needs; but is world class.

http://highfivefitness.net/kyle-meadows/

http://dallassidekicks.net/sidekicks-team-up-with-world-class-trainer-for-upcoming-season/

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 10:23 am

LaLiga06 wrote:There is a difference in sprinting on a track and sprinting on a soccer field if you have a ball at your feet.

Point of reference.

https://youtu.be/hZqEj-Qyg6U

I've seen this video cited many times and I HATE it. The sprinter is cutting in running shoes and CR7 is in cleats. It proves nothing.

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 10:31 am

Sho'nuff wrote:
LaLiga06 wrote:There is a difference in sprinting on a track and sprinting on a soccer field if you have a ball at your feet.

Point of reference.

https://youtu.be/hZqEj-Qyg6U

I've seen this video cited many times and I HATE it.  The sprinter is cutting in running shoes and CR7 is in cleats.  It proves nothing.

so putting cleats on the sprinter instantly makes him Ronaldo on the pitch? Would love to hear the explanation on this?

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 10:41 am

LaLiga06 wrote:
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LaLiga06 wrote:There is a difference in sprinting on a track and sprinting on a soccer field if you have a ball at your feet.

Point of reference.

https://youtu.be/hZqEj-Qyg6U

I've seen this video cited many times and I HATE it.  The sprinter is cutting in running shoes and CR7 is in cleats.  It proves nothing.

so putting cleats on the sprinter instantly makes him Ronaldo on the pitch?  Would love to hear the explanation on this?

No, it's difficult to cut on turf in running shoes. Why is this hard to see? It's just a BS CR7 propaganda video.

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 10:43 am

So you teach your DD to sprint with a ball at her feet just as if she was sprinting down a track?

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 10:45 am

and please explain the propaganda when they explain the sprinter is faster than Ronaldo in the dead on sprint because of form... Ronaldo is running as he would on a pitch, ready for change of direction, recieve a ball, come up on a ball at speed and take the proper first touch.... his stride is shorter for a reason... form required for the task at hand.

There is speed and then there is speed with a ball or even just speed to a ball and being able to recieve, attack, defend, change direction....

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 11:12 am

LaLiga06 wrote:and please explain the propaganda when they explain the sprinter is faster than Ronaldo in the dead on sprint because of form... Ronaldo is running as he would on a pitch, ready for change of direction, recieve a ball, come up on a ball at speed and take the proper first touch.... his stride is shorter for a reason... form required for the task at hand.

There is speed and then there is speed with a ball or even just speed to a ball and being able to recieve, attack, defend, change direction....

I'm sorry that your DD moves like molasses. Evil or Very Mad

The OP asked about SPINTING FORM. If you have a useful recommendation, please do share it.

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 11:14 am

Sho'nuff wrote:
LaLiga06 wrote:and please explain the propaganda when they explain the sprinter is faster than Ronaldo in the dead on sprint because of form... Ronaldo is running as he would on a pitch, ready for change of direction, recieve a ball, come up on a ball at speed and take the proper first touch.... his stride is shorter for a reason... form required for the task at hand.

There is speed and then there is speed with a ball or even just speed to a ball and being able to recieve, attack, defend, change direction....

I'm sorry that your DD moves like molasses.   Evil or Very Mad

The OP asked about SPINTING FORM.  If you have a useful recommendation, please do share it.

you like to take shots at little girls... explains alot.

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 11:16 am

LaLiga06 wrote:
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LaLiga06 wrote:and please explain the propaganda when they explain the sprinter is faster than Ronaldo in the dead on sprint because of form... Ronaldo is running as he would on a pitch, ready for change of direction, recieve a ball, come up on a ball at speed and take the proper first touch.... his stride is shorter for a reason... form required for the task at hand.

There is speed and then there is speed with a ball or even just speed to a ball and being able to recieve, attack, defend, change direction....

I'm sorry that your DD moves like molasses.   Evil or Very Mad

The OP asked about SPINTING FORM.  If you have a useful recommendation, please do share it.

you like to take shots at little girls... explains alot.  

That shot was at you.

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Post by Guest on 14/7/2015, 11:17 am

Sho'nuff wrote:
LaLiga06 wrote:and please explain the propaganda when they explain the sprinter is faster than Ronaldo in the dead on sprint because of form... Ronaldo is running as he would on a pitch, ready for change of direction, recieve a ball, come up on a ball at speed and take the proper first touch.... his stride is shorter for a reason... form required for the task at hand.

There is speed and then there is speed with a ball or even just speed to a ball and being able to recieve, attack, defend, change direction....

I'm sorry that your DD moves like molasses.   Evil or Very Mad

The OP asked about SPINTING FORM.  If you have a useful recommendation, please do share it.

The OP is also on a soccer forum...

I think you are on the wrong forum.

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