North Texas Soccer Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Log in

I forgot my password

Be An Athletic Supporter!
Donate and get this nifty tag!

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Pixel
Statistics
We have 15368 registered users
The newest registered user is Jtkmd1

Our users have posted a total of 204650 messages in 31542 subjects

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Big Ern 25/05/18, 12:17 am

Sorry for my apparent confusion Blues Fan (and for not being able to figure out how to 'quote' from the mobile version of this forum) -

To be honest, I wasn't aware that there would be an '06 ECNL team at FCD next year ... In fact I was told that there wouldn't be. If so, then I'd assume that, as I mentioned earlier regarding the '05+, the ECNL team would be #2.

Big Ern
TxSoccer Addict
TxSoccer Addict

Posts : 1207
Join date : 2014-09-02

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Big Ern 25/05/18, 12:17 am

Sorry for my apparent confusion Blues Fan (and for not being able to figure out how to 'quote' from the mobile version of this forum) -

To be honest, I wasn't aware that there would be an '06 ECNL team at FCD next year ... In fact I was told that there wouldn't be. If so, then I'd assume that, as I mentioned earlier regarding the '05+, the ECNL team would be #2.

Big Ern
TxSoccer Addict
TxSoccer Addict

Posts : 1207
Points : 4265
Join date : 2014-09-02

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Blues Fan 25/05/18, 07:00 am

I believe you are correct, the 06 ECNL team will be #2 for now.
Blues Fan
Blues Fan
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 160
Points : 3523
Join date : 2013-09-16

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by SickofStupidity 25/05/18, 07:24 am

KeeperCommander wrote:You know LH does have a lost art going for it. You have to qualify to get in. Instead of creating a league that you are just in.

Rolling Eyes

sure you do

and you have to bring that TEAM to play in order to keep your bye, be promoted or relegated

and no one is "just in" from a club bye give up by another team

SickofStupidity
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 934
Points : 4064
Join date : 2014-06-30

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Zizou 25/05/18, 07:43 am

Even back in the day of promotion and relegation by LHGCL the league was still dominated by the larger clubs. 75%+ through all divisions.

Zizou
TxSoccer Spammer
TxSoccer Spammer

Posts : 2433
Points : 5845
Join date : 2013-11-09

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Jugglemaster 01/06/18, 12:46 am

Ecnl2 not looking good. How many teams In that league? How many games? Will they practice with ECNL?

Jugglemaster
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 105
Points : 1996
Join date : 2017-09-26

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Medicine Man 01/06/18, 07:42 am

Do the math how many teams X $ = ?

__________________________________________________
Pay to play isn't picky if you have cash money! There's always more spots to fill in the ponzi scheme. The layers keep expanding and the facts get skewed.

Watch "Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax (Laser Version)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/rCp2h5jslKY
Medicine Man
Medicine Man
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 936
Points : 2882
Join date : 2017-09-29
Location : Purgatory

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by smugrr 06/06/18, 05:17 pm

For a newbie, could someone please chart out the various youth select"national" leagues, who sanctions, what age groups? I am lost in an alphabet soup of initials.
Also, structurally, does the Federation control all of this? Or could but choose not to? Does US Club Soccer (whatever that is) ultimately answer to the Federation? Does US Youth Soccer sanction separately from the Federation?

smugrr
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 357
Points : 2584
Join date : 2017-05-10

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Foxysoccermom 06/06/18, 10:59 pm

The Gambino family oversees the leagues and the bonannos run the local racket.
Foxysoccermom
Foxysoccermom
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 734
Points : 2919
Join date : 2017-01-30

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Guest 07/06/18, 11:24 am

Zizou wrote:Even back in the day of promotion and relegation by LHGCL the league was still dominated by the larger clubs. 75%+ through all divisions.

LH is not 75% + larger clubs and NEVER has been. Look it up.




Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by DT03GWhiteNPL 07/06/18, 12:00 pm

smugrr wrote:For a newbie, could someone please chart out the various youth select"national" leagues, who sanctions, what age groups? I am lost in an alphabet soup of initials.
Also, structurally, does the Federation control all of this? Or could but choose not to? Does US Club Soccer (whatever that is) ultimately answer to the Federation? Does US Youth Soccer sanction separately from the Federation?

National League Affiliations:
USGDA - US Soccer
USYS
USCS
AYSO
https://www.ussoccer.com/about/affiliates/youth-council

USYS:
FDL (Not DA Santioned) - Frontier Development League (is more regional than national or local) - developed by several club associations to bring elite play to those that are not currently on a DA team while allowing the basic ECNL structure.
FCNL (fka SRPL) - Frontier Conference National League (is regional but feeds into the National Championship) - top LHGCL teams are invited to play in this league above and beyond just being LH.

USCS:
ECNL - used to be the top recruiting tool
ECNL2 (Not ECNL Sanctioned) - same as FDL, created, like Christmas was to offset the Pagan holidays, to compete with FDL. Was created by clubs to offer a second level of competition alongside ECNL since TCL didn't take off.
ENPL (this I think is the new boys track for ECNL, not sure on that one though but worth mentioning)
NPL - National Premier League which has a track to regionals and nationals.

Local Leagues:
Lake Highlands Girls Classic League - teams can compete in State Cup for a chance at Regionals and Nationals.
Arlington Premier Invitational League
Plano Premier League

So this is just the tip of the iceberg - these leagues are so incestuous in the way they cross pollinate while trying to grab the best players for their leagues. Would love to see this cleaned up somehow and get back to simplicity with one track to play college and beyond instead of this spiderweb of leagues.
DT03GWhiteNPL
DT03GWhiteNPL
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 192
Points : 3161
Join date : 2014-10-15
Location : NTX

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Guest 07/06/18, 12:48 pm

OLJW wrote:
Zizou wrote:Even back in the day of promotion and relegation by LHGCL the league was still dominated by the larger clubs. 75%+ through all divisions.

LH is not 75% + larger clubs and NEVER has been. Look it up.


I remember Gophers posting one of his ridiculously detailed, but accurate analysis of this a few years back. Did some digging and found the thread: https://www.txsoccer.net/t31477p50-composite-shapeshifter

OLJW is correct as it refers to all divisions of LHGCL. The ECNL/DA clubs were pretty steady up through 2016 at between 50-60% of all LHGCL teams.

Zizou is correct if you look at LHGCL D1 only. Prior to ECNL, LHGCL D1 was 75-80% ECNL/DA clubs. Dropped to ~2/3 ECNL/DA after ECNL started.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by 5050Ball 07/06/18, 12:54 pm

And D1 will be approaching 80% DA/ECNL clubs next year.
5050Ball
5050Ball
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 247
Points : 2985
Join date : 2015-06-19

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Medicine Man 07/06/18, 12:54 pm

It's hard to put your finger on things now.

__________________________________________________
Pay to play isn't picky if you have cash money! There's always more spots to fill in the ponzi scheme. The layers keep expanding and the facts get skewed.

Watch "Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax (Laser Version)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/rCp2h5jslKY
Medicine Man
Medicine Man
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 936
Points : 2882
Join date : 2017-09-29
Location : Purgatory

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Big Ern 07/06/18, 06:47 pm

Holly Hunter wrote:
smugrr wrote:For a newbie, could someone please chart out the various youth select"national" leagues, who sanctions, what age groups? I am lost in an alphabet soup of initials.
Also, structurally, does the Federation control all of this? Or could but choose not to? Does US Club Soccer (whatever that is) ultimately answer to the Federation? Does US Youth Soccer sanction separately from the Federation?

