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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by DeltaTauChi on 11/07/18, 02:15 pm

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Zizou wrote:Thee solar 03’s played in the U-18/19 final this could have given these players an opportunity to play in a ECNL National play-offs or a DA National play-offs. They could have been moved up to fill positions needed.
Are you saying three of Grado's 03s played in what U18/19 final?  Maybe 03 ECNL players?  

No.  What he is saying, is that 3 of Solar's '03 super-studs were moved up from U15 or U16/U17 DA to play in the U18/U19 DA playoffs.

That potentially left openings on the U15 or U16/U17 Solar DA squads.  He is suggesting that those openings may have been filled by Grado players, OR, they were filled by Solar ECNL players, which then would have opened up spots on the Solar ECNL roster and those spots may have been backfilled by Grado players.

DA Playoffs, ECNL Playoffs, and USYSA Southern Regionals were all taking place between June 21-June 29 in three different states (California, Washington, and North Carolina).  



So they won nothing moving girls around? Is that right?  why not leave them where they were?

Yeah.  I’m sure Solar is really upset that they played those ‘03’s up in U18/U19 and that at least 2 of them were recognized amongst the best players out there at the playoffs and are all over USSF’s radar for the YNT/WNT.  Rolling Eyes  drunken  scratch

Pretty sure those kid's parents and the UT head coach were just as livid that those kids didn't play down on U15 to win a Natty instead of playing against some of the best U18/U19 players in the country.


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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by Foxysoccermom on 11/07/18, 02:16 pm

Zizou wrote:USSF encourages clubs to play players that have been identified for the next level up to the highest level of competition.


Sounds like those kids definitely played in the ECNL playoffs then.
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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by Zizou on 11/07/18, 02:20 pm

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Zizou wrote:USSF encourages clubs to play players that have been identified for the next level up to the highest level of competition.


Sounds like those kids definitely played in the ECNL playoffs then.

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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by NoSpinZone on 11/07/18, 02:35 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
mixitup wrote:
Zizou wrote:Thee solar 03’s played in the U-18/19 final this could have given these players an opportunity to play in a ECNL National play-offs or a DA National play-offs. They could have been moved up to fill positions needed.
Are you saying three of Grado's 03s played in what U18/19 final?  Maybe 03 ECNL players?  

No.  What he is saying, is that 3 of Solar's '03 super-studs were moved up from U15 or U16/U17 DA to play in the U18/U19 DA playoffs.

That potentially left openings on the U15 or U16/U17 Solar DA squads.  He is suggesting that those openings may have been filled by Grado players, OR, they were filled by Solar ECNL players, which then would have opened up spots on the Solar ECNL roster and those spots may have been backfilled by Grado players.

DA Playoffs, ECNL Playoffs, and USYSA Southern Regionals were all taking place between June 21-June 29 in three different states (California, Washington, and North Carolina).  



So they won nothing moving girls around? Is that right?  why not leave them where they were?

Yeah.  I’m sure Solar is really upset that they played those ‘03’s up in U18/U19 and that at least 2 of them were recognized amongst the best players out there at the playoffs and are all over USSF’s radar for the YNT/WNT.  Rolling Eyes  drunken  scratch

Pretty sure those kid's parents and the UT head coach were just as livid that those kids didn't play down on U15 to win a Natty instead of playing against some of the best U18/U19 players in the country.

Sure those 2 players great PR, but they were already doing/getting that on the YNT team. It's great for those 2, no argument here. UT coach, same, prob very happy.

Winning title for club and 16 others on team, didnt happen. So unless you are one of those 2, remember, in any given year Solar will plunder the team moving players up, so chances of winning titlesare nill. Something to remember if you are in the 'other 16' category.

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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by Zizou on 11/07/18, 02:48 pm

Moving players up in competition and level seems like it gives other players the same opportunities. If your DD has played a very successful season and in the coaches evaluation has earned a promotion within a very successful club. You would not be happy for those players? Grado has to be loving it! His players are getting noticed.

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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by DeltaTauChi on 11/07/18, 02:59 pm

NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
mixitup wrote:
Zizou wrote:Thee solar 03’s played in the U-18/19 final this could have given these players an opportunity to play in a ECNL National play-offs or a DA National play-offs. They could have been moved up to fill positions needed.
Are you saying three of Grado's 03s played in what U18/19 final?  Maybe 03 ECNL players?  

No.  What he is saying, is that 3 of Solar's '03 super-studs were moved up from U15 or U16/U17 DA to play in the U18/U19 DA playoffs.

That potentially left openings on the U15 or U16/U17 Solar DA squads.  He is suggesting that those openings may have been filled by Grado players, OR, they were filled by Solar ECNL players, which then would have opened up spots on the Solar ECNL roster and those spots may have been backfilled by Grado players.

DA Playoffs, ECNL Playoffs, and USYSA Southern Regionals were all taking place between June 21-June 29 in three different states (California, Washington, and North Carolina).  



So they won nothing moving girls around? Is that right?  why not leave them where they were?

Yeah.  I’m sure Solar is really upset that they played those ‘03’s up in U18/U19 and that at least 2 of them were recognized amongst the best players out there at the playoffs and are all over USSF’s radar for the YNT/WNT.  Rolling Eyes  drunken  scratch

Pretty sure those kid's parents and the UT head coach were just as livid that those kids didn't play down on U15 to win a Natty instead of playing against some of the best U18/U19 players in the country.

Sure those 2 players great PR, but they were already doing/getting that on the YNT team.  It's great for those 2, no argument here.  UT coach, same, prob very happy.  

Winning title for club and 16 others on team, didnt happen.  So unless you are one of those 2, remember,  in any given year Solar will plunder the team moving players up, so chances of winning titlesare nill.  Something to remember if you are in the 'other 16' category.

I Love This Forum!

We spend most of our time bi+c#ing about how the clubs are all about winning at the expense of development. Then a situation pops up where maybe the club made a move to benefit the development of some of it's players, and now we bi+c# because that move may have prevented a team(s) from winning.

Brilliant!

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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by NoSpinZone on 11/07/18, 03:43 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
mixitup wrote:
Are you saying three of Grado's 03s played in what U18/19 final?  Maybe 03 ECNL players?  

No.  What he is saying, is that 3 of Solar's '03 super-studs were moved up from U15 or U16/U17 DA to play in the U18/U19 DA playoffs.

That potentially left openings on the U15 or U16/U17 Solar DA squads.  He is suggesting that those openings may have been filled by Grado players, OR, they were filled by Solar ECNL players, which then would have opened up spots on the Solar ECNL roster and those spots may have been backfilled by Grado players.

DA Playoffs, ECNL Playoffs, and USYSA Southern Regionals were all taking place between June 21-June 29 in three different states (California, Washington, and North Carolina).  



So they won nothing moving girls around? Is that right?  why not leave them where they were?

Yeah.  I’m sure Solar is really upset that they played those ‘03’s up in U18/U19 and that at least 2 of them were recognized amongst the best players out there at the playoffs and are all over USSF’s radar for the YNT/WNT.  Rolling Eyes  drunken  scratch

Pretty sure those kid's parents and the UT head coach were just as livid that those kids didn't play down on U15 to win a Natty instead of playing against some of the best U18/U19 players in the country.

Sure those 2 players great PR, but they were already doing/getting that on the YNT team.  It's great for those 2, no argument here.  UT coach, same, prob very happy.  

Winning title for club and 16 others on team, didnt happen.  So unless you are one of those 2, remember,  in any given year Solar will plunder the team moving players up, so chances of winning titlesare nill.  Something to remember if you are in the 'other 16' category.

I Love This Forum!

We spend most of our time bi+c#ing about how the clubs are all about winning at the expense of development.  Then a situation pops up where maybe the club made a move to benefit the development of some of it's players, and now we bi+c# because that move may have prevented a team(s) from winning.

Brilliant!

Agree... (There is always a contrarian position(pot) to take(stir) though.)  Wink


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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by brazos on 11/07/18, 04:34 pm

So help me understand this - the players in question played on Solar's DA squad for the 2017/2018 season but then "guest" played for the Grado NTX State Cup team? They played down for development or did they not play that event?

Then you have another player from Solar DA 2017/2018 not play on the LPE State Cup roster but was added for the Southern Regional roster?


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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by Zizou on 11/07/18, 04:46 pm

Lol, what?

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Re: North Texas State Cup Champions

Post by mixitup on 12/07/18, 10:56 am

DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
mixitup wrote:
Are you saying three of Grado's 03s played in what U18/19 final?  Maybe 03 ECNL players?  

No.  What he is saying, is that 3 of Solar's '03 super-studs were moved up from U15 or U16/U17 DA to play in the U18/U19 DA playoffs.

That potentially left openings on the U15 or U16/U17 Solar DA squads.  He is suggesting that those openings may have been filled by Grado players, OR, they were filled by Solar ECNL players, which then would have opened up spots on the Solar ECNL roster and those spots may have been backfilled by Grado players.

DA Playoffs, ECNL Playoffs, and USYSA Southern Regionals were all taking place between June 21-June 29 in three different states (California, Washington, and North Carolina).  



So they won nothing moving girls around? Is that right?  why not leave them where they were?

Yeah.  I’m sure Solar is really upset that they played those ‘03’s up in U18/U19 and that at least 2 of them were recognized amongst the best players out there at the playoffs and are all over USSF’s radar for the YNT/WNT.  Rolling Eyes  drunken  scratch

Pretty sure those kid's parents and the UT head coach were just as livid that those kids didn't play down on U15 to win a Natty instead of playing against some of the best U18/U19 players in the country.

Sure those 2 players great PR, but they were already doing/getting that on the YNT team.  It's great for those 2, no argument here.  UT coach, same, prob very happy.  

Winning title for club and 16 others on team, didnt happen.  So unless you are one of those 2, remember,  in any given year Solar will plunder the team moving players up, so chances of winning titlesare nill.  Something to remember if you are in the 'other 16' category.

I Love This Forum!

We spend most of our time bi+c#ing about how the clubs are all about winning at the expense of development.  Then a situation pops up where maybe the club made a move to benefit the development of some of it's players, and now we bi+c# because that move may have prevented a team(s) from winning.

Brilliant!
Totally agree. From what I was told Grado had four players move up to ECNL. Three stayed with the club and one left for one of the other big clubs. That is good for Grado as it shows he's developing strong players. The rest of the team...well, I'm sure there is some animosity. However, given the chance to play up I imagine most would jump on that. I think it is the right thing to do. Solar has a lot of depth and moving girls around creates opportunities at every level. These promotions are earned and the girls that get recognized should be proud of their accomplishments, not made to feel like they abandoned their old team.

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