ECNL Regional/Cross-Regional play kicks off this weekend

by socrocks 16/08/11, 01:51 pm

ECNL Regional and Cross-regional play gets started this weekend. Here’s a schedule for Texas teams this month. First team listed is home team. SOme TOUGH games right out of the box!

Anyone have times for any of the games? How about a breakdown of A/B brackets for 2011-12?

Sat 8/20
Eclipse Select vs Lonestar
FC Milwaukee vs Challenge
Sockers FC vs Solar-Chelsea SC
St Louis Gallagher vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/21
Eclipse Select vs Solar-Chelsea SC
Sockers FC vs Lonestar
St Louis Gallagher vs Challenge
FC Milwaukee vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/28
D’Feeters vs Sting
Lonestar vs Challenge
Solar-Chelsea SC vs FC Dallas - 1pm TWU #1
Dallas Texans vs TSC Hurricanes - 1pm UTD #6

by SoccerDad24 17/08/11, 09:09 am

socrocks wrote:ECNL Regional and Cross-regional play gets started this weekend. Here’s a schedule for Texas teams this month. First team listed is home team. SOme TOUGH games right out of the box!

Anyone have times for any of the games? How about a breakdown of A/B brackets for 2011-12?

Sat 8/20
Eclipse Select vs Lonestar
FC Milwaukee vs Challenge
Sockers FC vs Solar-Chelsea SC 12:00 p.m.
St Louis Gallagher vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/21
Eclipse Select vs Solar-Chelsea SC 12:00 p.m.
Sockers FC vs Lonestar
St Louis Gallagher vs Challenge
FC Milwaukee vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/28
D’Feeters vs Sting
Lonestar vs Challenge
Solar-Chelsea SC vs FC Dallas - 1pm TWU #1
Dallas Texans vs TSC Hurricanes - 1pm UTD #6

by onlyforfun 17/08/11, 10:42 am

Where are the games being played?

by Offsidepacman 17/08/11, 11:15 am

Eclipse and Sockers are hosting. (IL)

by Itsme 17/08/11, 11:48 am

Can someone post a link to the schedules? Thanks!

by Gunners 17/08/11, 11:54 am

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/schedules/2011-2012/37603058.html

Not sure they are final/complete, though.

by Telstar 17/08/11, 12:42 pm

SoccerDad24 wrote:
socrocks wrote:ECNL Regional and Cross-regional play gets started this weekend. Here’s a schedule for Texas teams this month. First team listed is home team. SOme TOUGH games right out of the box!

Anyone have times for any of the games? How about a breakdown of A/B brackets for 2011-12?

Sat 8/20
Eclipse Select vs Lonestar 12:00 p.m..
FC Milwaukee vs Challenge
Sockers FC vs Solar-Chelsea SC 12:00 p.m.
St Louis Gallagher vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/21
Eclipse Select vs Solar-Chelsea SC 12:00 p.m.
Sockers FC vs Lonestar 10:00 a.m.
St Louis Gallagher vs Challenge
FC Milwaukee vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/28
D’Feeters vs Sting
Lonestar vs Challenge
Solar-Chelsea SC vs FC Dallas - 1pm TWU #1
Dallas Texans vs TSC Hurricanes - 1pm UTD #6

by Itsme 18/08/11, 11:49 am

Gunners wrote:http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/schedules/2011-2012/37603058.html

Not sure they are final/complete, though.

Thanks!

by Gunners 22/08/11, 09:36 am

socrocks wrote:ECNL Regional and Cross-regional play gets started this weekend. Here’s a schedule for Texas teams this month. First team listed is home team. SOme TOUGH games right out of the box!

Anyone have times for any of the games? How about a breakdown of A/B brackets for 2011-12?

Sat 8/20
Eclipse Select vs Lonestar
FC Milwaukee vs Challenge
Sockers FC vs Solar-Chelsea SC
St Louis Gallagher vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/21
Eclipse Select vs Solar-Chelsea SC
Sockers FC vs Lonestar
St Louis Gallagher vs Challenge
FC Milwaukee vs FC Dallas

Sun 8/28
D’Feeters vs Sting
Lonestar vs Challenge
Solar-Chelsea SC vs FC Dallas - 1pm TWU #1
Dallas Texans vs TSC Hurricanes - 1pm UTD #6

Any scores from the weekend?

by socrocks 22/08/11, 09:42 am

Not 100% certain, but heard....
FC Dallas over St Louis 3-1 on Sat
Solar tied Sockers on Sat and lost to Eclipse 3-2 on Sun
Lonestar over Eclipse 4-0, Sockers over Lonestar 2-1

by socrocks 22/08/11, 09:46 am

Beat the Heat results....
Looks like Tx Spirit had a nice weekend winning the event...including 2-0 win over D1 Sting (formerly Royal).

by zygor 22/08/11, 09:51 am

Eclipse Select - 0
Lonestar - 4

Sockers FC - 2
Lonestar - 1

by 96Guru 22/08/11, 10:08 am

zygor wrote:Eclipse Select - 0
Lonestar - 4

Sockers FC - 2
Lonestar - 1

Wow. Sockers is new to ECNL this year. Interesting.

by Gunners 22/08/11, 02:27 pm

ECNL Flights

by mailman 22/08/11, 06:41 pm

FC Dallas 3-1 over FC Milwaukee

by mailman 22/08/11, 06:46 pm

got a question for anyone who might know. Did all the new Clubs that joined ECNL this year get placed in A bracket?

by justbecause 22/08/11, 06:51 pm

mailman wrote:got a question for anyone who might know. Did all the new Clubs that joined ECNL this year get placed in A bracket?

I dont think so Mailman. See below from the ECNL website.

ECNL National Championship Standings & the ECNL National Champions (U15 - U18 A-Flight):

In 2011-2012, the ECNL National Champion will be determined based on position in the ECNL National Championship Standings – A-Flight. All games played by an ECNL A-Flight team against other teams in the ECNL A-Flight will be included in the ECNL National Championship Standings. This includes conference games, cross-conference games, and games at national events. At the end of the regular season, the top 16 teams in the ECNL National Championship Standings – A-Flight will qualify for the National Championship Group at the ECNL National Championships, where they will play four games to determine the ECNL National Champion: a round of 16 game, a quarter-final, a semi-final, and a championship game.

ECNL National Championship Standings & the B-Flight ECNL Champions (U15 - U18 B-Flight):

In 2011-2012, the ECNL Challenge B-Flight will be divided into 2 divisions of 18 teams. All games played by a B-Flight team against other teams in the B-Flight will be included in the ECNL National Standings – B-Flight. This includes conference games, cross-conference games, and games at national events. At the end of the regular season, the top 2 teams in each division of the B-Flight will be placed into the B-Flight Championship Group at the ECNL National Championships, where they will play a semi-final and final to determine the B-Flight ECNL Champion. These 4 teams will all be automatically promoted to the A-Flight for the 2012-2013 season. In addition, the third and fourth place team in each division will be placed in a Promotion and Relegation Play-Off Group along with the 25th and 26thplace team in the A-Flight for one final spot in the A-Flight in 2012-2013.

by Elk 22/08/11, 10:45 pm

This might help.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/docs/2011-12_ECNL%20National%20Event%20Flights_Demosphere_Website.pdf

by weenie 23/08/11, 04:35 pm

I think the question was misunderstood. In the past the new clubs (not the youngest age group team) to ECNL where placed in the B level flight because there was no prior club history in ECNL but this year with the addition of many new clubs, there were many, if not all, placed in the A level flight even though there was no history in the ECNL.

by Elk 23/08/11, 08:40 pm

weenie wrote:I think the question was misunderstood. In the past the new clubs (not the youngest age group team) to ECNL where placed in the B level flight because there was no prior club history in ECNL but this year with the addition of many new clubs, there were many, if not all, placed in the A level flight even though there was no history in the ECNL.

I agree and disagree. This year you had the addition of some of the National league clubs (I think thats right)I was told that all new clubs and teams were looked at at an individual basis before their placement. There has been a history in the past of ECNL clubs moving up or down depending on their standing with the overall club ranking being a factor in the new teams entering ECNL and where they would be placed.

Going forward teams will move up or down depending on their year end results and standings and new teams entering will do so based upon their overall club ranking.

by weenie 24/08/11, 09:26 am

Elk wrote:
weenie wrote:I think the question was misunderstood. In the past the new clubs (not the youngest age group team) to ECNL where placed in the B level flight because there was no prior club history in ECNL but this year with the addition of many new clubs, there were many, if not all, placed in the A level flight even though there was no history in the ECNL.

I agree and disagree. This year you had the addition of some of the National league clubs (I think thats right)I was told that all new clubs and teams were looked at at an individual basis before their placement. There has been a history in the past of ECNL clubs moving up or down depending on their standing with the overall club ranking being a factor in the new teams entering ECNL and where they would be placed.

Going forward teams will move up or down depending on their year end results and standings and new teams entering will do so based upon their overall club ranking.

I agree with what you said. I was just clarifying mailman's post.

by 2wheels 24/08/11, 10:38 am

Looks like all Texan teams were put in A flight and not sure that all of them should. The 96 team being one that might have been better served in B flight. I'm sure the koolaid drinkers will come out against me ont this but it's just my opinion. I smell Hassan's influence.

by Gunners 24/08/11, 10:46 am

2wheels wrote:Looks like all Texan teams were put in A flight and not sure that all of them should. The 96 team being one that might have been better served in B flight. I'm sure the koolaid drinkers will come out against me ont this but it's just my opinion. I smell Hassan's influence.

Definitely a debatable topic. I think it's safe to say that their placement at #30 on the list of the A flight shows how close they were to being put in the B flight.

There are no guarantees after this year, though, so if they would be "better served" in the B flight then that's where they will be, Texans influence be damned.

by socrocks 25/08/11, 04:48 pm

I think all 5 of our (96) NTX teams have a legitimate argument to be in A Bracket. But there are few still sitting in B Bracket that I'm sure feel the same. Not sure I like ECNL's flim-flam methodology for filling their brackets every year.

If I remember correctly....for the 95s, upon entry to the league (when they were u15 and brackets were being assigned for their 1st year in the league), there was an attempt made to qualify each team and try to assign them to the proper bracket (A or B). This was done by a combination of coaches/DOCs input and results of play. IMO, this is the best way to do it....it's the best formula for getting right in each age group. Then....promotion/relegation sorts things out over the next year, or so.

However when our group (96s) entered the league, teams were assigned their bracket based on the CLUB's overall performance/ranking in the older age groups. WTF? Absolutely ridiculous. So there were some very undeserving teams in the A Bracket, meanwhile....there were SEVERAL very good teams sent to the B Bracket. And why? Because their older teams didn't do as well. Illogical to me, and something they need to fix.

As far as how you integrate a whole set of new teams/clubs into the mix due to league expansion...well, ya got me. There were some very good and deserving teams that were promoted into the A Bracket this year. But there are still a few, including Solar, Real So Cal and Neusport who are also very solid teams that probably aren't too thrilled with being leap-frogged by Texans
(or others)...who didn't enter the league at it's inception and didn't really earn their way in to the A Bracket. (For the record...I think Texans shoulda/woulda been in A bracket if seeded based on their merits and entering the league last year). Just not sure how to make it fair to everyone at this juncture.

by stillyuk 25/08/11, 05:01 pm

Not sure the numeric equivalent by the team name is ranking, otherwise, why would the 95 Texas be ranked after a bunch of teams that would struggle against our 96s? And for that matter, TSC Hurricanes are 27th.

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