National League Affiliations:
USGDA - US Soccer
USYS
USCS
AYSO
https://www.ussoccer.com/about/affiliates/youth-council

USYS:
FDL (Not DA Santioned) - Frontier Development League (is more regional than national or local) - developed by several club associations to bring elite play to those that are not currently on a DA team while allowing the basic ECNL structure.
FCNL (fka SRPL) - Frontier Conference National League (is regional but feeds into the National Championship) - top LHGCL teams are invited to play in this league above and beyond just being LH.

USCS:
ECNL - used to be the top recruiting tool
ECNL2 (Not ECNL Sanctioned) - same as FDL, created, like Christmas was to offset the Pagan holidays, to compete with FDL.  Was created by clubs to offer a second level of competition alongside ECNL since TCL didn't take off.
ENPL (this I think is the new boys track for ECNL, not sure on that one though but worth mentioning)
NPL - National Premier League which has a track to regionals and nationals.

Local Leagues:
Lake Highlands Girls Classic League - teams can compete in State Cup for a chance at Regionals and Nationals.
Arlington Premier Invitational League
Plano Premier League

So this is just the tip of the iceberg - these leagues are so incestuous in the way they cross pollinate while trying to grab the best players for their leagues.  Would love to see this cleaned up somehow and get back to simplicity with one track to play college and beyond instead of this spiderweb of leagues.

Tremendous analysis HHunter and agreed for the most part --  

One thing to add to FDL ... Because it is USYS governed those teams are also eligible for State Cup, and the winner of the league has an automatic bid to USYS Regionals next year.

Big Ern
TxSoccer Addict
TxSoccer Addict

Posts : 1207
Points : 4265
Join date : 2014-09-02

Back to top Go down

Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded? - Page 3 Empty Re: Is ECNL 2 just TCL re-branded?

Post by Foxysoccermom 07/06/18, 09:05 pm

Big Ern wrote:
Holly Hunter wrote:
smugrr wrote:For a newbie, could someone please chart out the various youth select"national" leagues, who sanctions, what age groups? I am lost in an alphabet soup of initials.
Also, structurally, does the Federation control all of this? Or could but choose not to? Does US Club Soccer (whatever that is) ultimately answer to the Federation? Does US Youth Soccer sanction separately from the Federation?

National League Affiliations:
USGDA - US Soccer
USYS
USCS
AYSO
https://www.ussoccer.com/about/affiliates/youth-council

USYS:
FDL (Not DA Santioned) - Frontier Development League (is more regional than national or local) - developed by several club associations to bring elite play to those that are not currently on a DA team while allowing the basic ECNL structure.
FCNL (fka SRPL) - Frontier Conference National League (is regional but feeds into the National Championship) - top LHGCL teams are invited to play in this league above and beyond just being LH.

USCS:
ECNL - used to be the top recruiting tool
ECNL2 (Not ECNL Sanctioned) - same as FDL, created, like Christmas was to offset the Pagan holidays, to compete with FDL.  Was created by clubs to offer a second level of competition alongside ECNL since TCL didn't take off.
ENPL (this I think is the new boys track for ECNL, not sure on that one though but worth mentioning)
NPL - National Premier League which has a track to regionals and nationals.

Local Leagues:
Lake Highlands Girls Classic League - teams can compete in State Cup for a chance at Regionals and Nationals.
Arlington Premier Invitational League
Plano Premier League

So this is just the tip of the iceberg - these leagues are so incestuous in the way they cross pollinate while trying to grab the best players for their leagues.  Would love to see this cleaned up somehow and get back to simplicity with one track to play college and beyond instead of this spiderweb of leagues.

Tremendous analysis HHunter and agreed for the most part --  

One thing to add to FDL ... Because it is USYS governed those teams are also eligible for State Cup, and the winner of the league has an automatic bid to USYS Regionals next year.




BigE approved! cheers
Foxysoccermom
Foxysoccermom
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 734
Points : 2919
Join date : 2017-01-30

Back to top Go down

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum